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Message 95815 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 15:39:29 UTC

Is anyone else getting this message in the Event Log:

5/2/2020 1:55:38 AM | Rosetta@home | This project is using an old URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

Does this mean remove and reinstall?

Never seen a message like this.

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Message 95816 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 15:42:40 UTC - in response to Message 95815.  
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Is anyone else getting this message in the Event Log:

5/2/2020 1:55:38 AM | Rosetta@home | This project is using an old URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

Does this mean remove and reinstall?

Never seen a message like this.

Thanks


They switched to SSL. Set Rosetta to no new tasks, finish up the ones you have in your queue, then remove the project. Add it again, but when adding, at the start use https instead of http.

See this thread for more info: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13894

old url: http ://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

New url: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

Log in as existing user, everything else is the same. You don't lose any credit.
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Message 95820 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 16:13:18 UTC - in response to Message 95816.  

Thanks CIA...quick and simple!
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Message 95900 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 5:53:00 UTC

Unfortunately it screws the caching.

Due to having multiple machines I run squid to save downloading the same thing multiple times. It would have helped if they left the downloads as plain http so one could cache them at least.
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Message 95914 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 9:58:37 UTC - in response to Message 95900.  

It would have helped if they left the downloads as plain http so one could cache them at least.
But would defeat the purpose of using HTTPS elsewhere.
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Message 95920 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 12:20:48 UTC - in response to Message 95914.  
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It would have helped if they left the downloads as plain http so one could cache them at least.
But would defeat the purpose of using HTTPS elsewhere.

All it does is confirm there is no man in the middle. Useful for financial stuff, passwords and so on, not so for downloads of data files. Now my machines on the project download each time and tie up their download server connection for longer. They could have just done the scheduler and that would have been enough.
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Message 95924 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 13:48:27 UTC - in response to Message 95920.  

HTTP will be dead within the next 5 years thanks to the great and gradual work the Chrome devs are doing to push for this goal.

All it does is confirm there is no man in the middle. Useful for financial stuff, passwords and so on, not so for downloads of data files.


Your western protective bubble is showing.
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Message 95926 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 14:03:12 UTC
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i think the http (non-s) is after all still available? i'd guess one could use that as a fallback?
that would keep the proxies sane

but i'd think 1.20 is an adequate improvement, a large common database file now goes into the project directory. this significantly reduce the downloads and disk footprint
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Message 95929 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 14:39:40 UTC

Using a secure connection for scientific data to me seems a good idea. Sure, the whole BOINC system isn't at the levels of a financial system but still it helps
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Message 95934 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 15:32:39 UTC
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I asked about why the change was needed in the SSL thread, and the response was that the http version will continue to be active for the foreseeable future. They added https because some large organizations offered to donate CPU time, but for whatever reason they would only do so over https instead of http. So the Rosetta people added https for them.

You can continue using http without issue but for simplicity sake they would like everyone, at their convenience, to switch to the SSL version. Eventually the built in project joiner of Boinc will also be updated so new signups/new setups will default to the SSL version. So over time this "problem" will slowly, naturally, sort itself out and everyone will migrate to SSL seamlessly. There appears to be no rush to switch, the normal http version isn't going away anytime soon. For the average user, there is no difference using the http version vs the https, it's just easier to support one thing over the long term, and that one thing might as well be the more secure standard going forward.
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Message 95937 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 16:33:16 UTC

Having issues here - I removed my existing projects as directed and am trying to update the updated URL. To do this I need to enter my password, which I need to reset, however I'm not getting a reset email, despite many requests. I have rejoined this forum under a new name and account in order to post.

Is the password reset system working??

Note: I have also tried the alternative method of locating my pasword described in the notes provided, but "account_boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta.xml" (or anything like it) does not appear to exisit on my PC - I have unhidden files/folders etc, but cannot locate it. I need to use my exisiting account to administrate the Team I created!

Apologies if this is the incorrect thread to post this in - can anyone at R@h help me with this, please?
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Message 95956 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 22:13:20 UTC - in response to Message 95920.  

