Posts by Snake Doctor

41) Message boards : Number crunching : Work Units that fail in under one minute - Report HERE (Message 13379)
Posted 10 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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All my windows boxes both Winxp Pro and Home are failing on FARELAX_NOFILTERS and HBLR etc etc. The Linux boxes are working fine, they are all one version or another of Fedora Core up to 4. This is since version 4.97 was installed. Using BOINC 5.2.13



4.98 is the latest version for Rosetta. You are dealing with a know problem. You need to update your project.
42) Message boards : Number crunching : Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II (Message 13378)
Posted 10 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Work unit aborted at 1.04% - CPU time used ~16 hours 30 minutes.

WU Name "FA_RLXpt_hom004_1ptq__361_478_1" - Application "rosetta 4.83"
Workunit = 11845498; Result ID = 16262949; System = AMD AXP 2400+, Win-XP SP 2

The workunit still reports "in progress" at the time of writing this message.
The workunit was aborted manually ("Aborted via GUI RPC").



The FA_Rlx Workunits take a long time to complete a single model, usually over 4 hours. During that time they will only show 1.xx% complete. You should not be aborting them just because they take a while to run.
43) Questions and Answers : Getting started : getting started (Message 13214)
Posted 8 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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You can contact the Moderators in the Cafe Forum in the Moderators contact thread, or you can send an e-mail to the Moderator contact e-mail. The Moderator e-mail address is listed in the FAQs on the number crunching Forum.
44) Questions and Answers : Windows : More WUs in account info than in BOINC Manager (Message 13213)
Posted 8 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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You may have had a download problem for a few Work units. Or these could be ghost work Units. This happens sometimes. It does not hurt anything unless you get a lot of them.
45) Questions and Answers : Windows : Trying to attach Rosetta to BOINC (Message 13212)
Posted 8 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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the previous post is good information but since you are pasting the address, make certain there is not a space in front of the address after you paste it in. This happens sometimes and it will prevent you from contacting the server.

Regards
Phil
46) Questions and Answers : Windows : "No schedulers responded" (Message 13211)
Posted 8 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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It looks like you have detached from the project. You might want to try attaching again and let the computer run for a while. It will hit the server until it connects and gets some Work units by itself, you do not have to update or reset to get data unless there is something wrong. But it can take a while before it gets work. If you get a lot of type 500 errors over a period of time then I would begin to think you had a problem.
47) Message boards : Number crunching : How much of the memory req. is for the graphics? (Message 13209)
Posted 8 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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... and *I* am not using it, so perhaps it could be eliminated. Or put a button on the graphic to start logging it when you want to.


Some of the rest of us are using it. Putting a button on the graphic won't work if you want to display the screen saver. There would have to be something added to the prefs to accomplish what you are asking for. The system has to keep track of all that data to proceed with the processing anyway. Displaying it adds only to the use of graphic diplay memory use on the display card, not the use of main memory.

Regards
Phil
48) Questions and Answers : Web site : No merge option? (Message 13028)
Posted 4 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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The merge option was causing server problems, and it has been temporarily turned off. There is an item in the news linked off the home page about this. There is also some chatter in the number crunching forum on this issue. It is expected to be turned on again in a few weeks when they upgrade the server with the fix for the problem.

Regards
Phil
49) Questions and Answers : Windows : I have been completely "disconnected" from all ny projects. (Message 13027)
Posted 4 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Try resetting the project in the projects tab if you haven't a;ready. If you have tried that and it does not work, then you could try detaching and reattaching.

A detach and reattach will not cause you to loose any credits or your account data, but it will reestablish your connection.

Be certain you have all the correct info for the project before you de-attach. You will need the correct project address, your e-mail address, and password. If you do not have the password be certain the have the project ID code. If you don't have all that you can get the server to send it to you via e-mail. When you reattach everything should get refreshed.

Regards
Phil
50) Message boards : Number crunching : RAC cheats, is this a problem (Message 13026)
Posted 4 Apr 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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James wrote

Mod, you are twisting this a bit. Regardless of an 'opimized' client a project can calibrate the claimed credits - look no further than einstein@home. They most definately adjust the credits to get rid of the use of inflated benchmarks.

As for the somewhat weak claim that people are merely doing this because boinc doesn't fully utilize their resources (which is the essence of your claim) that is a boinc issue and not a system issue. I know for a fact that AMDs are supported poorly in BOINC compilations in general. That doesn't mean I 'deserve' more credits.

Yes, the source code has been released to the public. Perhaps you should also note that the client doesn't crunch the WUs - the Rosetta application does. It has nothing to do with the project other than to enable Rosetta's app to run and to manage preferences. Rosetta controls the project and has chosen NOT to release their source (unlike SETI where optimization can occur) and has chosen NOT to offer system specific compilations to maximize cpu efficiency.

