Ralph stats

Message boards : Number crunching : Ralph stats

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · Next

AuthorMessage
mikey
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 06
Posts: 1894
Credit: 8,790,782
RAC: 1,162
Message 100304 - Posted: 4 Jan 2021, 3:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 100303.  

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_ralph.html

poor ralph units during the year 2020
Half of those in the last peak were me. I spent all afternoon adjusting buffers and pestering the server with 7 computers. Jumped from 267th to 7th place, wehey!


And now you are dropping again....


How is that possible when they have no work? Everyone must stay in the same position if no work is in progress.

Oh no! I hate the stats within Boinc projects, they default to RAC, which is pointless. I assumed it was my position based on total credits. I'm actually 142nd :-(


LOL!!! You are getting old and forgetful


No, I just can't stand illogical things. If a marathon runner is in 3rd place, he's got two people in front of him, he's not the one that's running the 3rd fastest at that point. I expected the default sorting to be credits, not RAC.


And therein lies the problem...you forgot this is Boinc and not real life...Boinc is ALL about RAC.
ID: 100304 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100308 - Posted: 4 Jan 2021, 18:19:41 UTC - in response to Message 100304.  
Last modified: 4 Jan 2021, 18:20:09 UTC

And therein lies the problem...you forgot this is Boinc and not real life...Boinc is ALL about RAC.
Not for me. I'm both keen on the science, the playing with the hardware, and the credits. But I only care what my total credits are. What's the point in earning credits if they aren't counted in a few month's time? I watch my world position based on total credits in each project.
ID: 100308 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
mikey
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 06
Posts: 1894
Credit: 8,790,782
RAC: 1,162
Message 100309 - Posted: 5 Jan 2021, 1:06:40 UTC - in response to Message 100308.  

And therein lies the problem...you forgot this is Boinc and not real life...Boinc is ALL about RAC.


Not for me. I'm both keen on the science, the playing with the hardware, and the credits. But I only care what my total credits are. What's the point in earning credits if they aren't counted in a few month's time? I watch my world position based on total credits in each project.


But as you've noticed credits aren't worth the data cost of sending them to you. If all you want is to be higher in the total credits stats you need some newer gpu's and to hop onto Collatz and crunch away. you will quickly move up in the World stats until you get to where people physically have more and better hardware than you do.

Now if you want to crunch at other Projects as well you are going to have to start tracking your RAC and comparing yourself to others at the same Project instead of across multiple Projects.
ID: 100309 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100315 - Posted: 5 Jan 2021, 18:57:04 UTC - in response to Message 100309.  
Last modified: 5 Jan 2021, 18:58:12 UTC

And therein lies the problem...you forgot this is Boinc and not real life...Boinc is ALL about RAC.


Not for me. I'm both keen on the science, the playing with the hardware, and the credits. But I only care what my total credits are. What's the point in earning credits if they aren't counted in a few month's time? I watch my world position based on total credits in each project.


But as you've noticed credits aren't worth the data cost of sending them to you. If all you want is to be higher in the total credits stats you need some newer gpu's and to hop onto Collatz and crunch away. you will quickly move up in the World stats until you get to where people physically have more and better hardware than you do.

Now if you want to crunch at other Projects as well you are going to have to start tracking your RAC and comparing yourself to others at the same Project instead of across multiple Projects.
I care about the world position within each project, not the total for all projects. I doubt I'll ever get in the top ten, but I use the position to show I'm doing well, better than most. And it's handy to show me how much I've done for each project. The amount I've done in the last month is meaningless, it's what I've ever done that counts.

Anyway, my Ryzen is better than yours (especially as I've just ordered a 2nd 32GB chip to give it dual channel), and I'll be getting a top end Nvidia when I get that huge monitor for games.
ID: 100315 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
mikey
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 06
Posts: 1894
Credit: 8,790,782
RAC: 1,162
Message 100320 - Posted: 5 Jan 2021, 23:50:54 UTC - in response to Message 100315.  
Last modified: 5 Jan 2021, 23:53:35 UTC

And therein lies the problem...you forgot this is Boinc and not real life...Boinc is ALL about RAC.


Not for me. I'm both keen on the science, the playing with the hardware, and the credits. But I only care what my total credits are. What's the point in earning credits if they aren't counted in a few month's time? I watch my world position based on total credits in each project.


