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Message 14582 - Posted: 25 Apr 2006, 11:59:06 UTC

If I set my computer to power down my hard drive, BOINC will still run won't it?
Or how does that work? (gotta save every dime when it comes to electricity) :)
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Message 14583 - Posted: 25 Apr 2006, 12:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 14582.  

If I set my computer to power down my hard drive, BOINC will still run won't it?
Or how does that work? (gotta save every dime when it comes to electricity) :)


You can, in your general options, set a "write to disk at most every".

This will allow your disk to spindown, if you've got enough memory.
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Message 14588 - Posted: 25 Apr 2006, 14:43:34 UTC

I've got 1.2GB and even when I moved my entire BOINC directory to a network drive, and set the preference to write only every half hour, and my disk never spins down. In another post someone said if it's your only drive then it won't, because Windows has too many other background tasks popping in and out. And in fact I confirm in the task manager, when I add the PF Delta column (go in to the View menu option to add it), and other tasks won't leave the drive alone.

So, it seems the power setting is really for when you have a second drive. And the disk being active has little to do with BOINC.

To answer your question, yes everything on a computer runs in the memory and the CPU. But Windows uses the hard drive to hold anything that it can't fit in memory at the moment. This takes time to write things to the disk and then bring back other information when a task that was in progress several minutes ago pops in to do something more. This is why it often helps your PC run faster if you have more memory. Because it can retain more of what it is working on, without using the disk as often.
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Message 14608 - Posted: 25 Apr 2006, 18:43:19 UTC

I believe if you power down the hard drive the WU WILL FAIL....
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Message 14613 - Posted: 25 Apr 2006, 19:15:31 UTC

If you power down your computer, then the current model will be lost.

If your disk powers down due to being idle, it will automatically power up again when an application needs it for anything.
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Message 14657 - Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 11:08:48 UTC

Thnaks guys that is what I thought.

But now I have a bigger problem, I can't connect to the server and I haven't done any work in over 24 hours :(
I didn't change any settings...
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Message 14661 - Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 12:16:26 UTC - in response to Message 14657.  

I can't connect to the server

I just got another WU as a test and it went fine.
Did you get any msgs on the messages tab?

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Message 14681 - Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 15:59:58 UTC - in response to Message 14657.  

Thnaks guys that is what I thought.

But now I have a bigger problem, I can't connect to the server and I haven't done any work in over 24 hours :(
I didn't change any settings...


Are you running more than one project on your system? If so it is possible that the system has decided to run the other projects for a while. This can happen if you have been running one project for a while and the system determines that the settings you have for sharing your computer between projects dictate that it should work on one project in particular to catch up on time it owes to that project.

When this happens your system may not connect to Rosetta to get new work if your computer Owes time to another project. If that is what is happening it should work out by itself. If not then you may want to shutdown your computer and restart it to see if the problems clears.

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Message 14743 - Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 11:15:40 UTC
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I'm not getting anything. No messages, no jobs, (the ones that were in the cue are gone) nothing but can't connect to server. Which looks to me like it's saying BOINC can't connect to my computer. Localhost. I had this problem one other time but I can't remember if it just connected or I reinstalled it.

It did freeze before I rebooted and then it could not connect, or was just stuck on the work unit. It was sitting for about 61 hours on one unit at 1.03%.
I rebooted and it went to 1.04% and sat, I did a couple things and rebooted and BOINC never connected again. It's almost as though the program can't find the w.u.'s

Rosetta is all that's running here.

I've rebooted a few times. Nothing.

