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Message 103630 - Posted: 30 Nov 2021, 20:04:08 UTC - in response to Message 103625.  

Good luck. Rosetta has more Python work right now and they lowered the requirements.
My 8 GB RAM laptop just got 5 tasks when it previously received none.

You are right! BOINC Manager/Properties shows:

Virtual memory size 2,881.82 MB
Working set size 2,861.02 MB

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Message 103636 - Posted: 1 Dec 2021, 3:21:27 UTC - in response to Message 103625.  

Do they have any non-Python work? None of my systems are powerful enough to run Python.
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Message 103637 - Posted: 1 Dec 2021, 4:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 99595.  

indeed. We've had no work units for several weeks now. I've switched to World Community Grid and Einstein in the interim. I thought that the project had ended, put no one had said anything.

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Message 103662 - Posted: 2 Dec 2021, 18:59:47 UTC - in response to Message 103636.  

Do they have any non-Python work? None of my systems are powerful enough to run Python.



4.2 plain jane Rosetta is hit and miss. (Mostly miss)
You can leave your system attached and maybe you will get lucky to get some when they drop in new batches.
Otherwise take your pick of projects. SiDock or WCG are options in Protein folding.
Outside of that...up to you.
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Message 103663 - Posted: 2 Dec 2021, 19:04:35 UTC - in response to Message 103637.  

indeed. We've had no work units for several weeks now. I've switched to World Community Grid and Einstein in the interim. I thought that the project had ended, put no one had said anything.

Wayno



4.2 is a hit and miss adventure now.
Most of the work is staying internal on their AI Neural network.
Python, I don't know if they have explained what that does or not, but you need Virtualbox to run that.
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Message 103667 - Posted: 2 Dec 2021, 19:46:05 UTC
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Has anything changed with Rosetta tasks?

I now have two Rosetta tasks which are likely to take 17-18 hours.

I uninstalled Virtual Box and Folding@Home.

OOps. Looks like they're Python tasks. Maybe not suitable for my computer. I my abort them.

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Message 103668 - Posted: 2 Dec 2021, 20:19:00 UTC - in response to Message 103667.  

If you no longer have VB installed but still have Python tasks in the queue, you should definitely cancel them.
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Message 103669 - Posted: 2 Dec 2021, 21:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 103668.  
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If you no longer have VB installed but still have Python tasks in the queue, you should definitely cancel them.


Thanks. Yes. I did that and checked No New Tasks. Virtual Box and Folding made my computer impossibly slow and sometimes locked it up.

Guess this machine is not sufficiently advanced for those.

So I may suspend Rosetta indefinitely, unless they come up with some non-Python tasks.

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Message 103671 - Posted: 2 Dec 2021, 22:12:50 UTC - in response to Message 103669.  
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If you no longer have VB installed but still have Python tasks in the queue, you should definitely cancel them.


Thanks. Yes. I did that and checked No New Tasks. Virtual Box and Folding made my computer impossibly slow and sometimes locked it up.

Guess this machine is not sufficiently advanced for those.

So I may suspend Rosetta indefinitely, unless they come up with some non-Python tasks.

S. Gaber



If you uninstalled VB, you will only receive the standard Rosetta 4.20 tasks whenever they are available and provided your computer asks for work from Rosetta@home.
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Message 103676 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 6:05:55 UTC - in response to Message 103671.  

If you uninstalled VB, you will only receive the standard Rosetta 4.20 tasks whenever they are available and provided your computer asks for work from Rosetta@home.


So how can I specify only standard Rosetta 4.20 tasks and ask Rosetta@Home for that type of work?

Usually, I just hit Update, which shows as a request in the event log.

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Message 103677 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 7:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 103676.  

If you uninstalled VB, you will only receive the standard Rosetta 4.20 tasks whenever they are available and provided your computer asks for work from Rosetta@home.


So how can I specify only standard Rosetta 4.20 tasks and ask Rosetta@Home for that type of work?

Usually, I just hit Update, which shows as a request in the event log.

S.Gaber


Like I said, no Vbox = Rosetta 4.20 only. You don't need to do anything else.

If there is Rosetta 4.20 work, you'll get it.
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Message 103680 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 17:45:41 UTC - in response to Message 103669.  

If you no longer have VB installed but still have Python tasks in the queue, you should definitely cancel them.


Thanks. Yes. I did that and checked No New Tasks. Virtual Box and Folding made my computer impossibly slow and sometimes locked it up.

Guess this machine is not sufficiently advanced for those.

So I may suspend Rosetta indefinitely, unless they come up with some non-Python tasks.

S. Gaber



If you goto this page (your account) https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3551508 you should see a button at the bottom that allows you to accept or reject python tasks.
It is your computer details page that has this.
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Message 103681 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 17:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 103677.  

