Rosetta 4.83

Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.83

To post messages, you must log in.

AuthorMessage
Rossmor35

Send message
Joined: 24 Sep 05
Posts: 4
Credit: 84,870
RAC: 0
Message 12849 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 20:20:28 UTC

Does the new version of Rosetta allow you to do away with leaving the Rosetta app in memory when switching to work at a another project after 1hr?
ID: 12849 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 7 Oct 05
Posts: 234
Credit: 15,020
RAC: 0
Message 12851 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 22:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 12849.  
Last modified: 30 Mar 2006, 23:00:56 UTC

Does the new version of Rosetta allow you to do away with leaving the Rosetta app in memory when switching to work at a another project after 1hr?


NO! Don't do it. Let it stay in memory.

Over at Ralph, they are working with Windows Application 4.93, and this one seems stable to the "not be left in memory while preempted" problem, but it hasn't been implemented here yet.

You can follow the development in this thread: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/forum_thread.php?id=4

I have reported crashed Rosetta WU's due to this problem myself here.

So let Rosetta WU's stay in memory while preempted. I'm sure they'll let us know when it can be changed, as Rom is working hard on the problems.


[b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b]

ID: 12851 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Divide Overflow

Send message
Joined: 17 Sep 05
Posts: 82
Credit: 921,382
RAC: 0
Message 12852 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 23:07:59 UTC
Last modified: 30 Mar 2006, 23:10:51 UTC

I beg to differ. The recent Rosetta application change includes a fix for removing a WU from memory that was already successful on RALPH. Check the Technical News page here for details.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_technical_news.php

If you are interested in removing a WU from memory, try giving it a shot and see how it goes. I'd pay close attention for a little while to confirm that the fix is good! (The continued application changes for RALPH are zeroing in on the 1% bug, among other fixes.)
ID: 12852 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 7 Oct 05
Posts: 234
Credit: 15,020
RAC: 0
Message 12854 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 23:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 12852.  

I beg to differ. The recent Rosetta application change includes a fix for removing a WU from memory that was already successful on RALPH. Check the Technical News page here for details.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_technical_news.php

If you are interested in removing a WU from memory, try giving it a shot and see how it goes. I'd pay close attention for a little while to confirm that the fix is good! (The continued application changes for RALPH are zeroing in on the 1% bug, among other fixes.)


Thanks. I wasn't aware of this, as I've followed the threads about this problem both on Ralph and here.

I've emptied my cache due to a hardware upgrade tomorrow or Monday, and after this I'll certainly give it a try. It is after all this, I signed in over at Ralph for. :-)


[b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b]

ID: 12854 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
doc :)

Send message
Joined: 4 Oct 05
Posts: 47
Credit: 1,106,102
RAC: 0
Message 12862 - Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 1:44:13 UTC

remember that you still will loose all work done after the last checkpoint if you remove it from memory, even if it does not crash anymore :)
ID: 12862 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 7 Oct 05
Posts: 234
Credit: 15,020
RAC: 0
Message 12866 - Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 4:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 12862.  
Last modified: 31 Mar 2006, 4:28:45 UTC

remember that you still will loose all work done after the last checkpoint if you remove it from memory, even if it does not crash anymore :)


Yes, and because of this, it's a good idea to set the switch time between the projects to at least 2 hours.

But I thought they had overcome some of those problems with the checkpoints in the beginning, where the checkpoints were very scarce? Now it seems like there're checkpoints quite often.



[b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b]

ID: 12866 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
doc :)

Send message
Joined: 4 Oct 05
Posts: 47
Credit: 1,106,102
RAC: 0
Message 12868 - Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 5:32:59 UTC

there are more jumps early in each run now, like 1.02 and 1.03, but it still can take a long time to reach the next model. i did not really watch that close yet though to be sure if there are much more checkpoints or not :)
ID: 12868 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
R/B

Send message
Joined: 8 Dec 05
Posts: 195
Credit: 28,095
RAC: 0
Message 12943 - Posted: 2 Apr 2006, 11:56:20 UTC

Should I go and change my 'leave in memory' setting to 'no' now? Would it matter? Thanks in advance.
Founder of BOINC GROUP - Objectivists - Philosophically minded rational data crunchers.


ID: 12943 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
doc :)

Send message
Joined: 4 Oct 05
Posts: 47
Credit: 1,106,102
RAC: 0
Message 12945 - Posted: 2 Apr 2006, 14:09:10 UTC

"should"? my opinion, no, cause you will still loose everything that happened since the last checkpoint.
but you can remove it from memory without crashing the WU now if you want.
:)
ID: 12945 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote

Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.83



©2024 University of Washington
https://www.bakerlab.org