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Message 96852 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 0:05:56 UTC - in response to Message 96533.  

Greetings,

I don't know that Rosetta would be vulnerable or not. I found this on a website and thought I would post it here for others to read.

Have a great day! :)

Siran


I would not trust that news source as far as I could throw it.

Thanks for you opinion.

I appreciate that you're concerned, - all due respect - but that is not a trustworthy news source to transmit such information. It has a clear right wing, US Republican lean. It's literally called "liberty news".

TLDR: Not trying to call you out, but that's not a good source to use, to share the underlying headline with us.


Not going to jump in regarding that website, but if you go to the actual source (FBI Press release) then you can form your own opinion. Link: https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/peoples-republic-of-china-prc-targeting-of-covid-19-research-organizations

Thanks for a more independent source.
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Message 96853 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 0:07:18 UTC - in response to Message 96534.  

Greetings,

I don't know that Rosetta would be vulnerable or not. I found this on a website and thought I would post it here for others to read.

Have a great day! :)

Siran


I would not trust that news source as far as I could throw it.

Thanks for you opinion.

I appreciate that you're concerned, - all due respect - but that is not a trustworthy news source to transmit such information. It has a clear right wing, US Republican lean. It's literally called "liberty news".

TLDR: Not trying to call you out, but that's not a good source to use, to share the underlying headline with us.

I happen to be conservative which puts me on the right. Again, thanks for your opinion. :)

That's your right, but I try to avoid clearly biased sources on all sides of the debate.

I hope we can move on from this and focus on what matters here - Rosetta. Have a great day.
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Message 96859 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 10:17:11 UTC - in response to Message 96849.  

I fill my cache and set NNT. When I get to 18 or less I set ANT and when the cache is full I set NNT. I just looked and I'm now down to 3 tasks running.

Does anyone have a clue why this is happening? Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)
If you have Seti set as an active project, and since it doesn't have any new work, all that stopping & starting of allowing work here is probably confusing the Manager when it comes to working out debt owed between Seti & Rosetta.
Instead of manually disallowing & allowing work, just let it be and see if it sorts itself out. The more people micro-manage, the messier things become, and the longer it takes to sort things out. That has always been the case.

Hi Grant,

I have SETI set for GPU only. And with a 24 hour wait time before hitting the servers again, should really have no bearing on Rosetta. What do you think?

The reason, which is probably moot by now, that I set NNT when the Rosetta cache is full was to stop running in panic mode. When I first started and before I started doing as I am, all my tasks were running in panic mode even with a deadline of a few days, and of course, nothing running for SETI. You know, I seem to remember where some at SETI with massively HUGE caches were doing something like I am to prevent hitting the servers so hard constantly. Oh well... ;)

I have been thinking of just allowing BOINC to run without setting NNT and I suppose I will do that now... set to ANT. By the way, I'm back to running 9 tasks concurrently again, so it figured itself out. ;)

Thanks Grant and have a great day! :)

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Message 96860 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 10:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 96853.  

Greetings,

I don't know that Rosetta would be vulnerable or not. I found this on a website and thought I would post it here for others to read.

Have a great day! :)

Siran


I would not trust that news source as far as I could throw it.

Thanks for you opinion.

I appreciate that you're concerned, - all due respect - but that is not a trustworthy news source to transmit such information. It has a clear right wing, US Republican lean. It's literally called "liberty news".

TLDR: Not trying to call you out, but that's not a good source to use, to share the underlying headline with us.

I happen to be conservative which puts me on the right. Again, thanks for your opinion. :)

That's your right, but I try to avoid clearly biased sources on all sides of the debate.

I hope we can move on from this and focus on what matters here - Rosetta. Have a great day.

Hi Yoerik,

Yeah, ok, you're from Canada. Nice place by the way. Loved travelling through and visiting there many years ago and many times.

I just recently ran into a "friend", from a long time ago, that transplanted from London to Vancouver. She pretty much had the same attitude. :(

Everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to them. From now on if I see something that may have a bearing on Rosetta, I will endeavor to locate a more "independent source" before posting anything here. :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 96905 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 20:05:47 UTC

Greetings,

Am I a jinx? Don't answer that!!! ;)

I have 2 tasks ready to report and 20 trying to upload. I have 5 tasks left ready to run and 9 currently running.

I noticed that the download server has been offline for quite some time. I haven't seen any mention of this anywhere.

