To get new WUs, the PC needs 6675.72 MB.
Is the restriction really needed?

I can simultaneously run two or more WUs with 6675.72 MB RAM.

The odd conclusion is:
*) to get WUs I need 6675.72 MB RAM
*) Rosetta application runs with less than 6675.72 MB RAM

Thanks

Is the restriction really needed?

Probably not. Your conclusion is correct; the high RAM requirement seems to be a misconfiguration. Perhaps it will be corrected in the next batch of work units; try again in a couple of days’ time.

To get new WUs, the PC needs 6675.72 MB.
Is the restriction really needed?

No.
There is a problem with the configuration of many of the current Work Units, they are requesting more RAM & Disk space than they require, making it impossible for some systems to process them.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Thank you Brian Nixon and Grant (SSSF)

Got the same message at the RALPH project site on one of my PC's about 1 hour ago. Did not see any active task sent there.

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Got the same message at the RALPH project site on one of my PC's about 1 hour ago. Did not see any active task sent there.

Maybe someone is actually trying things out before they release them here?

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Grant
Darwin NT

ralph@home 4/9/2021 12:44:55 AM Message from server: Rosetta needs 6675.72 MB RAM but only 1879.68 MB is available for use.

Rosetta@home 4/9/2021 4:00:11 PM Message from server: Rosetta needs 6675.72 MB RAM but only 1879.68 MB is available for use.

This on a 2GB Nvidia Jetson Nano.

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https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2021/04/10/210410121431111496.png

with Boinc 7.16.11 (x64) . . .

To get new WUs, the PC needs 6675.72 MB.
Is the restriction really needed?

No.
There is a problem with the configuration of many of the current Work Units, they are requesting more RAM & Disk space than they require, making it impossible for some systems to process them.

Its even worse - such bad WUs block the receipt and processing of normal WUs. Every time when such a task, with incorrectly set memory requirements comes across in the queue for distribution (on the server side), the server refuses to issue ANY tasks to machine, incl. normally configured.
In recent days, my 8GB computers are often completely spent on the processing of backup projects instead of R@H.
Because cannot receive tasks from Rosetta, due to the fact that the server refuses to issue any other tasks until someone else (with a sufficiently large amounts of free RAM) picks up all these tasks with abnormal RAM request from server queue. But by this time, my machines have already managed to fill their work queue with WUs from backup projects.

I can't get any more work units either. RAM needs too high.

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Total Project RAC is falling too already (about ~30% down in last week) as this problem starts to affect many computers. Which can not get ANY R@H work for a long periods of time because of abnormal RAM requirements of SOME work in server queue.

It's very disapointing, that there is no feedback from the project to the ongoing problems and also the current science process and goals.

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It's very disappointing, that there is no feedback from the project to the ongoing problems and also the current science process and goals.

It certainly is when the problems have extended so long.
Up to a year ago we had Mod.Sense on the forums who would feed back to the Project admins with issues like this, but he was only a volunteer like the rest of us and he's been absent for 9 or 10 months.
I think what we're seeing now is how much we miss him.

I've taken it upon myself to go back over messages this month, with the help of one or two others, to see if anything can be resolved with the project admins.
Not promising any rapid resolution (I'm back at work, so my time is currently limited) but I've tried to impress on them how urgent things have become.
One small change has been noticed already - not on the Disk & RAM demands yet - but let's see how things go over the next day or two.
Fingers crossed.

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It's very disappointing, that there is no feedback from the project to the ongoing problems and also the current science process and goals.

It certainly is when the problems have extended so long.
Up to a year ago we had Mod.Sense on the forums who would feed back to the Project admins with issues like this, but he was only a volunteer like the rest of us and he's been absent for 9 or 10 months.
I think what we're seeing now is how much we miss him.

I've taken it upon myself to go back over messages this month, with the help of one or two others, to see if anything can be resolved with the project admins.
Not promising any rapid resolution (I'm back at work, so my time is currently limited) but I've tried to impress on them how urgent things have become.
One small change has been noticed already - not on the Disk & RAM demands yet - but let's see how things go over the next day or two.
Fingers crossed.

Thank you, it’s much appreciated.

The reasons you point out is why I left Rosetta. No WU's and no feedback. I'm now on WCG, which runs on a toaster.

https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2021/04/10/210410121431111496.png

with Boinc 7.16.11 (x64) . . .

Thanks for this image. Very clear.
I used it to illustrate the problems everyone is seeing.

If you begin to see new tasks, can you confirm that here?

Same goes for others.
Disk & RAM req'ts will continue to be higher than in March aiui, but not as high as shown here.
People are advised to increase Boinc's memory allocation under Boinc's Options/Computing Preference as high as you can afford for your own circumstances.
There will still be high limits, but I'm trying to see if it affects people as much as before - hopefully only if you have unusually constrained systems

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I've taken it upon myself to go back over messages this month, with the help of one or two others, to see if anything can be resolved with the project admins.
Not promising any rapid resolution (I'm back at work, so my time is currently limited) but I've tried to impress on them how urgent things have become.
One small change has been noticed already - not on the Disk & RAM demands yet - but let's see how things go over the next day or two.
Fingers crossed.

Thank you, it’s much appreciated.

A change to Disk & RAM has now been made aiui.
I don't know how long it will take to work its way through to us users.

Not a reversion to pre-April levels (maybe still double those levels), but a significant reduction that will help a proportion of people.
Hopefully that proportion is large enough to make a difference to people here.

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https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2021/04/10/210410121431111496.png

with Boinc 7.16.11 (x64) . . .

Thanks for this image. Very clear.
I used it to illustrate the problems everyone is seeing.

If you begin to see new tasks, can you confirm that here?

Same goes for others.
Disk & RAM req'ts will continue to be higher than in March aiui, but not as high as shown here.
People are advised to increase Boinc's memory allocation under Boinc's Options/Computing Preference as high as you can afford for your own circumstances.
There will still be high limits, but I'm trying to see if it affects people as much as before - hopefully only if you have unusually constrained systems

my answers here ;)


message #101231

message #101342

https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2021/04/10/210410121431111496.png

with Boinc 7.16.11 (x64) . . .

Thanks for this image. Very clear.
I used it to illustrate the problems everyone is seeing.

If you begin to see new tasks, can you confirm that here?

Same goes for others.
Disk & RAM req'ts will continue to be higher than in March aiui, but not as high as shown here.
People are advised to increase Boinc's memory allocation under Boinc's Options/Computing Preference as high as you can afford for your own circumstances.
There will still be high limits, but I'm trying to see if it affects people as much as before - hopefully only if you have unusually constrained systems

my answers here ;)

message #101231

message #101342

Ok, so you solved the Disk space problem yourself, but RAM was still a problem on 17-April

Are you still seeing the RAM problem after 19-April? That's when the change was made.

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