It would have helped if they left the downloads as plain http so one could cache them at least.
But would defeat the purpose of using HTTPS elsewhere.

All it does is confirm there is no man in the middle. Useful for financial stuff, passwords and so on, not so for downloads of data files. Now my machines on the project download each time and tie up their download server connection for longer. They could have just done the scheduler and that would have been enough.
See the reasons for going to HTTPS.
Basically it had to be all or nothing, and nothing wasn't an option any longer.
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Message 95957 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 22:51:31 UTC - in response to Message 95937.  

Having issues here - I removed my existing projects as directed and am trying to update the updated URL. To do this I need to enter my password, which I need to reset, however I'm not getting a reset email, despite many requests. I have rejoined this forum under a new name and account in order to post.

Is the password reset system working??

Note: I have also tried the alternative method of locating my pasword described in the notes provided, but "account_boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta.xml" (or anything like it) does not appear to exisit on my PC - I have unhidden files/folders etc, but cannot locate it. I need to use my exisiting account to administrate the Team I created!

Apologies if this is the incorrect thread to post this in - can anyone at R@h help me with this, please?


I sent the auth string to your registered email. Let me know if you got it.
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Message 95958 - Posted: 3 May 2020, 22:55:24 UTC - in response to Message 95900.  

Unfortunately it screws the caching.

Due to having multiple machines I run squid to save downloading the same thing multiple times. It would have helped if they left the downloads as plain http so one could cache them at least.


Can you use squid with https?
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Message 95975 - Posted: 4 May 2020, 2:21:49 UTC - in response to Message 95934.  

This is good. I run boinc on 4 computers and the software, the boinc package I have installed, seems to like the http site. No option, easily available, to go https.
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Message 95976 - Posted: 4 May 2020, 2:24:41 UTC - in response to Message 95957.  

My web browser has the username/password information stored away for seamless logins to this site. Even not knowing what OS/Browser you're using, there's a possibility yours does too.
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Message 95986 - Posted: 4 May 2020, 4:10:56 UTC - in response to Message 95958.  

Unfortunately it screws the caching.

Due to having multiple machines I run squid to save downloading the same thing multiple times. It would have helped if they left the downloads as plain http so one could cache them at least.


Can you use squid with https?

It passes it through without caching.
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Message 96137 - Posted: 5 May 2020, 21:32:27 UTC

I upgraded as requested and it is running OK. Unfortunately, the new version added a full screen screen-saver which blocks my view of the display of stock market action. I have to wiggle the rodent every few minutes to get rid of thiks full screen advertisement. I tried renaming c:windolwsboinc.scr to c:windowsboincA.scr and so far the advertisement hasn't popped up again, but I'm not sure if the software will be continuously searching for a nonexistent file. I will remove rosetta@home if I don't get an answer to this!
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Message 96138 - Posted: 5 May 2020, 21:35:30 UTC - in response to Message 96137.  
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I upgraded as requested and it is running OK. Unfortunately, the new version added a full screen screen-saver which blocks my view of the display of stock market action. I have to wiggle the rodent every few minutes to get rid of thiks full screen advertisement. I tried renaming c:windolwsboinc.scr to c:windowsboincA.scr and so far the advertisement hasn't popped up again, but I'm not sure if the software will be continuously searching for a nonexistent file. I will remove rosetta@home if I don't get an answer to this!

What new version?
All it is, is a change in web address.

And what advertisement?
Rosetta doesn't have any advertising.

It does have graphics you can watch if you want to- but you have to select them, or you can set it up to act as a screen saver, which you can just turn off.
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Message 96140 - Posted: 5 May 2020, 22:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 96137.  

I will remove rosetta@home if I don't get an answer to this!


Really? Threats? on your first post? Nice to meet you too!

Don't select BOINC as your Windows screensaver, and it won't be displayed as your Windows screensaver. If you select NONE as your screensaver, you won't have a screensaver that hides your applications until mouse of keyboard activity is detected.

If you has other questions, please ask... if you ask nicely, people feel better about helping you understand how to get things running the way you like.
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