Have a great day! :)

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Message 96912 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 20:49:37 UTC

Even though it says download server is not running it works.

Since you have stuck uploads you might have the certificates expired issue I'm guessing.
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Message 96913 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 21:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 96912.  
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Even though it says download server is not running it works.

Since you have stuck uploads you might have the certificates expired issue I'm guessing.

Hi John,

I looked in my Event log and didn't see anything about an expired certificate. This was my last upload attempt entry in the Event Log:
Sat 30 May 2020 03:31:30 PM CDT | Rosetta@home | Started upload of Junior_HalfRoid_design6_cart_COVID-19_SAVE_ALL_OUT_IGNORE_THE_REST_6rn4yt7s_929381_30_0_r1902247366_0
Sat 30 May 2020 03:31:31 PM CDT |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Sat 30 May 2020 03:31:31 PM CDT | Rosetta@home | Temporarily failed upload of Junior_HalfRoid_design6_cart_COVID-19_SAVE_ALL_OUT_IGNORE_THE_REST_6rn4yt7s_929381_30_0_r1902247366_0: transient HTTP error
Sat 30 May 2020 03:31:31 PM CDT | Rosetta@home | Backing off 00:03:18 on upload of Junior_HalfRoid_design6_cart_COVID-19_SAVE_ALL_OUT_IGNORE_THE_REST_6rn4yt7s_929381_30_0_r1902247366_0
Sat 30 May 2020 03:31:33 PM CDT |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

Would the "attempting access to reference site" entry be due to an expired cert? I've seen this at SETI, but I don't believe it was for an expired cert. We all know that SETI had it's problems. ;)

[edit] Ok, after posting this I saw the "transient HTTP error" entry. I didn't have the column stretched enough in the Event log and that was hidden. Is that an indication of an expired cert?[/edit]

Have a great day! :)

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Message 96915 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 21:22:20 UTC

Yes I also got the transient HTTP error, it´s only when BOINC contacts the scheduler server you get the certificate error.
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Message 96918 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 21:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 96915.  

Yes I also got the transient HTTP error, it´s only when BOINC contacts the scheduler server you get the certificate error.

Hi John,

Ok, thanks. :)

I just noticed that my RAC has taken a nose dive. :( I have 8 tasks left running and none ready to start. Bummer...

Have a great day! :)

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Message 96920 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 21:55:20 UTC - in response to Message 96860.  

Greetings,

I don't know that Rosetta would be vulnerable or not. I found this on a website and thought I would post it here for others to read.

Have a great day! :)

Siran


I would not trust that news source as far as I could throw it.

Thanks for you opinion.

I appreciate that you're concerned, - all due respect - but that is not a trustworthy news source to transmit such information. It has a clear right wing, US Republican lean. It's literally called "liberty news".

TLDR: Not trying to call you out, but that's not a good source to use, to share the underlying headline with us.

I happen to be conservative which puts me on the right. Again, thanks for your opinion. :)

That's your right, but I try to avoid clearly biased sources on all sides of the debate.

I hope we can move on from this and focus on what matters here - Rosetta. Have a great day.

Hi Yoerik,

Yeah, ok, you're from Canada. Nice place by the way. Loved travelling through and visiting there many years ago and many times.

I just recently ran into a "friend", from a long time ago, that transplanted from London to Vancouver. She pretty much had the same attitude. :(

Everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to them. From now on if I see something that may have a bearing on Rosetta, I will endeavor to locate a more "independent source" before posting anything here. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

again - no disrespect meant. I'd just rather leave politics out of science - something that should not need to be political.
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Message 96937 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 0:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 96913.  

Siran d'Vel'nahr wrote:
I looked in my Event log and didn't see anything about an expired certificate.

You might need to have http_debug selected in your Event Log options to see that.

Would the "attempting access to reference site" entry be due to an expired cert?

No; that message comes when BOINC is testing Internet access by fetching a ‘test’ URL (by default https://www.google.com/). Google uses its own certificates for SSL and shouldn’t be affected by the certificate expiry that is causing trouble with BOINC projects.

I saw the "transient HTTP error" entry

I see that from time to time, even when Internet access is available. I don’t think it’s necessarily connected to the certificate problem.
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Message 96973 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 9:57:42 UTC - in response to Message 96937.  

Siran d'Vel'nahr wrote:
I looked in my Event log and didn't see anything about an expired certificate.

You might need to have http_debug selected in your Event Log options to see that.