Which is neither here nor there. RAC cheating is an issue in that it seems to be a vanity issue where people feel the need to be in the 'top computer' section. Given that the run times of these WUs are known it's not exactly like you can't figure out how to adjust credits - Einstein has.


I guess one good twist deserves a solid fast spin.
51) Questions and Answers : Preferences : no new downloads ???????? (Message 12706)
Posted 26 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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52) Questions and Answers : Windows : manager not connected to client (Message 12705)
Posted 25 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Check to make certain that in the BOINC manaager in the "Commands" menu you have "Network activity allways available" checked.

What version of BOINC Manager are you using?


"Network activity allways available" as it used to be. Problem stays.
Using BOINC version 5.2.13 on Windows XP SP1, also using ADSL connection over router, if it matters...


Based on the info you have provided the problem is internal to your system. The information that there is a loop back connection that is used by BOINC is correct. It uses two specific ports for this purpose. Right off hand I can't remember which two, but I do know that one of those ports which was reserved for BOINC has recently been used by windows. Because of that BOINC now uses different ports. There is document in the unofficial BOINC WIKI about this issue and how to fix it.

Regards
Phil
53) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Moderators looking for MORE power (Message 12334)
Posted 20 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Your profile says you are from the Pitcairn Islands. The last time I checked, there were about 50 people living there, it had almost no phone service, no air strip, was under British rule, and it was administered from New Zealand. So you have no constitutional right to free speech for project mods to trample anyway.


This is the Guantanamo attitude: the US claims that nobody except US citizens have constitutional rights.

... but please don't assume that the American way is the only way and that no other way even exists. When you do assume that, us aliens will (no doubt unfairly) think you are being somewhat biased, especially when you ignore facts you can get from your own intelligence agency's website.

River~~

edits: added link to CIA website


You missed the point entirely.

And while completely irrelevant to this conversation, civilian combatants who are not part of an organized army, captured waging war in a foreign country, and never brought to American soil, may have rights under the Geneva convention (even that is not clear), but they are not mentioned in the US constitution, any more than a Canadian in Canada, or a citizen in Pitcarin Islands. who never seta foot in American soil. We extent some protections to citizens of other countries in their dealing with the US, but not all of those guaranteed to persons or citizens on American soil.
54) Message boards : Number crunching : screensaver crashes (Message 12299)
Posted 19 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Is there a way of disabling the screensaver for this project only? as it seems unstable on this computer (182163). I like to be able to see what my computer's working on for the 5 mins my screensaver's on so don't want to disable the BOINC ss entirely just disable the rosetta one.


I think that BOINC will display the screen saver for any program that has graphics. But the actual graphics are part of the application. So if you turn on eht screen saver it is an all or nothing kind of thing. At least on the Mac there does not seem to be any separate file for each applications screen saver function, just the Boinc screen saver.

But maybe one of the windose guys has a different take on it.

Regards
Phil
55) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : How can we bring more users to the Rosetta project? (Message 12297)
Posted 19 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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if someone could get dr. baker to sit still long enough to make up a podcast it could be sent to

the podcast directory

NPR public radio

and

apple...itunes

all will list them for free and i'm willing to buy them the garage band software if they have a mac available.



If they will shoot it on any kind of video camera, I can edit and convert it to what ever format they want, including podcast (and I have the Mac and the software).

Regards
Phil
56) Message boards : Number crunching : Help us solve the 1% bug! (Message 12291)
Posted 19 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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I don't mind an occasional error, but I do have a few issues

1) Why restart a unit that already overran time? I happened to notice this message in the log. I don't see how I get credit for the restart, as the CPU time is zeroed, and no additional communications happens with R@H.
...


If you abort a WU, the number of WUs available to your system for downloading decreases. If you abort a lot of them before you start returning successes you could force the server to stop sending you any work. If you restart the WU, while it may not give you the full credit based on the "hang" time, it will return some credit if it runs and it will not reduce your download possibilities.

Regards
Phil
57) Questions and Answers : Windows : Hard Drive Alway Spinning (Message 12288)
Posted 19 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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I changed the default to only be every 300 seconds, but this didn't seem to help - the hard drive was still spinning continuously. I looked and asked around, but I wasn't able to find anyway to change a parameter to reduce disk usage.

Is there some way to force the program to only reside in memory and not use virtual memory/writing to the disk? (I tried turning Virtual memory off entirely, but then Windows starts giving me errors).

Any suggestions/solutions? This seems like a pretty major flaw in the software so I'm hopeful that there is a solution to be found.

Thanks!

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There is a parameter in your user preferences page that you can set for how often your system will write to the disk drive. The default is every 60 seconds. If you make that less frequent that should help. If you are running laptops, you can also set a parameter on your computer to reduce disk usage.



How much RAM does your system have? If it is low on RAM it will have to use Virtual memory. If you set the system for energy savings instead of performance it will turn the disk drive off whenever it can.
58) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Moderators looking for MORE power (Message 12244)
Posted 19 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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You act like it was a Rosetta request. It obviously is not so why post it here.