Here's my log since the last connection 4 days ago.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
2006-04-22 16:12:00 [rosetta@home] Reason: To fetch work
2006-04-22 16:12:00 [rosetta@home] Requesting 90 seconds of new work, and reporting 1 results
2006-04-22 16:12:05 [rosetta@home] Scheduler request to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi succeeded
2006-04-22 16:12:07 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: files downloaded
2006-04-22 16:43:17 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: process exited
2006-04-22 16:43:17 [rosetta@home] Computation for result PROD_ABINITIO_FAST_1tul__447_36750_0 finished
2006-04-22 16:43:17 [rosetta@home] Starting result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2 using rosetta version 501
2006-04-22 16:43:19 [rosetta@home] Started upload of PROD_ABINITIO_FAST_1tul__447_36750_0_0
2006-04-22 16:43:37 [rosetta@home] Finished upload of PROD_ABINITIO_FAST_1tul__447_36750_0_0
2006-04-22 16:43:37 [rosetta@home] Throughput 34539 bytes/sec
2006-04-24 06:55:52 [---] Exit requested by user
2006-04-24 06:55:53 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: exit_tasks

To pause/resume tasks hit CTRL-C, to exit hit CTRL-BREAK
2006-04-24 06:58:56 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
2006-04-24 06:58:56 [---] libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2006-04-24 06:58:56 [---] Data directory: C:Program FilesBOINC
2006-04-24 06:58:56 [---] Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
2006-04-24 06:58:56 [---] Memory: 894.48 MB physical, 2.11 GB virtual
2006-04-24 06:58:56 [---] Disk: 182.15 GB total, 162.58 GB free
2006-04-24 06:58:57 [rosetta@home] Computer ID: 80959; location: home; project prefs: default
2006-04-24 06:58:57 [---] General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2006-02-07 09:14:04)
2006-04-24 06:58:57 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2006-04-24 06:58:58 [---] Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
2006-04-24 06:58:58 [rosetta@home] Resuming computation for result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2 using rosetta version 501
2006-04-24 12:33:39 [---] Suspending computation and network activity - running CPU benchmarks
2006-04-24 12:33:39 [rosetta@home] Pausing result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2 (removed from memory)
2006-04-24 12:33:40 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: process exited
2006-04-24 12:33:42 [---] Running CPU benchmarks
2006-04-24 12:34:41 [---] Benchmark results:
2006-04-24 12:34:41 [---] Number of CPUs: 1
2006-04-24 12:34:41 [---] 2037 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2006-04-24 12:34:41 [---] 3812 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
2006-04-24 12:34:41 [---] Finished CPU benchmarks
2006-04-24 12:34:42 [---] Resuming computation and network activity
2006-04-24 12:34:42 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: Resuming activities
2006-04-24 12:34:42 [rosetta@home] Restarting result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2 using rosetta version 501
2006-04-24 16:43:43 [rosetta@home] Sending scheduler request to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
2006-04-24 16:43:43 [rosetta@home] Reason: To report results
2006-04-24 16:43:43 [rosetta@home] Reporting 1 results
2006-04-24 16:43:48 [rosetta@home] Scheduler request to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi succeeded
2006-04-25 07:29:35 [---] Exit requested by user
2006-04-25 07:29:36 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: exit_tasks

To pause/resume tasks hit CTRL-C, to exit hit CTRL-BREAK
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] Data directory: C:Program FilesBOINC
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] Memory: 894.48 MB physical, 2.11 GB virtual
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] Disk: 182.15 GB total, 162.59 GB free
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [rosetta@home] Computer ID: 80959; location: home; project prefs: default
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2006-02-07 09:14:04)
2006-04-25 07:29:44 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2006-04-25 07:29:45 [---] Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
2006-04-25 07:29:45 [rosetta@home] Resuming computation for result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2 using rosetta version 501
2006-04-25 14:34:11 [rosetta@home] Aborting result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2: exceeded CPU time limit 245426.829268
2006-04-25 14:34:11 [rosetta@home] Unrecoverable error for result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2 (Maximum CPU time exceeded)
2006-04-25 14:34:12 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: process exited
2006-04-25 14:34:12 [rosetta@home] Computation for result HBLR_1.0_1ogw_420_4806_2 finished
2006-04-25 14:34:12 [rosetta@home] Starting result PROD_ABINITIO_7STRANDBAR_1tul__447_39773_0 using rosetta version 501
2006-04-25 14:35:12 [rosetta@home] Sending scheduler request to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
2006-04-25 14:35:12 [rosetta@home] Reason: To fetch work
2006-04-25 14:35:12 [rosetta@home] Requesting 2071 seconds of new work, and reporting 1 results
2006-04-25 14:35:17 [rosetta@home] Scheduler request to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi succeeded
2006-04-25 14:35:19 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: files downloaded

