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Message 96276 - Posted: 8 May 2020, 19:31:03 UTC
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The queue was brought up to over 9 million on April 28th - https://web.archive.org/web/20200428015118/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

fell to 5.7 million WUs less than a week later https://web.archive.org/web/20200502165444/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

and has depleted to 1.5 million as of the latest update at 19:xx UTC today. So, while much of this can be marked up to the BOINC Pentathlon's tendency to Bunker WUs - the end result will still be a potential shortage of WUs.

So because of these stats - it's fair to wonder if we'll be running into another shortage.

Note: Just wanted to start this discussion, not to yell at the scientists or mods to make more WUs. Please refrain from doing so in this thread, or in general. We're not entitled to WUs - I just wanted to start the conversation... a healthy conversation.
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Message 96282 - Posted: 8 May 2020, 23:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 96276.  

The queue was brought up to over 9 million on April 28th - https://web.archive.org/web/20200428015118/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

fell to 5.7 million WUs less than a week later https://web.archive.org/web/20200502165444/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

and has depleted to 1.5 million as of the latest update at 19:xx UTC today. So, while much of this can be marked up to the BOINC Pentathlon's tendency to Bunker WUs - the end result will still be a potential shortage of WUs.

So because of these stats - it's fair to wonder if we'll be running into another shortage.

Note: Just wanted to start this discussion, not to yell at the scientists or mods to make more WUs. Please refrain from doing so in this thread, or in general. We're not entitled to WUs - I just wanted to start the conversation... a healthy conversation.


My understanding is the current tasks help determine the path the next round of tasks follow so yes they dwindle down and then pop back up again.
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Message 96284 - Posted: 9 May 2020, 2:03:22 UTC - in response to Message 96282.  

Has Rosetta ever had a shortage during a Pentathlon?
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Message 96292 - Posted: 9 May 2020, 5:51:46 UTC
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hi, if the researchers need to evaluate the current results before the next batch, please make announcements on the main web page as well as in boinc-gui so that people would hang on in the project. if there is going to be a pause in between, do state so and give estimate of the pause duration if possible.

a pause is not a bad thing, people may perform maintenance in between, upgrades, restart servers etc.
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Message 96307 - Posted: 9 May 2020, 12:42:20 UTC - in response to Message 96292.  

hi, if the researchers need to evaluate the current results before the next batch, please make announcements on the main web page as well as in boinc-gui so that people would hang on in the project. if there is going to be a pause in between, do state so and give estimate of the pause duration if possible.

a pause is not a bad thing, people may perform maintenance in between, upgrades, restart servers etc.


Set up a couple of zero resource share backup projects and the only thing your pc will know is it's crunching for a different project today than it was yesterday. Then when Rosetta has tasks again it will come back to Rosetta with no hiccups.
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Message 96312 - Posted: 9 May 2020, 15:20:31 UTC - in response to Message 96292.  

hi, if the researchers need to evaluate the current results before the next batch, please make announcements on the main web page as well as in boinc-gui so that people would hang on in the project. if there is going to be a pause in between, do state so and give estimate of the pause duration if possible.

a pause is not a bad thing, people may perform maintenance in between, upgrades, restart servers etc.


There are multiple studies underway at all times. So, when one stops to evaluate results and plan next work to send, another has completed their plans for next work to send, and is sending it out. There is also a steady stream of work coming in through the Robetta servers.
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Message 96349 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 2:02:18 UTC - in response to Message 96284.  

Has Rosetta ever had a shortage during a Pentathlon?

Lol...
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Message 96414 - Posted: 13 May 2020, 0:00:38 UTC - in response to Message 96282.  

The queue was brought up to over 9 million on April 28th - https://web.archive.org/web/20200428015118/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

fell to 5.7 million WUs less than a week later https://web.archive.org/web/20200502165444/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

and has depleted to 1.5 million as of the latest update at 19:xx UTC today. So, while much of this can be marked up to the BOINC Pentathlon's tendency to Bunker WUs - the end result will still be a potential shortage of WUs.

So because of these stats - it's fair to wonder if we'll be running into another shortage.

Note: Just wanted to start this discussion, not to yell at the scientists or mods to make more WUs. Please refrain from doing so in this thread, or in general. We're not entitled to WUs - I just wanted to start the conversation... a healthy conversation.


My understanding is the current tasks help determine the path the next round of tasks follow so yes they dwindle down and then pop back up again.

we'll have to wait and see what happens.
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Message 96491 - Posted: 14 May 2020, 17:15:13 UTC - in response to Message 96312.  

hi, if the researchers need to evaluate the current results before the next batch, please make announcements on the main web page as well as in boinc-gui so that people would hang on in the project. if there is going to be a pause in between, do state so and give estimate of the pause duration if possible.

a pause is not a bad thing, people may perform maintenance in between, upgrades, restart servers etc.


There are multiple studies underway at all times. So, when one stops to evaluate results and plan next work to send, another has completed their plans for next work to send, and is sending it out. There is also a steady stream of work coming in through the Robetta servers.


I s'pose this means that this now-present shortage will be resolved quickly?
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Message 96495 - Posted: 14 May 2020, 19:10:41 UTC - in response to Message 96491.  

hi, if the researchers need to evaluate the current results before the next batch, please make announcements on the main web page as well as in boinc-gui so that people would hang on in the project. if there is going to be a pause in between, do state so and give estimate of the pause duration if possible.

a pause is not a bad thing, people may perform maintenance in between, upgrades, restart servers etc.


There are multiple studies underway at all times. So, when one stops to evaluate results and plan next work to send, another has completed their plans for next work to send, and is sending it out. There is also a steady stream of work coming in through the Robetta servers.


I s'pose this means that this now-present shortage will be resolved quickly?

I came here to report the same. Reviewed unread messages first - this was the only mention.
Did a final check to see where we were - and another million tasks got made available in just those few minutes.
Problem already being solved.
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Message 96497 - Posted: 14 May 2020, 19:26:40 UTC

As the pond thins out maybe it's time to switch from 8Hrs runs to 36Hrs (???)

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