I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but.....

Something seems to be amiss on my end. I haven't gotten any new work units for a couple of weeks, and am wondering what went wrong.

I have tried resetting, have detachedd and re-attached to the project but these actions didn't seem to help. Any suggestions?


edit: Found the problem, was another project I had running that had literally taken over the boinc manager. Now have new work units DLed and running.

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I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but.....

Something seems to be amiss on my end. I haven't gotten any new work units for a couple of weeks, and am wondering what went wrong.

I have tried resetting, have detachedd and re-attached to the project but these actions didn't seem to help. Any suggestions?

Are you BOINCing any other projects? If you have more than two projects on a machine[1], it may be simply that those projects "beats" Rosetta to the "get next project".

I've found mixing two projects on each machine will work better than having three or four projects on one machine.

I've seen posts that explain how to calculate how often the work should be fetched and how many projects you can combine, etc, etc - but it's all a bit difficult... Much simpler to choose one or two projects that you really like, and stick with them... [Most of my machines run only one project: Rosetta].

[1] Single processor machine - on multiprocessors there are more chances to get more work.

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Mats

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The only thing that I've found that seems to fix this is to go to

"rosetta@home"

then

"your account"
"preferences"
"rosetta@home preferences" (not the general preferences)

In this area your "resource share" is probably set to 100 (the most likely setting you might pick from when you set up the project- I'm not certain what it defaults to if you don't pick a value, though 100 would make sense). The documentation is kind of vague and it took me while to figure this out (right or wrong). I don't think this should be thought of as 100%: It is more of a priority (kind of like mainframe priorities or Unix nice-ing) - at least as I understand it. It's value might be 100, but that does not mean 100% of resources. Rather, you add the various projects' priorities together - whatever they are - then divide the sum, by the number of projects, for the mean. Projects above this value/point get timeslice priority above "average" or actually above lower projects regardless of the average. Essentially they seem to be asked "do you need attention" more often than the other projects. Note: If you use a default (or the same) value for everything the math will obviously work out to that value. This value might be equal across all projects at 100 (or whatever) but the vaguaries of the way the projects operate within BOINC evidently does not guarantee that they really get equal "functionality" out of BOINC. I WOULDN'T ACTUALLY DO THE MATH AT ALL - NO NEED- IF THE NUMBER IS HIGHER THE PROJECT GETS MORE ATTENTION. I don't think it works out lineal so no reasn to do the math. Just set Rosetta (or which ever project you are not getting response from) higher than the other projects you are running. To do this

click on the bottom at

"edit Rosetta@home prefernces"

edit the "resource share" field's value and input something like 150 or 200. It will take a few minutes to reflect the update, but it will then preferentially prioritize Rosetta. It still runs all the other projects you may have running for their full time slices - which is a different setting - but will now give Rosetta the priority it needs to get new work. It will come back to Rosetta more often so rosetta may end up getting more done (at the expense of others). If this happens you can always scale the Rosetta preference slowly back to as close to 100 as will permit new work to still come down.

In particular, I've noticed if you leave the default settings of 100 for everything, on some machines Rosetta has a hard time contending with Einstein@home. This completely fixed my allocation and timeslicing problems. I now run with Rossetta at 150 and Einstein and Seti both at 100. Eistein still completes more work than Rosetta does, but Rosetta always runs and gets work now.

Note: This does not result in an excessive "slew" or "swap-out" condition with wasted time unloading from memory. That evidently is a different setting. Each of my projects runns for their full 3 hours slice (I upped that too from the default 60? minutes) before swapping out.

I've tried to find other solutions before finding this and the only other thing I can think of is to make the

"target CPU time"

setting in a given project closer to the timeslice or the number of times a day it checks for new work -but I'm completely speculating there - this fixed my probelm so I haven't looked further.

hope this helps,

Jeff A


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I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but.....

Something seems to be amiss on my end. I haven't gotten any new work units for a couple of weeks, and am wondering what went wrong.

