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Message 109522 - Posted: 3 Aug 2024, 3:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 109517.  

If it wasn't for WCG I'd just turn the computers off. The folks at DENIS@Home have gone on vacation. I do have one really, really old laptop running Einstein simply because the computer won't die and it doesn't have enough horsepower to run anything else.
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Message 109524 - Posted: 4 Aug 2024, 4:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 109521.  

Clarifications on Milkyway and Universe

Milkyway ended one application that did use either CPU's or GPU's and now the remaining application only runs CPU work

Universe is on pause while the University and the Family of the principle Lead on the project work out a path forward.

Both are worthwhile projects and are valid science efforts. Hopefully the Universe project will find a way to move forward soon.

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Message 109526 - Posted: 5 Aug 2024, 9:43:08 UTC - in response to Message 109520.  

And it was about a week after the second of those releases of work that everything went down in a screaming heap.


Maybe they are busy with RosettaCON2024
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Message 109527 - Posted: 5 Aug 2024, 16:21:09 UTC - in response to Message 109519.  

Server page hasn't changed in 48 hrs:
Try a week and a half going on 2 weeks.


Transitioner backlog (hours) 239.27 <--- What is this device?
It cleans things up.
Once completed Tasks are returned and Validated, the transitioner moves the Validated results from the master database to the main science database.



And it hasn't moved 239 hours and now 309 hours of work? Man that is slow.
And a 163 in progress? I saw that when I posted my comments and its still the same.
But on the other hand, everything is offline. So who knows whats going on.

It's almost like a shutdown of the project.
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Message 109528 - Posted: 5 Aug 2024, 16:28:20 UTC - in response to Message 109524.  

Clarifications on Milkyway and Universe

Milkyway ended one application that did use either CPU's or GPU's and now the remaining application only runs CPU work

Universe is on pause while the University and the Family of the principle Lead on the project work out a path forward.

Both are worthwhile projects and are valid science efforts. Hopefully the Universe project will find a way to move forward soon.

Bill F

Milkyway since July 2009
Universe since June 2016


I've been here on ( when there was updates and mods) and off (after they migrated to inhouse) since May 2006
LHC is my next oldest since December 2008
Milkway since August 2009
Universe since November 2017 until they stopped.
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Message 109530 - Posted: 6 Aug 2024, 0:03:53 UTC

While we are waiting for new Rosetta tasks another Science based project that supports Windows, Linux and Mac ... CPU's and / or GPU's is Asteroids@home

I have been running the project since January of 2013.

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Message 109531 - Posted: 6 Aug 2024, 8:22:24 UTC - in response to Message 109527.  

And it hasn't moved 239 hours and now 309 hours of work? Man that is slow.
And a 163 in progress? I saw that when I posted my comments and its still the same.
But on the other hand, everything is offline. So who knows whats going on.

It's almost like a shutdown of the project.
As i posted previously, the servers have crashed, and nothing has been done about it.
For 2 weeks, as of today.
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Message 109532 - Posted: 6 Aug 2024, 13:08:00 UTC - in response to Message 109530.  

While we are waiting for new Rosetta tasks another Science based project that supports Windows, Linux and Mac ... CPU's and / or GPU's is Asteroids@home

I have been running the project since January of 2013.

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Bill, thanks for sharing! Asteroids does not support GPUs on Intel-based Macs. On the other hand, Amicable Numbers <-https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/> supports CPUs, NVIDIA GPUs, AMD GPUs, and Intel GPUs on Windows, Linux, and Intel-based Macs.

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Message 109533 - Posted: 6 Aug 2024, 20:55:22 UTC - in response to Message 109531.  

And it hasn't moved 239 hours and now 309 hours of work? Man that is slow.
And a 163 in progress? I saw that when I posted my comments and its still the same.
But on the other hand, everything is offline. So who knows whats going on.

It's almost like a shutdown of the project.
As i posted previously, the servers have crashed, and nothing has been done about it.
For 2 weeks, as of today.


Summer break and they will deal with it later if at all.
Crashed how? Got caught in the windows death spiral or something else?
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Message 109535 - Posted: 7 Aug 2024, 1:52:41 UTC

It is ubuntu so Kernel Panic spiral.
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Message 109541 - Posted: 7 Aug 2024, 21:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 109535.  

