Posts by Snake Doctor

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Project File Upload Handler Is Missing (Message 69062)
Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Well the following messages are a new twist in this problem.


Sun Jan 9 08:41:17 2011 rosetta@home update requested by user
Sun Jan 9 08:41:17 2011 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Sun Jan 9 08:41:17 2011 rosetta@home Reporting 2 completed tasks, requesting new tasks
Sun Jan 9 08:41:18 2011 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Jan 9 08:41:18 2011 rosetta@home Message from server: platform 'x86_64-apple-darwin' not found


And like the rest of you my upload queue is full of completed work.

Regards
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Project File Upload Handler Is Missing (Message 69061)
Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Well the following messages are a new twist in this problem.


Sun Jan 9 08:41:17 2011 rosetta@home update requested by user
Sun Jan 9 08:41:17 2011 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Sun Jan 9 08:41:17 2011 rosetta@home Reporting 2 completed tasks, requesting new tasks
Sun Jan 9 08:41:18 2011 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Jan 9 08:41:18 2011 rosetta@home Message from server: platform 'x86_64-apple-darwin' not found


And like the rest of you my upload queue is full of completed work.

Regards
3) Message boards : Number crunching : MAC PowerPC - There was work for other platforms (Message 55612)
Posted 8 Sep 2008 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Hmmm...

The only problem is the OS, since you are using an Intel CPU.

Hopefully this works out for you Mac people :)

Cheers

Actually, no. I have one intel machine and the rest are PowerPC, so it is not just the OS. I also have a few Windoze machines but they are not as fast as the Macs.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : MAC PowerPC - There was work for other platforms (Message 55592)
Posted 7 Sep 2008 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Well it is a same that Rosetta has decided to abandon the Mac community. If you look at the stats Mac are major contributors to the project. The credits produced per CPU by Mac machines is an impressive number, especially when you consider that none of this software is designed to take full advantage of the capabilities of the Mac architecture. I have over a million Rosetta credits, I am among the top users on Ralph, and now I have to go look for something else to crunch?

It is even more annoying that the project team has not even responded to this thread. Kind of tells Mac folks where they stand on the project.

Regards
5) Message boards : Number crunching : MAC PowerPC - There was work for other platforms (Message 55564)
Posted 5 Sep 2008 by Profile Snake Doctor
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For at least the past 5 days all of my power PC based Mac computers have been getting no work from the project. Whenever they request work they just get the message "There was work for other platforms".

Does the project no longer support Power PC based Macs? I have 5 of these actively crunching for the project, and another 4 waiting to come on line.

Regards
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Mac Pro, 8 cores (Message 51807)
Posted 5 Mar 2008 by Profile Snake Doctor
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So I bought a Mac Pro, 8 Xeon Penryn cores at 2.8ghz each.

Within a couple of weeks, I'll have crunched more for Rosetta with it than with my other computers in the past couple of years.

Ah! Technology!

Am also excited about the new version of Rosetta (mini). Hopefully this will mean even better science and an easier time optimizing the software (SSEx, PS3, etc).


If you like the 2,8, You should see the 3.0GHz go.

Regards
7) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Screen saver won't go away (Message 18584)
Posted 13 Jun 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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I have three dual Mac running the project and on one occasion I had the system act as you describe, but it was not two versions of the screen saver that caused the problem. In my case I had to manually shut down the system. After restart I have not seen the problem since.

Usually the system will alternate between screen savers by application, but I have never been able to make it run two versions at once, or more than one version for a particular application.
8) Questions and Answers : Web site : Computation erroe (Message 18583)
Posted 13 Jun 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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I am getting many computation error messages (At least 40 + over the last 3 months) while computing your data. Is it my computer or your formulas???


40 errors over three months is not really all that many. Have you looked to see what the results says is the error? Have you been reporting them in the reporting threads on the Message boards?
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.22 (Message 18580)
Posted 13 Jun 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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This work unit looks very strange in the graphics. Parts of the protein do not appear to be connected to the rest of it. It's like some of its missing. The protein appears very small. I first noticed the problem when I saw that the work unit is only using 20Mb memory and ~70Mb virtual but has nearly 9 million page faults. Assuming it was a small protein I took a look at the graphics and noticed the disjointed parts. Any ideas? I'll let it continue for now (5 hours into an 8 hour work unit)

If you would like me to screen shot it please let me know the best dimensions for posting into the forum as I have nowhere to upload it to.

Cheers
Stwato

this is a known problem with a few of the processing techniques being used. Not all the work units are using the same processing approach. In some cases they are only looking at parts of the protein structure and that somehow affects the display.
10) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Ethical Questions/Potential for Misuse/Exploitation. (Message 18511)
Posted 12 Jun 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere, so please forgive the nature of the inquiry.

What is the potential for misuse, exploitation, and downright unethical use of the work and results we are contributing to here, and also over at the Rosetta Commons??? Be it Big Pharmacy, Biological Weapons designers, or mind control freaks like the late,and very scarey, Dr. Jose Delgado???
And what's to stop a person, like biological weapons designers, or someone like Delgado, from setting up a project that uses BOINC, lies about what the research is really for, and gets alot of people to unknowingly donate computer processing time to weapons design or psychological control experiments????

