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Rosetta@home Science :
CASP6 revisited.
(Message 15652)
Posted 7 May 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: I see we are crunching some of the CASP6 proteins again. I was wondering, with the improvements made in the interim, how todays Rosetta results compare to the CASP6 Rosetta at that time? That would be interesting to see. It would alos be interesting to know for those predictions that were close in CASP6, how many models had to be done verses using todays Rosetta application. |
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Rosetta@home Science :
Rosetta@home page at Wikipedia
(Message 15651)
Posted 7 May 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: Today I've added some minor stuff You might want to port some of your changes to the Unofficial BOINC wiki. I would be surprised if that is current. That links from the project front page and should be checked for errors. |
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Rosetta@home Science :
CASP7 to start in April
(Message 15650)
Posted 7 May 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: could they not pick any hotter months of the year for this? how many of us shut down during the summer, or at least know people that do? just plain stupid. rosetta did not pick the dates for this. It is done by international agreement. Probably since most of the research is done at universities, they pick the summer because the research teams are not busy teaching at that time. |
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Number crunching :
Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.07
(Message 15649)
Posted 7 May 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: All three on Mac OS 10.4.6, Dual G4, 1 GB memory. BOINC Ver 5.4.9, Rosetta 5.07. AB_CASP6_t272__486_1242_0 - this WU Was killed by watchdog. HBLR_1.0_1dtj_RDFLAGS_473_8871_0 - this WU failed almost on arrival. HBLR_1.0_1mky_ROT_TRIALS_TRIE_CHECKPOINTS_482_7412_0 - This Wu Failed almost on arrival. |
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Number crunching :
Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.07
(Message 15631)
Posted 6 May 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: Well I don't get many errors but I have two within just a few moments of each other. Mac g4 Dual, 1GB of memory. It looked like BOINC tried to start running them before they finished downloading. here and here the errors were both - <core_client_version>5.4.9</core_client_version> <message> Couldn't start or resume: -146 </message> |
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Questions and Answers :
Wish list :
Adjustable Size "Buttons"
(Message 15598)
Posted 6 May 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: this is a BOINC issue not a Rosetta issue. Perhaps you should post it on the BOINC forums. Regards Phil |
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Rosetta@home Science :
10 reasons I crunch R@H and you should too
(Message 15411)
Posted 3 May 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: There are a lot of very good reasons for anyone to install BOINC and run Rosetta@home. Besides simply being the best project in the current group of BOINC distributed computing projects, My list would include (in no particular order)-
2) The possibility of discovering new ways to treat serious illness 3) Advance the general level of human knowledge 4) Assist in the development of distributed computing and new computing tools applicable to a broad range of research 5) Increase my own personal knowledge and understanding of biological science 6) The communication and information flow between the project team and the user community is better at Rosetta than any other project 7) The project is "alive", and new information is posted all the time to keep people informed about how their computers are being used and where the project is going. 8) The projects willingness to incorporate user ideas into the project and their responsiveness to users requesting help in the forums 9) The opportunity to participate in creating the next version of the software by running RALPH@home along side of Rosetta@home. 10) The project site and Forums are not so different form other BOINC projects that users can't find what they need
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Rosetta@home Science :
Discussion - Reasons to run Rosetta@Home
(Message 14961)
Posted 29 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: Why Rosetta gets my crunch time: Perhaps a periodic news item that reads like a an interview with a rosetta user. The prople could be picked by the project at random to provide comments on the project, that would be posted in the News line on the fornt page. That feed goes out to all the teams. |
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Rosetta@home Science :
Concerns: Will someone (i.e. BigPharma) make money out of my CPU time?
(Message 14747)
Posted 27 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: Drug companies can patent more than just the active element in a product. The inerts and other things in the product make for a unique formulation that is what gets patented. So just because the active element is public, does not mean that they would not be able to make, patent, and profit from a particular product. Aspirin is a perfect example. The stuff can be found in the bark of willow trees, but companies seem to make a wide variety of aspirin based products, and do so at a profit. Regards Phil |
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Questions and Answers :
Preferences :
General Preferences: Doesn't obey max up/down rates
(Message 14568)
Posted 25 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: I also have a similar issue wher I have set in the preferences to hide the computers and they are still shown in my profile. It seem the website doesn't obey the program settings very well. Maybe the management should contact SETI@Home or one of the other larger projects for some technical assistance before I yank the program from my PC's for security reasons. As to the original question. You also have to set your local BOINC Maneger to "Run Based On Preferences". If you fail to do that it will ignore your preferences. As to the display computers. You will always be able to view your own computers. The hide function keeps OTHER USERS from viewing them (though I don't know why anyone would want to do that other people cannot help you if they cant see your computers) So the only way for you to test if they can be seen would be to go to somplace like BOINCSynergy stats site, register, add this project into you preferences there and see if your computers are shown as hidden when it updates your stats. Or you could just take my word for the fact that when I try to look at your computers they are in fact hidden. So the server is working just fine. |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
can upload only to 16.73kb
(Message 14567)
Posted 25 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: Does the system download ok? It looks like it might be dropping the connection somehow. |
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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
Team Jesus
(Message 14339)
Posted 22 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: You mean some topics have exlamation marks next to them? Actually the exclamation marks are the ones that float up the listing based on users voting this up using the rating icons at the bottom of each post. The stickies are always at the top of the forum pages and have a different icon. |
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Cafe Rosetta :
Personal Milestones
(Message 14338)
Posted 22 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: I can see 100,000 looking VERY large in the windshield It won't be long now. Less than 400 to go. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II
(Message 14267)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: ANother HUGE ammount of CPU time wasted!!!! ... Jose, Your time is not wasted. Look at This post. From this statement the results are used and you will be granted credit. So perhaps not so much ARGH but more like AHHH! Regards Phil |
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Questions and Answers :
Wish list :
Merge computers in view list...