How do you know that? You're guessing based on a third party reference to actions of a moderator at CPDN.

Do you know for sure that "Arnaud" is NOT Moderator9 or one of his/her cohorts?

Will they categorically deny it? Or own up to it? I doubt it.

Regardless, it is VERY bad form for a moderator of ANY BOINC forum to publically refer to their users as "out-of-their-mind" or "crazier". It would get someone fired in real life.

Well lets take a look at the wording of the message itself -
Hi,

Moderators really need the following functions in the Boinc forums:

1) Possibility to move entire threads, not only isolated messages. (One
of the BBC moderator moved 72 messages, because there is no possibility
to move entire threads: She didn't want to delete the whole thread)
2) Possibility to lock some overheated threads.
3) Possibility to ban/lock some "out of their mind" users, temporarily
or definitively, of a forum.
3 bis) Or to filter some "out of their mind" users so that usual users
don't see their raving messages: it's too much time-consuming for
moderators to watch all the messages of the weirdos and to
edit/delete/move these messages (and the crazier, to more they write :o))
4) Possibility to see the email address or to send a PM to discuss
before moderating (IMO, censorship/moderation is the ultimate reaction
to have: I prefer to talk and explain before acting like a cop)

Thanks for thinking about these suggestions....
I think 1) and 2) are the most important to implement.

Regards,
Arnaud


When I look at this I see an example of a problem from a mod on the BBC project. That means CPDN. I also see it is a woman that had the problem, and that the message is also written by a mod. I see no mention of rosy, but I do not suffer from your paranoia regarding the mods here. Now I also see that the message appears to be from someone who may not have english as a first language. The mods here seem to have a fair grasp on english when you read their posts. But I suppose they might try to make their messages look like that so we would not suspect that they wrote them.

I can understand how you might think that post is all about you, and some of the references to the type of people they deal with might hit very close to home for you, but frankly the world does not revolve around you. So the idea that mods use secret identities to post ideas to get you on the boinc web is a very long reach. I would agree that if implemented, the requested functions would impact you long before any of the rest of us. But that is your own fault. Despite your claims that the mods are biased against you, you make your own problems with them. If you leave them alone they will leave you alone. The rest of us have no fear of them at all, or any of the suggested changes I see in that post. It simply will not bother most of us.

I can't see what you are so worked up about anyway. Your profile says you are from the Pitcairn Islands. The last time I checked, there were about 50 people living there, it had almost no phone service, no air strip, was under British rule, and it was administered from New Zealand. So you have no constitutional right to free speech for project mods to trample anyway.

Now of course if you are not from Pitcairn Islands as indicated in your profile, then your credibility falls into serious question. Then I might wonder what you are concealing by hiding your systems from the larger user community. Under those terms you are hardly in a position to demand that anyone else either claim or disclaim anything, or accuse anyone of hiding their true identity. As a person who is concealing his actual location and the nature of his involvement in the project, you are hardly in a position to demand others be forth comming with you.

From my point of view mods don't have to answer to you, me, or anyone else, beyond the owner of the forums they serve, and they certainly don't owe you or anyone else an explanation for posting at another site under any identity they may choose. There is no evidence that any of the mods here are even aware of that posting, beyond your claims, which I can see from your message are based solely on your paranoid obsession with mod9. So where is the proof that any mod from this project posted that message? Where is your proof that mod9's secret identity is "Arnaud"? Did you even think to simply ask Arnaud who he is at the boinc dev site? Did you look for the ID "Arnaud" here or any where else?

By the way, I thought you said you were leaving rosy. Oh yea I forgot, you have a credibility problem, sorry.

EDIT:
What a surprise! It took less than 3 mins to find this profile for moderator "Arnaud" located in Paris France on the BBC CPDN web site. I think you owe every mod on this project an apology for your false accusations.
59) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Moderators looking for MORE power (Message 12215)
Posted 18 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Moderator request on BOINC dev list

Banning or blocking users = prior censorship

Releasing private user information to "outsiders" = REALLY bad privacy policy.


Big deal, so some BBC/CPDN moderator made a request for some tools to help moderate their forums. You act like it was a Rosetta request. It obviously is not so why post it here. You should lodge your complait with the BBC/CPDN project. Besides, some of that looks like a good idea, and the rest will not likely be done.

Of course I can see why you might be concerned. My guess is you have ben posting on the BBC/CPDN Forums. But most of the rest of us will not be affected.
60) Questions and Answers : Windows : Hard Drive Alway Spinning (Message 12105)
Posted 16 Mar 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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There is a parameter in your user preferences page that you can set for how often your system will write to the disk drive. The default is every 60 seconds. If you make that less frequent that should help. If you are running laptops, you can also set a parameter on your computer to reduce disk usage.


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