To pause/resume tasks hit CTRL-C, to exit hit CTRL-BREAK
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] Data directory: C:Program FilesBOINC
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] Memory: 894.48 MB physical, 2.11 GB virtual
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] Disk: 182.15 GB total, 162.58 GB free
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [rosetta@home] Computer ID: 80959; location: home; project prefs: default
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2006-02-07 09:14:04)
2006-04-25 14:45:08 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2006-04-25 14:45:09 [---] Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
2006-04-25 14:45:09 [rosetta@home] Resuming computation for result PROD_ABINITIO_7STRANDBAR_1tul__447_39773_0 using rosetta version 501
2006-04-25 14:51:02 [---] Exit requested by user
2006-04-25 14:51:03 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: exit_tasks

Hmm it looks like it is running... but the boinc client does not show that it is..

2006-04-25 14:45:09 [rosetta@home] Resuming computation for result PROD_ABINITIO_7STRANDBAR_1tul__447_39773_0 using rosetta version 501

What's up with this?? :(
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Message 14744 - Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 11:24:37 UTC

does it say "connected to localhost" or "disconnected" on the very bottom bar (right hand side) of the boinc manager?
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Message 14812 - Posted: 28 Apr 2006, 1:59:24 UTC - in response to Message 14744.  

does it say "connected to localhost" or "disconnected" on the very bottom bar (right hand side) of the boinc manager?

Disconnected.
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Message 14819 - Posted: 28 Apr 2006, 3:16:10 UTC

Some MS (microsoft) product is grabbing port 1043 during the boot process before boinc can get it. Port 1043 was assigned from IANA to Boinc, but MS does what they want. I suspect you've either just installed boinc or have performed a windows update reasonably recently.

Boinc has chosen to start using port 31416 instead and have been doing so since Developmental release somewhere around 5.3.?. Boinc version 5.4.6 (the latest developmental release) can be downloaded from here.

NOTE: this is developmental software, use at your own risk.

that said, it's been working fine for everyone I know, and has cured the problem you're seeing for many.

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P.S If you aren't comfortable with developmental releases, then just wait a few more days and the new "recommended" version, which is build from this version and earlier ones, should be released.


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Message 14849 - Posted: 28 Apr 2006, 10:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 14819.  

Some MS (microsoft) product is grabbing port 1043 during the boot process before boinc can get it. Port 1043 was assigned from IANA to Boinc, but MS does what they want. I suspect you've either just installed boinc or have performed a windows update reasonably recently.

Boinc has chosen to start using port 31416 instead and have been doing so since Developmental release somewhere around 5.3.?. Boinc version 5.4.6 (the latest developmental release) can be downloaded from here.

NOTE: this is developmental software, use at your own risk.

that said, it's been working fine for everyone I know, and has cured the problem you're seeing for many.

tony

P.S If you aren't comfortable with developmental releases, then just wait a few more days and the new "recommended" version, which is build from this version and earlier ones, should be released.


Wait a COUPLE days??? I can't I'm too competitive! :D

Thank you verrrry much! I'm back on the road! :D :D

(You were right about the update) MS SUX
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Message 14852 - Posted: 28 Apr 2006, 10:41:19 UTC

I test the new Boinc software as a volunteer. I've see no showstoppers reported with this version, so no need to worry (not much anyway). LOL

crunch on

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Message 14857 - Posted: 28 Apr 2006, 12:21:03 UTC - in response to Message 14582.  
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If I set my computer to power down my hard drive, BOINC will still run won't it?
Or how does that work? (gotta save every dime when it comes to electricity) :)

you will actually do more damage than good, a running disk doens't use much, but one that's starting and stopping all the time will use quite a lot (it takes a lot of power to get the platters spinning, but not much to keep them spinning)

also by having your hard drive spin up/down constantly you'll shorten it's life, and it'll fail sooner (as in break, and you'll loose any data on it)
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