I have tried resetting, have detachedd and re-attached to the project but these actions didn't seem to help. Any suggestions?[/quote]

Are you BOINCing any other projects? If you have more than two projects on a machine[1], it may be simply that those projects "beats" Rosetta to the "get next project".

I've found mixing two projects on each machine will work better than having three or four projects on one machine.

. . .

Mats

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Can somebody please remove this item from the Q&A board? The visible text is so long that you cannot see the right "Answers" bar indicating the number of answers and the time since they were given anymore. To see the effect you need to go into the board rather than the post itself. Very annoying when trying to browse that board.

Thanks.

I've deleted the message Christoph mentioned. It's subject line indicated it was a test message anyway. The only text was a url tag and it was very long and not redured very well on the msg board display.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

I've deleted the message Christoph mentioned. It's subject line indicated it was a test message anyway. The only text was a url tag and it was very long and not redured very well on the msg board display.

Could you feedback that bug back to the developers ... It is a bug that needs fixing.

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Team mauisun.org

My computer runs 24/7 and would appear to be crunching away for Rosetta but my user average is dropping like a stone what am I doing wrong

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Stu, this is a question better for the number crunching forum. The message board moderators cannot control your RAC. But many users (and moderators) can offer you suggestions on things to look for. But the subject warrents it's own thread. Or, perhaps join this existing discussion on the subject.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

re: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=986&filter=false#34993

In message https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=986&nowrap=true#19485 , it was stated:

"Requirements for posting to this thread

Feel free to post an advertisement for your team on this thread

1) Only one post (listing) per team please. "

I notice a number of instances of teams posting multiple times. Will this be dealt with?

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RE: Team ads thread, I believe I've removed all the duplicates. If I've missed any, please let me know. Likewise, if I've accidentally removed a team's only post, we can correct that too.

tmpchaos, just so you are aware of it, we did decide to open up the Cafe board a little more to teams and allow them to each have a thread if they like. So don't be surprised if threads start popping up. I hope it encourages team involvement in the project.

Per the posting guidelines, only one post on this thread per team please. Deleting older posts. But you might consider starting a thread for your team in the Cafe.

--Mod.Sense

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

RE: Team ads thread, I believe I've removed all the duplicates. If I've missed any, please let me know. Likewise, if I've accidentally removed a team's only post, we can correct that too.

tmpchaos, just so you are aware of it, we did decide to open up the Cafe board a little more to teams and allow them to each have a thread if they like. So don't be surprised if threads start popping up. I hope it encourages team involvement in the project.

Per the posting guidelines, only one post on this thread per team please. Deleting older posts. But you might consider starting a thread for your team in the Cafe.

--Mod.Sense

Thanks!

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I fear you have not removed all duplicates...

Please check the following messages.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=986&nowrap=true#17210

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=986&nowrap=true#33861

Thank you for your co-operation.

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Thank you for catching that Keith. I've removed the duplicate, as I did with the others.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

Thank you for catching that Keith. I've removed the duplicate, as I did with the others.

Cheers.

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recently a mod said that no pictures should be posted in word link, well user angus keeps annoying us by posting his SPAM pictures.

perhaps you guys could look into this and do something.

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I haven't seen a moderator requesting no pictures in the word link thread. And I do not intend to devote much time to that thread. I suggest you go to your message board preferences and in the filtering section enter user number 83 and click the "Add user to filter" button. Short of that, you could simply not link words to the posts of the user you wish to discourage.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

Since you *insist* on only responding to threads posted here...

I challenge the entire relevance of the Cafe. It has no place in a scientific Distributed Computing project. It adds nothing to the science or the techniques of crunching.

The entire thing is off topic, and therefor anything posted there is off-topic, and any response to those cannot be deleted for being off-topic without deleting the entire thread, and Cafe.

Perhaps the ONLY relevant thread here is this one, but only because this project refuses to follow the BOINC standard and provide access to Moderators through the red 'x' at the bottom of each post.

