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doug Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 12 Credit: 2,054,041 RAC: 346 |
Hi, As of right now, the "Rosetta" application, while having no new tasks, is showing 13,577 tasks in progress, with 829 users in the last 24 hours. How can that be? AFAICT, I haven't gotten a Rosetta task of any kind in weeks. How are people getting these tasks? On my machine, the Rosetta project is set to a Resource Share of 150. It is not set to "won't get new tasks". What am I doing wrong? Thanks. |
Grant (SSSF)Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1934 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0 |
How are people getting these tasks?Requesting work when it is available. What am I doing wrong?Check your event log that your system is actually requesting work. Make sure you're not getting any "Feeder not running" messages when requesting work- if so you need to disable IPv6, or edit your hosts file as per the many, many, many posts in the Number Crunching threads. Even then, if you don't request work at just the right time (occasionally a period of just a couple of hours, more often 30min or less), then you won't get any. Grant Darwin NT |
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2582 Credit: 47,220,881 RAC: 260 |
Hi, You're doing nothing wrong - infuriating, isn't it. With the number of people who're still here, people are capable of downloading 200k tasks per day - possibly more, seeing as we're all running with few tasks and hefty debt to Rosetta. So when 5 or 10k become available, they get swallowed up by whoever happens to be polling at that moment. Truth is, some tasks get released every day, just too small a number to be noticeable. You just have to be lucky. I have 3 PCs and 2 phones connected, so I've been a bit luckier than you with your 1 PC recently, but I've had long periods with nothing too
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doug Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 12 Credit: 2,054,041 RAC: 346 |
I just made (3/28/2026 11:20:46 am EDT) a manual update for Rosetta, then checked the log. No errors, though of course there's no tasks available now (not sure if that makes a difference - I wouldn't think so, but...). I did notice that there has been no Rosetta requests since the log was cleared early this morning at 3/28/2026 04:12:31 am EDT. That seems... wrong. I should have massive "debt" here, so shouldn't BOINC be making more requests, not... none? Would it help BOINC to make requests more often if I increased the Rosetta resource share from 150 to, say, 250, or 350 or similar? You all are saying "make requests when task are available", but how do you do that without constantly watching the computer screen (which I can't do)? Or using some kind of command prompt macro that hammers the server every second or whatever, which I'm definitely not going to do (I do try to be a good BOINC citizen here). The forums here are a treasure. Thanks for the help and suggestions. |
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doug Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 12 Credit: 2,054,041 RAC: 346 |
I just made (3/28/2026 11:20:46 am EDT) a manual update for Rosetta, then checked the log. No errors, though of course there's no tasks available now (not sure if that makes a difference - I wouldn't think so, but...). I did notice that there has been no Rosetta requests since the log was cleared early this morning at 3/28/2026 04:12:31 am EDT. That seems... wrong. I should have massive "debt" here, so shouldn't BOINC be making more requests, not... none? Would it help BOINC to make requests more often if I increased the Rosetta resource share from 150 to, say, 250, or 350 or similar? You all are saying "make requests when task are available", but how do you do that without constantly watching the computer screen (which I can't do)? Or using some kind of command prompt macro that hammers the server every second or whatever, which I'm definitely not going to do (I do try to be a good BOINC citizen here). The forums here are a treasure. Thanks for the help and suggestions. |
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doug Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 12 Credit: 2,054,041 RAC: 346 |
Sorry about the double post - for some reason the page didn't refresh, so I thought it hadn't posted. My bad - maybe an admin can delete the duplicate post? Again, sorry. |
Grant (SSSF)Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1934 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0 |
Would it help BOINC to make requests more often if I increased the Rosetta resource share from 150 to, say, 250, or 350 or similar?Nope. Resource share is about the balance of of work being done between projects. It has no effect as such on how often BOINC will request new work. When BOINC requests work, and can't get any, it increases the back-off time until it asks again. Each time it tries and fails, the back-off increases (i can't remember if the maximum is 24 or 48 hours). The back-off then resets, and it starts all over again. The idea is that if BOINC can't get work, there's no point in asking for it every few seconds or minutes- particularly if the problem is the servers or network are overloaded as it just makes things worse. Grant Darwin NT |
DingoSend message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 15 Credit: 4,850,357 RAC: 7 |
Is there a problem with Rosetta work units? There never seems to be any ? Maybe a News or Technical News update to keep us minions informed. |
Grant (SSSF)Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1934 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0 |
Is there a problem with Rosetta work units? There never seems to be any ?For a year or two now, thewre have only been occasional bacthes of work released, many of them very small, but even the larger batches get picked up quickly. If you request work when it's available, you'll get it, but the timing has to be good because often it's all gone in less than an hour, and then it's even more difficult to pickup resends when they become available. Maybe a News or Technical News update to keep us minions informed.Apart from one very brief period, there has been no communication from the project for several years. Grant Darwin NT |
[VENETO] bobovizSend message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 2189 Credit: 13,720,774 RAC: 2,598 |
Maybe a News or Technical News update to keep us minions informed.Apart from one very brief period, there has been no communication from the project for several years. We're happy to be cited in recent scientific publications We thank Michael Weim, Luki Goldschmidt, Rocco Moretti, and Sergey Lyskov for support with Rosetta and Rosetta@home; members of the Baker lab and the SD2 consortium for sharing computational design models and data files and for useful discussions, especially Chris Norn and Jedediah Singer; UW BIOFAB technicians; and members of the public who donate their computer time to Rosetta@home.. It's not much, but it's better than nothing. |
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