But as you've noticed credits aren't worth the data cost of sending them to you. If all you want is to be higher in the total credits stats you need some newer gpu's and to hop onto Collatz and crunch away. you will quickly move up in the World stats until you get to where people physically have more and better hardware than you do.

Now if you want to crunch at other Projects as well you are going to have to start tracking your RAC and comparing yourself to others at the same Project instead of across multiple Projects.


I care about the world position within each project, not the total for all projects. I doubt I'll ever get in the top ten, but I use the position to show I'm doing well, better than most. And it's handy to show me how much I've done for each project. The amount I've done in the last month is meaningless, it's what I've ever done that counts.

Anyway, my Ryzen is better than yours (especially as I've just ordered a 2nd 32GB chip to give it dual channel), and I'll be getting a top end Nvidia when I get that huge monitor for games.


Then you need to look at Free-DC which can give you an easy to see what your stats are doing on an as often as the Projects update their stats stats site. Try here:

https://stats.free-dc.org/userbycpid/53ed9d9b7d568cb7eb1ccc25a7dc4492
ID: 100320 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100326 - Posted: 6 Jan 2021, 17:30:24 UTC - in response to Message 100320.  

Then you need to look at Free-DC which can give you an easy to see what your stats are doing on an as often as the Projects update their stats stats site. Try here:

https://stats.free-dc.org/userbycpid/53ed9d9b7d568cb7eb1ccc25a7dc4492
I'm already using Boincstats which seems fine. Any problems and the guy running it sorts them immediately.
ID: 100326 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
mikey
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 06
Posts: 1894
Credit: 8,790,782
RAC: 1,162
Message 100327 - Posted: 6 Jan 2021, 18:45:18 UTC - in response to Message 100326.  

Then you need to look at Free-DC which can give you an easy to see what your stats are doing on an as often as the Projects update their stats stats site. Try here:

https://stats.free-dc.org/userbycpid/53ed9d9b7d568cb7eb1ccc25a7dc4492


I'm already using Boincstats which seems fine. Any problems and the guy running it sorts them immediately.


works for me but then why are you following the wrong numbers?
ID: 100327 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100331 - Posted: 7 Jan 2021, 19:06:26 UTC - in response to Message 100327.  

Then you need to look at Free-DC which can give you an easy to see what your stats are doing on an as often as the Projects update their stats stats site. Try here:

https://stats.free-dc.org/userbycpid/53ed9d9b7d568cb7eb1ccc25a7dc4492


I'm already using Boincstats which seems fine. Any problems and the guy running it sorts them immediately.


works for me but then why are you following the wrong numbers?
I follow the right numbers, the total work ever done for each project by me.
ID: 100331 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile [VENETO] boboviz

Send message
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 1893
Credit: 8,511,191
RAC: 11,390
Message 100362 - Posted: 9 Jan 2021, 10:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 100287.  
Last modified: 9 Jan 2021, 10:35:40 UTC

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_ralph.html
poor ralph units during the year 2020

And it's not a good news
Rosetta is a complex, bundled up code. It makes a lot of different simulations, often there are problems with wus, validation, etc.
A good debug is welcome, but seems that to the administrators is fine anyway.... :-(
ID: 100362 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
mikey
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 06
Posts: 1894
Credit: 8,790,782
RAC: 1,162
Message 100366 - Posted: 9 Jan 2021, 12:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 100362.  

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_ralph.html
poor ralph units during the year 2020


And it's not a good news
Rosetta is a complex, bundled up code. It makes a lot of different simulations, often there are problems with wus, validation, etc.
A good debug is welcome, but seems that to the administrators is fine anyway.... :-(


Agreed
ID: 100366 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100368 - Posted: 9 Jan 2021, 18:32:04 UTC - in response to Message 100362.  

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_ralph.html
poor ralph units during the year 2020

And it's not a good news
Rosetta is a complex, bundled up code. It makes a lot of different simulations, often there are problems with wus, validation, etc.
A good debug is welcome, but seems that to the administrators is fine anyway.... :-(
Try Albert@home (the test for Einstein). Hasn't had any tasks for years.
ID: 100368 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile [VENETO] boboviz

Send message
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 1893
Credit: 8,511,191
RAC: 11,390
Message 100369 - Posted: 9 Jan 2021, 18:48:19 UTC - in response to Message 100368.  
Last modified: 9 Jan 2021, 18:49:43 UTC

Try Albert@home (the test for Einstein). Hasn't had any tasks for years.