You said there is no ban on images in the the threads, but then proceed to delete my images. You are engaging in discriminatory censorship, based on my minority opinion.

If the users want to block images, that is an option in the Message Board Preferences. I suggest they exercise it, and quit stomping on my posts.

I take a very personal affront with the messages relating my Scottish heritage name with the exit of the bowel. Those are highly offensive, and much more deserving of a deletion or ban than any picture of canned meat that I might post.

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Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :)



"You can't fix stupid" (Ron White)

Angus -You don't take offense at the anatomy of the back end of a certain animal, so much as you take the pleasure in flooding our forums with your stupid picture followed by long strings of text to the same effect.

Thats what offends me and others. Why else do you think you were ganged up on in the various threads? If you behaved like a normal person and knocked this cow patty nonsense off then you wouldn't be having so many people mad at you.

Mod- Sorry it was not a mod that made the no pictures comment, it was another user. none the less the other issue stated above was the main problem.

Angus - you have made the ignore list as well

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Angus, as you point out, the main purpose here is the science. I will not be asking other users to further modify their settings in ways that will inhibit their learning about the science. And therefore will be moderating in a mannar that does not assume one must block certain content which has no relevance to the thread.

I have deleted the two posts which you referenced, as you point out, they were namecalling.

As for whether the Cafe board should exist at all, the Project Team decided that it should.

Just because I delete posts that contained images does not at all imply that this was the reason for their deletion. They were disruptive to the thread and in several cases the text around the image caused the margins of the thread to be extended.

Your signiture proudly boasts about being banned, and being a bad BOINC user. It also invites others not only to consider anatomical parts which sound similar to your fine family name, but to KISS them! If you wish for the participants in a word association thread to NOT bring up such topics, I'd suggest you either not post there, or change your signiture to be less offsensive to everyone.

If you wish to maintain your good family name, I suggest you make nice with the locals. You began your return to the Rosetta boards with offsenses to the Moderators, and you now stand out as the only user I feel I must consistently monitor. But I will not be doing that for long. I would much rather be using my time in ways that are constructive for the project, not constantly cleaning up the trash that others have strewn about. If your posts continue to require moderation, I will recommend your account be banned from posting to the boards. And you can grumble to yourself about it all over MySpace if you like.

[edit]About your comments on the red X, that is a topic which bears further discussion. It's not something I can directly control as a moderator, but I can make recommendations to the Project Team. Perhaps you could start a thread explaining your point and why it is needed in the Number Crunching board.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

While I am not going to make a federal case out of it, I will state for the record that there was no intent to insult anyone's heritage, and accordingly the wordlink was not "namecalling".

However, if mods feel the potential for mis-understanding is too great, I do not object to the deletion.

I would remind everyone that the thread was entitled WordLink, and my wordlink was a legitimate response to the previous word "spam".

While other countries in the world may relish Hormel's spam as a culinary delight, here in the States, its reputation is not so esteemed, as reflected by its ingredients and my wordlink.

Wikipedia: "Spam is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. The labeled ingredients in the Classic variety of Spam are: chopped pork shoulder meat with ham meat added, salt, water, sugar, and sodium nitrite. It has gained a peculiar infamy, along with something of a place in pop culture, and has even entered into folklore and urban legend.

Since fresh meat was difficult to get to the soldiers on the front, World War II saw the largest use of Spam. GIs started eating Spam for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. (Some soldiers referred to Spam as "ham that didn't pass its physical" and "meatloaf without basic training.")

Many jocular backronyms have been devised, such as "Something Posing As Meat"

'nuf said.

EDIT --> I will apologize to Angus for any perceived insult he felt. And if a response such as mine (a definition from a dictionary) was in any other thread other than WordLink, I would likely agree that it would not be legitimate. However, when you post the word "spam" in a WordLink, you shouln't be overly surprised with what the legitimate responses could be.

I have deleted the two posts which you referenced, as you point out, they were namecalling.

If you wish to maintain your good family name, I suggest you make nice with the locals.