It is ubuntu so Kernel Panic spiral.


Wouldn't have thought that was possible. I guess every language has its problems.
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Message 109548 - Posted: 12 Aug 2024, 4:47:13 UTC - in response to Message 109502.  

The Principle Investigator of the Universe project died in a mountaineering accident.
Here's what they said about that:
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Universe@Home future
The time has come to inform you about what will happen next with the Universe@Home project.

As you know, Krzysztof Belczyński was the initiator and lead scientist of the project - he was the head of our small team. His sudden passing caused a bit of chaos, which we are gradually trying to manage. Unfortunately, the latest changes in the application code that were being implemented also disappeared with him. For this reason, as well as the necessity to introduce changes to the application code that had been planned for some time, we have decided to temporarily suspend the generation of new WUs.

As of today, we already know that Universe@Home will not end - it is being taken under the wing of Prof. Tomasz Bulik (https://nauka-polska.pl/#/profile/scientist?id=23855&lang=en&_k=ta6rhj). Nevertheless, we must ask for your patience; at this moment, the most important thing is to manage the organizational and formal matters and to work on the changes in the code. This should take us two to three months.

I will keep you updated.
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Message 109551 - Posted: 12 Aug 2024, 20:46:51 UTC - in response to Message 109548.  

I question why an update for Universe@home is being posted on the Rosetta@home site ...

It's good information but is off topic

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Message 109552 - Posted: 13 Aug 2024, 5:50:11 UTC - in response to Message 109551.  
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I question why an update for Universe@home is being posted on the Rosetta@home site ...
It was posted in response to another post that mentioned the project is presently inactive.
Given that the post was from 2 weeks ago, quoting it would have made more sense than just replying.
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Message 109553 - Posted: 13 Aug 2024, 5:52:46 UTC
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Back to the topic- Rsetta has been down for about 3 weeks now.


And they've done something to break the main page overt a Ralph, which now starts off with

Deprecated: trim(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($string) of type string is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util_basic.inc on line 107

Deprecated: trim(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($string) of type string is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util_basic.inc on line 107

Deprecated: trim(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($string) of type string is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util_basic.inc on line 107

Deprecated: trim(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($string) of type string is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util_basic.inc on line 107

Deprecated: trim(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($string) of type string is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util_basic.inc on line 107

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164
Before displaying the actual main page (with the images for the links under the main banner all missing).

Edit-
and all the forums are broken.
This is the thread for reporting on the current updated application.

Deprecated: trim(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($string) of type string is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util_basic.inc on line 107

Deprecated: trim(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($string) of type string is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util_basic.inc on line 107

Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Call to undefined function get_magic_quotes_gpc() in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util.inc:622 Stack trace: #0 /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util.inc(703): undo_magic_quotes() #1 /projects/boinc/ralph/html/user/forum_thread.php(31): get_str() #2 {main} thrown in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/util.inc on line 622


And you get this at the top of the Number crunching threads.

eprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property BoincUser::$prefs is deprecated in /projects/boinc/ralph/html/inc/forum_db.inc on line 164

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Message 109555 - Posted: 13 Aug 2024, 6:51:13 UTC - in response to Message 109553.  

Back to the topic- Rsetta has been down for about 3 weeks now.
And they've done something to break the main page overt a Ralph, which now starts off with


And now is completely down.
Good holidays to everyone!!
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Message 109556 - Posted: 13 Aug 2024, 6:53:29 UTC - in response to Message 109555.  

Back to the topic- Rsetta has been down for about 3 weeks now.
And they've done something to break the main page overt a Ralph, which now starts off with

And now is completely down.
Good holidays to everyone!!
Yeah, just noticed that myself.
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Message 109557 - Posted: 13 Aug 2024, 9:05:55 UTC - in response to Message 109556.  

Yeah, just noticed that myself.

I've turned my cpus to WCG, meantime
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Message 109558 - Posted: 13 Aug 2024, 10:24:50 UTC

And still no sign of Ralph...
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Message 109564 - Posted: 14 Aug 2024, 5:33:09 UTC

I see Ralph is still dead.
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