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![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
That is decidedly non-responsive on their part. The ONLY avenue available to report an offensive post in confidence is disabled by choice. Fine - How's this for an example of what is left to the users to publically report what could very well be offensive to some, particularly the younger audiences: The Mauisun.org team thread in this forum has a discussion of purple penises. Consider it reported. Angus Wrote- Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
vavega![]() Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 82 Credit: 519,981 RAC: 0 |
Mod9........ perhaps it would help if you included the contact email address in your signature line example: __________ Moderator9 contact me at.... Rosettamod9 at yahoo dot com (replace the "at" and the "dot" with the correct symbols to properly format the address) |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
So it appears that the project principals have totally abandoned all responsibility for the forums, giving it away completely to the volunteer moderators. You must have missed the "in confidence" part of my post. You yourself pointed out that reporting posts by email to non-project personnel (volunteer moderators) reveals the personal email addresses. I don't care to have emails to non-project people as my method of reporting, so no - I will not take your suggestion. How much time canit possibly take to edit one parameter in one config file to assign a project moderator to take some responsibility as the reporting recipient for their forum? That is decidedly non-responsive on their part. The ONLY avenue available to report an offensive post in confidence is disabled by choice. .... Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
Angus asked: (edited for brevity) Sure ! I can drive there in 20 minutes (no kidding) and add a project contact to their forum config file. Think they'll let me in the door? If the change had been made right away when it was first reported, this conversation would not have had to drag on... I have reported one obscene username by email to D Kim, and now the obscene posts in another thread. That probably would have been the extent of my drain on the reporting system. But now it has escalated into a big deal, where it could have been fixed months ago with no further fuss. Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
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Vavega Wrote- FYI: Many people run with images, avatars and signatures turned off, so nothing in there is ever guaranteed to be seen. Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
vavega![]() Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 82 Credit: 519,981 RAC: 0 |
could ya make it any bigger!?? ![]() all joking aside, i do believe a smaller font and plain black would be more in keeping with your personality and demeanor as a moderator. i think that anyone who is savvy enough to willingly run rosetta on their machine(s) will be willing to give up a spam email address, after all they trust to register with one. especially as they know it will afford them the luxury of whining sorry...whinging about something or other.....wouldn't you agree? |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
So except for the fact that the e-mail report would be an off project function, it is a difference without a distinction. There is one important distinction: The project people already have access to personal information. The users have to accept that when they register for the project. We do NOT, however, have to release that personal information to outside moderators. There still remains only two avenues of contact outside of public posts - a) contact the project principals by email or b) contact one outside-of-the-project moderator by email Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
Moderator9: I'm fully aware of methods and capable of doing things remotely. However, since I'm an IT professional in a large server site, I naturally assumed that it would be easier to address it in person rather than having the project set up a VPN or similar access path for a trivial change. I also was not contemplating a confrontation, but a reasonable belief that outsiders might not be allowed in secure lab locations on the UW campus. I've worked on that campus. As for spending a lot of time talking about the issue, that has not been my choice or the choice of the project. This is a situation where we can "DO" or "TEACH" your choice has been teach, what is your pleasure? I offered - have they responded directly to my very specific offer? Apparently not. I have presented your issues to the project team, as I am certain you must have by now your self. Only on the forum, except for the singular report to David Kim. They have taken a decision as to how they will handle it. I have reported the decision back to you, and implemented the proposed solution. You are seemingly unhappy with the decision they have made, and have elected to persue the messenger.Pursuing the unresolved issue with the forum, not attacking the messanger. You put yourself in the middle, so you have to expect to be the two-way conduit on this issue. Since the entire discussion has been available for over 36,000 users to comment on, and the vast majority remain silent, I can only conclude that this may only be a problem for a handful of users, only one of whom continues to take issue with the proposed solutions. Clearly the project has reached a similar conclusion. So it is no mystery to me why the project may not see it as a significant problem, that remains unaddressed. Maybe they don't see a reason for a bunch of "me too" psots. Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