I know, i know.
But Einstein's code is much more "consistent", homogeneous.
If you see the rosetta code, it changes almost every day (even if R@H takes these changes very slowly).
ID: 100369 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100370 - Posted: 9 Jan 2021, 19:00:56 UTC - in response to Message 100369.  
Last modified: 9 Jan 2021, 19:03:59 UTC

Try Albert@home (the test for Einstein). Hasn't had any tasks for years.
I know, i know.
But Einstein's code is much more "consistent", homogeneous.
I'm not so sure about that, Einstein have changed quite a lot of stuff for their GPU apps. The gamma stuff runs much faster, and the gravity stuff needs more GPU RAM and won't run on older cards that are missing the new instruction sets. I can't run gravity at all on my 280X cards, and I can't remember why I don't run it on my RX 560. It's got more RAM and is newer. Something it didn't like about them.

If you see the rosetta code, it changes almost every day (even if R@H takes these changes very slowly).
Wow, I didn't realise just how much went into the programming.

I just wish Rosetta would tell us what they're working on. With WCG, I can see if it's cancer, African rainfall, immune system, or coronavirus. The apps have different names and you can choose which you prefer.
ID: 100370 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile [VENETO] boboviz

Send message
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 1893
Credit: 8,511,191
RAC: 11,390
Message 100375 - Posted: 9 Jan 2021, 21:39:01 UTC - in response to Message 100370.  

I'm not so sure about that, Einstein have changed quite a lot of stuff for their GPU apps.

(A lot of Einstein@home code is FFT maths).
It's a while that i don't visit E@H site, but situation seems not so good
A LOT of invalid, inconclusive, failed.

I just wish Rosetta would tell us what they're working on. With WCG, I can see if it's cancer, African rainfall, immune system, or coronavirus. The apps have different names and you can choose which you prefer.

It's an old request from volunteers
ID: 100375 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100388 - Posted: 10 Jan 2021, 17:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 100375.  

(A lot of Einstein@home code is FFT maths).
It's a while that i don't visit E@H site, but situation seems not so good
A LOT of invalid, inconclusive, failed.
Most of that is the gravity tasks. They fail if your GPU doesn't have enough RAM, or if it has an outdated instruction set. I can't run it on an RX 560 or an R9 280X. I used to be able to, until they improved the code.

I just wish Rosetta would tell us what they're working on. With WCG, I can see if it's cancer, African rainfall, immune system, or coronavirus. The apps have different names and you can choose which you prefer.
It's an old request from volunteers
Should be easy enough to implement, I wonder what they're hiding? We could be working on anything....
ID: 100388 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile [VENETO] boboviz

Send message
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 1893
Credit: 8,511,191
RAC: 11,390
Message 100425 - Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 11:33:25 UTC - in response to Message 100388.  

Stats are still "freezed" and also "user of the day" is still the same...
ID: 100425 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100431 - Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 18:43:05 UTC - in response to Message 100425.  

Stats are still "freezed" and also "user of the day" is still the same...
It's "frozen". You remind me of a kid at the school I worked at. She's say "I'm freezed!" and the smart arse teacher would quote the temperature off a thermometer and say it was above zero, so not freezing, so you're not having the heating on.
ID: 100431 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile [VENETO] boboviz

Send message
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 1893
Credit: 8,511,191
RAC: 11,390
Message 100433 - Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 19:17:16 UTC - in response to Message 100431.  

You remind me of a kid at the school I worked at.

I'm from Italy. English is not my first language.
So, please, be patient with me.
ID: 100433 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1600
Credit: 9,922,699
RAC: 8,799
Message 100437 - Posted: 18 Jan 2021, 19:23:42 UTC - in response to Message 100433.  

You remind me of a kid at the school I worked at.

I'm from Italy. English is not my first language.
So, please, be patient with me.
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound rude. And your English is better than most people around here in Scotland. Some of them have accents so strong I have no idea what they're saying.
ID: 100437 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
mikey
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 06
Posts: 1894
Credit: 8,790,782
RAC: 1,162
Message 100452 - Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 13:32:50 UTC - in response to Message 100437.  

You remind me of a kid at the school I worked at.

I'm from Italy. English is not my first language.
So, please, be patient with me.


Sorry, I didn't mean to sound rude. And your English is better than most people around here in Scotland. Some of them have accents so strong I have no idea what they're saying.


LOL!!! You should try hearing it from a non Scottish persons ears!!!
ID: 100452 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : Ralph stats



©2024 University of Washington
https://www.bakerlab.org