(Message 14233)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: Currently the merge function is turned off. It is expected it will be turned on again in a few weeks. Merging was causing some problems with server performance. It is a BOINC issue and there is a fix coming. Regards Phil |
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Rosetta@home Science :
rosetta client changelogs?
(Message 14221)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: I believe you must be looking at a WU from Ralph (the beta test of each upcoming Rosetta release). There is some info on the boards there. Great stuff coming! No "XS" is right Rosy just went to 5.01!! Great news for the Windoze folks (sorry Mac guy). So now maybe we can get down and crunch some serious proteins. I have never seen a Release log for Rosy, but it would be a VERY nice and welcome addition. A lot of people would like to know what is going on when they get a new release. Regards Phil |
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Number crunching :
Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II
(Message 14157)
Posted 20 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: As a personal asside I might point out that the usefulness of your posting is directly related to the information you provide concerning the problem. Could you at least provide a link to the result ID so the problem can be examined?[/color][/b] What is unfair is for people to bash the developers and the people who are trying to help you and others with the issues. The errors are frustrating for everyone most of all the project people. While I am sure it may be difficult for you to manage certain aspects of your farm if things aren't perfect, you built the farm. The work and expense is just part of what is required if you plan to run it. While you have made it very clear that the 30 or so credits you may have lost on this WU should be the single most important thing in the universe to the project, just try to get ANY of the credits for a failed work unit on ANY of the other projects. (and yes ALL projects have failed WUs) The Rosy people are doing what they can on the credit issue, and it is a lot more than what you get from other venues. But there are other things going on right now, so they only do it once a week. Why don't you just post the error, with sufficient information to help them fix the problem without all the bashing of the project people. It has already been explained that BOINC does not allow the project to remove WUs from your system and why. The only project that does this at all is CPDN and they are using a highly modified version of the BOINC client to do it. This project uses the standard BOINC package for everything, including the results pages. If you are having a problem with BOINC you should post the issue on the BOINC development site. As for looking up the links to your results, have you tried bookmarking a separate page in your browser for each machine? It is very easy to do. That way you can isolate the results by machine, and monitor them individually if something comes up. That should help you find things. Also, if you reduce your connection interval and increase your time setting you will have fewer WUs to look through. |
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Cafe Rosetta :
Moderator contact thread archive
(Message 13991)
Posted 18 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post:
"Misfit" It occurs to me that this sort of thing might be handled better by using the mod9 e-mail contact. Especially since, as was noted, the wanky ID has not even posted here. If what you say is true, this sort of discussion will only serve to provide yet another opportunity for a flame war. In my experience with his posting, he does not need much encouragement to set him off, and he certainly does not need to be provided the opportunity that this discussion provides him to spout off. From what I have seen, the Mods probably already know there is a problem anyway. Note his thread attacking the Rosie Mods for some supposed power grab, when in fact it was a CPDN mod. |
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Rosetta@home Science :
Information on Rosetta@home for the BBC
(Message 13861)
Posted 15 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: The thing that puts people off of CPDN most has nothing to do with downloads, uploads or bandwidth. The problem with CPDN is the level of dedication it requires. To complete a single model requires at least a month on a fast dedicated machine. Moreover, the models fail frequently, and do so after people have spend hundreds of hours running them. Most of the discussions on forums and Team sites from people who have left CPDN mention specifically the failing model wasting their CPU time as the reason they left the project. Personally I left when they decided not to support Mac platforms. For me this was a matter of principal. I have a number Windows machines available to me and could apply them to any project, but I will not support a project that does not support the standard platforms supported by BOINC. I think we can assume that people who sign up for BOINC projects have already demonstrated a level of commitment to the concept of DC. Part of that commitment is downloading the project and the WUs. While the landing page might mention the bandwidth required to load and run the project, I would not make a big deal out of that. If people connect and later find that the bandwidth requirement is beyond their level of commitment, then they have the option of disconnecting. The Rosetta time setting if properly used can reduce the loading of WUs to a factor far less than other BOINC projects when measured over time. I say invite the people in and let them decide if they want to stay. The big issue the project needs to worry about is fixing the last of the bugs, not compressing files. Most people will run the application if it will run without errors. |
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Number crunching :
Odd wu/wu behaviour?
(Message 13706)
Posted 14 Apr 2006 by Snake Doctor Post: 17128664 seemed to be going wrong. It was still under 2% finished after more then an hour of crunching. It was moving, because I'd noticed it at 1.87% and later saw it had crawled to 1.9%, so not a 1% issue. That is the correct answer. |
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