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Message 100961 - Posted: 1 Apr 2021, 10:38:50 UTC

Hi,

For few days, I can't get new work to process.

Is a problem exists with the servers ?

boinccmd --get_project_status
======== Projects ========
1) -----------
name: Rosetta@home
master URL: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/
user_name: Paul
team_name:
resource share: 100.000000
user_total_credit: 99571.824582
user_expavg_credit: 405.919920
host_total_credit: 24506.932503
host_expavg_credit: 405.913071
nrpc_failures: 0
master_fetch_failures: 0
master fetch pending: no
scheduler RPC pending: no
trickle upload pending: no
attached via Account Manager: no
ended: no
suspended via GUI: no
don't request more work: no
disk usage: 0.000000
last RPC: Thu Apr 1 12:08:37 2021

project files downloaded: 0.000000
GUI URL:
name: Message boards
description: Correspond with other users on the Rosetta@home message boards
URL: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_index.php
GUI URL:
name: Your account
description: View your account information
URL: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php
GUI URL:
name: Your tasks
description: View the last week or so of computational work
URL: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?userid=xxx
jobs succeeded: 178
jobs failed: 18
elapsed time: 5833879.213958
cross-project ID: xxx



boinccmd --get_cc_status
network connection status: don't need connection
CPU status
not suspended
current mode: always
perm mode: always
perm becomes current in 0 sec
GPU status
not suspended
current mode: according to prefs
perm mode: according to prefs
perm becomes current in 0 sec
Network status
not suspended
current mode: according to prefs
perm mode: according to prefs
perm becomes current in 0 sec
Operation failed: Error 2
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Message 100970 - Posted: 1 Apr 2021, 11:27:52 UTC - in response to Message 100961.  

With 2 GB, your machine does not have enough memory to be sent any of the current batch of work units, which are marked as requiring up to 6.6 GB (even if in practice they need much less). Until Rosetta has some smaller work units again, you might want to consider a different project.
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Message 100988 - Posted: 1 Apr 2021, 17:38:38 UTC - in response to Message 100970.  

thanks ;)
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Message 101139 - Posted: 7 Apr 2021, 22:33:39 UTC

Yeah I see that there are zero work units ready to go. I have not gotten any work units for over a week now. Any idea when this might be fixed?

Wayno
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Message 101140 - Posted: 7 Apr 2021, 22:41:39 UTC - in response to Message 101139.  

No idea when it might be fixed. Stay patient…
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Message 101152 - Posted: 8 Apr 2021, 2:39:05 UTC - in response to Message 101139.  

Yeah I see that there are zero work units ready to go. I have not gotten any work units for over a week now. Any idea when this might be fixed?

Wayno


For the short term this project http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/ still seems to be sending out tasks based on Science also. As you can tell by the word "test" in the name it can't handle a ton of pc's etc but for the short term it's an idea instead of leaving your pc idling.
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Message 101198 - Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 5:00:48 UTC - in response to Message 100970.  

I think it was a mistake to make it impossible for us to participate. I have been doing this for years and now I can't - not happy about it as I believe in what you are doing. Upsetting that I will no longer be able to participate. but there are lots of projects I will be able to spend my computer time on. Best of luck.
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Message 101204 - Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 13:24:19 UTC - in response to Message 101198.  

I think it was a mistake to make it impossible for us to participate. I have been doing this for years and now I can't - not happy about it as I believe in what you are doing. Upsetting that I will no longer be able to participate. but there are lots of projects I will be able to spend my computer time on. Best of luck.


Give it time and they will fix it, it's a simple setting to change but with 30k tasks it means aborting everything, changing the setting and then reissuing them...sound really simple doesn't it? It is UNTIL you add in the fact that every task from Rosetta is made offsite by a 3rd party vendor, meaning THEY have to do the changes not Rosetta itself and that means a delay. New tasks could be here later today, tomorrow, next week or even the week after, but they WILL be here at some point.
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Message 101221 - Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 23:15:59 UTC - in response to Message 101204.  

New tasks could be here later today, tomorrow, next week or even the week after, but they WILL be here at some point.
And so far all of the new Tasks have been mis-configured as well.
The issue began on the 30th of March, and it was clearly an issue by the the 1st of April- and if the project Admins were monitoring things they could have seen what was going on & informed the researcher of the problem with their Work Units.
The researcher could have re-set the configuration & re-issued the Work Units, the Rosetta admins could have cancelled all the erroneously configured Tasks and the re-issued ones then released for processing.

You'd think that the loss of more than 1/3 of the total computing resources for the project would have been noticed & addressed, but it would appear that it's not a problem, and so nothing has been done to address it.
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Message 106522 - Posted: 12 Jul 2022, 21:47:09 UTC

Still no new work more than a year later. It kinda pisses me off. I started with Seti at home in the 90's. Sad the researchers feel it is ok to discard people who want to help. I am having the same issue with World Community Grid as well now. I have tried other projects and will continue to look online for some. Hope these people end up having to pay for their computer time since they will not take free time that is offered.
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Message 106527 - Posted: 13 Jul 2022, 4:49:29 UTC - in response to Message 106522.  

Still no new work more than a year later.
There has been work continuously available over the last 12months, however it requires VirtualBox in order to process it.
The older Rosetta 4.20 Tasks are have also been available for the last 12 months, and continue to be available- however there are generally not many released with each batch, and those releases are very sporadic.
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Message 106675 - Posted: 29 Jul 2022, 23:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 106527.  
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I don't think I've gotten a new task in over a month and I'm on version 7.20.2 with virtualbox installed as well. Project status page says there's 5K tasks to send out but I'm not getting any of them. Just stopped for some reason.

EDIT: It was this post that helped me where I needed to allow virtualbox tasks. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=15036&postid=106661
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Message 106800 - Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 15:18:40 UTC - in response to Message 100961.  

0.24 in 2 days

but I have several projects run on 1 PC
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Message 106921 - Posted: 14 Sep 2022, 1:59:31 UTC

Are there any diagnostic commands I can run on my laptop to find out why I'm not getting tasks. The event log just says "no tasks sent". I'm sitting on my laptop with 128G of RAM and plenty of available cycles to share. Otherwise, Einstein, WCG, and SIDock are getting all of them.
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Message 106922 - Posted: 14 Sep 2022, 5:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 106921.  

Are there any diagnostic commands I can run on my laptop to find out why I'm not getting tasks. The event log just says "no tasks sent"....

If you take a peek at https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php you will see there are no new tasks to be sent out -- to anyone.
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Message 106923 - Posted: 14 Sep 2022, 5:11:44 UTC - in response to Message 106921.  

Are there any diagnostic commands I can run on my laptop to find out why I'm not getting tasks. The event log just says "no tasks sent".
There are none to send, so you haven't got any.
There are the occasional resends, and even more occasional batches of Rosetta 4.20 work, but it's just a matter of very lucky timing to request work at the very moment they are released, as it doesn't take long for them to be allocated to other systems.


If more Python Tasks are released, and you're still not getting any work, then you would need to check out your system details and click on Allow if it is there for Virtualbox work. But until then, i wouldn't bother.
Rosetta is dead.
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Message 107028 - Posted: 2 Oct 2022, 10:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 101198.  

Yeah me too I did this since 2008 and had to switch to folding at home ....they always have work ..........so far
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