As I said below, EVERYTHING has been public on the forum EXCEPT one email to David Kim on another matter entirely. Since you have been crowned with the authority to contact the project and report back, I have taken the public route for everything. Perhaps you could report VERBATIM the project's replies on this issue (if they have indeed replied at all), not filtered by your personal views on this. Without that, we only have your interpretation of what the project is 'thinking'. I do not accept silence as a reply. Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
So- Are we to believe that the whole discussion on this has been one way from you to the project, and you have not received ANY communication from them on the topic? Or if they have replied, you can't or won't share those replies with the community? One would wonder why? It seems very odd the the project people have and can take time to have private discussions with the out-of-project moderators, but never have the time to post direct answers to user concerns. Seems very odd, indeed. As if they are too good to communicate with mere users who provide the crunching power they need to do their work. You are indeed correct that the relations are becoming strained - but only because of lack of communication from the project. Somehow you have the idea that I have communicated on this topic privately with the project and ignored any reply, although I have repeatedly told you otherwise. Maybe I really do have to drive up to BakerLab myself to find the true story. Angus wrote- Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
FluffyChicken![]() Send message Joined: 1 Nov 05 Posts: 1260 Credit: 369,635 RAC: 0 |
Hi you just moved 3 post from science to here (cafe) but this is for none boinc/rosetta talk.. Shouldn't they be sent to number crunching ? posts being; optimised lcinets won't connect ralph ?? Team mauisun.org |
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CAFE = "Not usually worth reading for anything serious" The only two serious forums are Science and Number Crunching Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
XS_Vietnam_Soldiers Send message Joined: 11 Jan 06 Posts: 240 Credit: 2,880,653 RAC: 0 |
Yes, I'd like to speak with you. You have my email address? I have free calling in the US and canada if that is where you are located. Thank you. EDIT: On second thought I will contact David Baker at his office tomorrow. This type of contact through a forum only works with full time mods and this catch-as-catch-can method is way to slow to solve issues in a timely manner. Thank you again for your time. |
FluffyChicken![]() Send message Joined: 1 Nov 05 Posts: 1260 Credit: 369,635 RAC: 0 |
Mod, no worries :) Just checking it was not a mistake. as for the email sent to us :-) Team mauisun.org |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
How is this joking post, with an obvious smiley, considerd a flame/hate post worthy of being deleted? I have a WU Here that has been Peniding for hours. This is not normal as usually they are granted immediately??? Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0 |
How is this joking post, with an obvious smiley, considerd a flame/hate post worthy of being deleted? Or maybe the content struck too close to home - hearing your own words. Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) ![]() "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) |
SBF-GODS-STONE Send message Joined: 6 Nov 05 Posts: 15 Credit: 44,784 RAC: 0 |
GO TO THE QUESTION & PROBLEMS FOR WINDOWS...NOTE DOWNLOAD PROBLEM> THIS MUST MAKE WONDER WHERE THE ARE GOING ??? |
David Bidanset Send message Joined: 18 Feb 06 Posts: 2 Credit: 91,450 RAC: 0 |
To Moderator9: From D. Bidanset; Thank you for looking out for my interests and go ahead and delete my original message. If you can contact "the team", please let them know that I have attached to RALPH and I have an account, yet RALPH has not downloaded a single byte of information to my machine. I do not wish to continue to send back failed work units. Oh, if you could fix my spelling error ("compution" should be "computation")in your post, I'd be much obliged. You asked me to let you know if I had heard from rosetta@home in a few days, I have not seen anything in my e-mails from them. Thanx, David |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Oct 05 Posts: 234 Credit: 15,020 RAC: 0 |
To the moderators: Please see post https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1106#12272 Please create a thread in Number Crunching, where we can report crashed Rosetta WU's due to Ralph testing. And please move my two posts to that thread. Regards. Fuzzy Hollynoodles. [b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b] ![]() |
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Yes, but apparently Rosetta is not deployed in Ralph. :-( David Kim said it was safe to change the setting, so I'm very annoyed of losing Rosetta WU's to this bug. There was a discussion over there about this problem, that participating in Ralph should not be of the expense of Rosetta. In short, I want credit for the crashed Rosetta WU's due to Ralph testing! [b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b] ![]() |
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