Would the "attempting access to reference site" entry be due to an expired cert?

No; that message comes when BOINC is testing Internet access by fetching a ‘test’ URL (by default https://www.google.com/). Google uses its own certificates for SSL and shouldn’t be affected by the certificate expiry that is causing trouble with BOINC projects.

I saw the "transient HTTP error" entry

I see that from time to time, even when Internet access is available. I don’t think it’s necessarily connected to the certificate problem.

Hi Brian,

I just looked in my Event log and it is definitely related to an expired cert:
Sun 31 May 2020 04:27:35 AM CDT | Rosetta@home | Reporting 6 completed tasks
Sun 31 May 2020 04:27:35 AM CDT | Rosetta@home | Not requesting tasks: too many uploads in progress
Sun 31 May 2020 04:27:35 AM CDT | Rosetta@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun 31 May 2020 04:27:35 AM CDT | Rosetta@home | [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun 31 May 2020 04:27:37 AM CDT | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request failed: Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with given CA certificates
Sun 31 May 2020 04:27:37 AM CDT | Rosetta@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:01:28
Sun 31 May 2020 04:27:37 AM CDT | Rosetta@home | [sched_op] Reason: Scheduler request failed
Sun 31 May 2020 04:28:00 AM CDT | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Sun 31 May 2020 04:28:02 AM CDT | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

Hopefully tomorrow they can have this resolved. This is the only project I am running. :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 96974 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 10:04:22 UTC - in response to Message 96920.  

You know, this is getting freaking ridiculous. Go back and re-read the post and the info I posted. It was NOT a political post. It was about a potential threat to projects like Rosetta that are researching COVID-19, if I remember correctly. It had NOTHING to do with politics. I suggest you step down from that tall horse you are on and leave me be.

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Message 96976 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 10:19:58 UTC - in response to Message 96973.  
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Hopefully tomorrow they can have this resolved.
It isn't a Rosetta issue it is a BOINC issue and it won't be resolved tomorrow, however the solution is in the thread about expired Security Certificates.
Download the new Security Certificate file, copy it to the Programme files, BOINC folder, problem fixed.
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Message 97014 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 14:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 96976.  
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Hopefully tomorrow they can have this resolved.
It isn't a Rosetta issue it is a BOINC issue and it won't be resolved tomorrow, however the solution is in the thread about expired Security Certificates.
Download the new Security Certificate file, copy it to the Programme files, BOINC folder, problem fixed.

Hi Grant,

I found the other thread with procedures on fixing this issue. The one I used that should have worked and worked for others did not work for me. I posted about it earlier with a quote of the procedure I used.

[edit]I posted about it in the other thread.[/edit]

Have a great day! :)

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Message 97084 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 21:35:48 UTC

Throughout this I have had no problems, new WUs have downloaded, there is no build up of WUs ready to report, looking at user / tasks show a normal number of tasks completed and validated but today my bam account showed zero work done for Rosetta in the past day.

OK, just typing the facts out I’ve convinced myself that the two are not connected so I’ll change the question - has anyone else experienced problems with today’s bam update?
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Message 97104 - Posted: 1 Jun 2020, 10:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 97084.  

Throughout this I have had no problems, new WUs have downloaded, there is no build up of WUs ready to report, looking at user / tasks show a normal number of tasks completed and validated but today my bam account showed zero work done for Rosetta in the past day.

OK, just typing the facts out I’ve convinced myself that the two are not connected so I’ll change the question - has anyone else experienced problems with today’s bam update?

OK, Rosetta missed the bam cut-off, zero yesterday and two separate updates today.
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Message 97344 - Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 17:12:17 UTC

I have been running Rosetta@home on a refurbished computer. It's a temporary stopgap until I can replace my main (Windows 7) computer. It's woefully under powered, but does get SOME work done. However I'm getting an odd message quite frequently.

6/12/2020 9:03:15 AM | Rosetta@home | Project requested delay of 31 seconds
6/12/2020 9:03:51 AM | Rosetta@home | Project requested delay of 31 seconds
6/12/2020 9:04:28 AM | Rosetta@home | Project requested delay of 31 seconds

Is there something I could change? Or should I just ignore this?

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Message 97346 - Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 21:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 97344.  

That's the normal project scheduler countdown interval between contacts. Ignore it.
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Message 97350 - Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 4:15:11 UTC - in response to Message 97346.  

Thanks. I hadn't noticed it before.

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