If you uninstalled VB, you will only receive the standard Rosetta 4.20 tasks whenever they are available and provided your computer asks for work from Rosetta@home.


So how can I specify only standard Rosetta 4.20 tasks and ask Rosetta@Home for that type of work?

Usually, I just hit Update, which shows as a request in the event log.

S.Gaber


Like I said, no Vbox = Rosetta 4.20 only. You don't need to do anything else.

If there is Rosetta 4.20 work, you'll get it.



Not quite accurate. RAH will attempt to send you Python tasks until one of two things happen.

1) Your system gets blacklisted by the Python scheduler because you return to many errors, because you do not have Vbox
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2) You disable your profile from getting Vbox tasks as explained in other threads.

With all the small queues of 4.2 tasks it may not be worth staying attached to this project for now.
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Message 103685 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 20:06:23 UTC - in response to Message 103681.  
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No, if you don't have Vbox installed, you don't get Vbox tasks. I know because that's what happens on devices where I have not installed Virtualbox.
Also, if VirtualBox isn't installed, the skip/allow option is not available at the details page.
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Message 103690 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 22:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 103680.  
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Below is the details page for my Rosetta account. I saw one Python task completed (before I uninstalled Virtual Box). But I saw no way to specify no Python tasks. --S. Gaber

Application details for host 3551508
Rosetta Mini 3.78 windows_x86_64
Number of tasks completed 39
Max tasks per day 509
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 9
Average processing rate 2.43 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 0.98 days
Rosetta Mini 3.78 windows_intelx86
Number of tasks completed 250
Max tasks per day 504
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 4
Average processing rate 4.25 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 1.32 days
Rosetta 4.07 windows_intelx86
Number of tasks completed 42
Max tasks per day 504
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 4
Average processing rate 2.55 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 0.96 days
Rosetta 4.07 windows_x86_64
Number of tasks completed 403
Max tasks per day 502
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 2
Average processing rate 4.96 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 1.33 days
Rosetta 4.12 windows_x86_64
Number of tasks completed 22
Max tasks per day 501
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 1
Average processing rate 5.50 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 1.50 days
Rosetta 4.12 windows_intelx86
Number of tasks completed 5
Max tasks per day 505
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 5
Average processing rate 5.72 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 1.33 days
Rosetta 4.15 windows_x86_64
Number of tasks completed 58
Max tasks per day 518
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 18
Average processing rate 5.29 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 1.38 days
Rosetta 4.20 windows_x86_64
Number of tasks completed 1618
Max tasks per day 585
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 37
Average processing rate 2.78 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 0.27 days
rosetta python projects 1.03 windows_x86_64 (vbox64)
Number of tasks completed 1
Max tasks per day 501
Number of tasks today 2
Consecutive valid tasks 1
Average processing rate 2.78 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 0.64 days

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Message 103691 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 23:10:20 UTC - in response to Message 103690.  

Below is the details page for my Rosetta account. I saw one Python task completed (before I uninstalled Virtual Box). But I saw no way to specify no Python tasks. --S. Gaber
That isn't the details page for your Rosetta account, that is the details page for the Applications on your computer.
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Message 103693 - Posted: 4 Dec 2021, 0:18:33 UTC - in response to Message 103685.  

No, if you don't have Vbox installed, you don't get Vbox tasks. I know because that's what happens on devices where I have not installed Virtualbox.
Also, if VirtualBox isn't installed, the skip/allow option is not available at the details page.



But how does it know? To me it sounded like a default set up.
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Message 103723 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 12:36:20 UTC

I gave up with Python tasks after a few were taking a few days to finish the last ~0.001% of the WU!

Any idea what that's about?
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Message 103724 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 14:36:53 UTC - in response to Message 103723.  
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If you had checked their CPU time, it would likely have been just a few minutes.

I don't know if there is a solution.
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Message 103725 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 15:08:28 UTC - in response to Message 103723.  

I had one hang on me last night.
I checked with BOINC tasks and saw a cpu usage of .18% which is really odd and then I checked CPU time (45 seconds) against an hours long run time. So I just aborted it.

What all does your computer do for BOINC or other stuff? I see WCG.
You have 12 cores and how much memory? Every Python takes 7629.38 MB of RAM
Do you run FAH as well? If so how man cores and what strength?

You may need to tweak your demands on your system depending on what you run and what you do with your system.

Since you do not have any completed or errored tasks to look at, there is no way to tell whats going on.

There is a command that I just learned by another person that allows you to limit the number of python tasks running on your system, that may also help you get stuff completed faster.

Your processor is not all that different from mine. Speeds are the same. OC is the same. You just have 4 "cores" less than me. 12 vs 16.

Your system runs how many hours a day?
I run around 14-16 a day.
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