I think these are valid questions and I hope anyone that reads this gives it a little thought.


This was discussed before in This thread.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this possible? 71,399 in one day (Message 18170)
Posted 8 Jun 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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If someone has 7 computers, is it possible to get 71,399 credits in one day? (Let's assume he doesn't have 7 super computers in his basement)

I was looking at other people's stats that joined on the same day, and the top person is getting 71,399 a day.

This actually is possible if a person connects a single compute to the project and uses it to feed other computers by moving the work units around. They could be processed by a large number of "backroom" systems and then placed back on the attached system for upload. This would give the impression that a single system had done all the work, when in fact the results could have been created by any number of systems, that are invisible to the server.

But In this case I see you may have misread the stats for the number of actual systems involved.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Attempted Hacking??? (Message 18165)
Posted 8 Jun 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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No pets. And my mouse is trackball optical.(I hate having to move around regular mice.) As far as my start page, Yahoo news is my own preferred setting(Even thought Yahoo sucks and helped China track down a few people for voicing their opinions).And since they get their new mostly from the Associated Press anyway, I should make the AP my start page. The only problem I ever have with start pages it the stupid IE keeps wanting to open up to microsoft update even though Yahoo news is my default start page.
Finding the browser open didn't really bother me, but having the BOINC client locked out and give me an "incorrect password" message made me think that somthing was fishy. I would just as soon let the Boinc run and the internet connection shut off, it is a low speed,256k, connection, but the Boinc doesn't seem to like to work without an internet connection. Oh well. And thank you to everyone for responding.

Ohh, and this free version of Bit defender is finding infected stuff. So thanks for the heads up on better virus software. But I do like some of the features of of Norton Internet Security. Like the Parental Controls for internet site viewing. Their are things that I like to keep my kids, away from online.


It sounds as though someone may have tried to use the remote monitoring feature of BOINC on your system. THis can be activated by use of the "Select Computer" option from the "Advanced" menu in BOINC version 5.4.9. If the person does not have the correct password, they would get the error message you describe, and it would leave the computer disconnected from the "Local Host". But it would have to have been activated from your computer. You can tell if the computer is disconnected from the local host by looking in the lower right corner of the BOINC Manager window. It will say one of three things

1) Disconnected
2) Connected to localhost (normal operating mode)
3) Connected to XXXXX (where XXXXX is another system)

There is a password required to use this feature. It is there for "Farmers" who want to monitor and control many systems from one computer.

In any case, if the manager is "Disconnected" the task window will appear as empty, as will all other tabs except the Message window.

Usually you can reestablish the connection by use of the "Advanced" menu Select computer option. Failing that shutting down BOINC and restarting it will cause a reconnect.

Your browser could have been loaded from the Project window in the BOINC manager, if someone had managed to make a remote connection. There is a way to prevent even an attempt to use remote control by creating a file that in effect locks out that feature in your BOINC Files directory. There is a lot more about all this in the BOINC WIKI.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Merge Computers (Message 17331)
Posted 30 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Bump... No replies? Ralph has this feature!


What do you mean no replies? They have told you a thousand times what is going on with this. Everyone from the forum moderators to the project lead scientist, has given you an answer. For some reason you simply won't take "As soon as we can" as an answer.

Get real. They are not going to do any thing that could corrupt the data base in the middle of CASP, and that is it. Get over it. Bumping this thread every few days is not going to change anything.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Just a heads up for you folks. (Message 17185)
Posted 26 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Did anyone bother to tell FreeDC that they were in a competition? It does not look like they have ramped up any yet. The team RAC has not gone up very much. It looks like they will be overtaken in a few weeks if they don't move to defend.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Downloading Work Units (Message 16618)
Posted 19 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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The more units I can have to process, the less times I have to dialup to get more.. I am on dialup and it cost me everytime I dial...

So whats the best settings to have?

The time setting was invented just for modem people. Figure you can run a single WU for up to 24 hours, I see in the science forum that the WUs just got smaller so that will help your download already.

But the trick would be to get 6 WUs and run them each 24 hours. Then you would only have to connect once a week. You will have to play with it to see what setting gives you what you need. I think you can adjust the time setting after you download so you can play with the connect time until you have what you need and then set the time for for processing.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.13 (Message 16361)
Posted 16 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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I Have a few -

    BOINC 5.4.9, Rosetta 5.13
    GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
    Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
    Memory 2039.37 MB
    cash 76.56 KB
    swap space 932.3 MB
    65.54 GB



resultid=20299415 -<error_code>-161</error_code> </file_xfer_error>
resultid=20402395 - exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)
resultid=20419239 - Maximum disk usage exceeded

The machine is also running ralph

Regards
Phil

17) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Rosetta video/outreach project (Message 16143)
Posted 13 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Well, It is hard to offer critical commentary with some tact but I will try. I shoot and edit a lot of video myself, so rather than focus on the content let me discuss the video itself.

While I like the backdrop you selected and the informality of the speakers, you need to have some front lighting with that much backlight.

The audio suffers from echo in the room, but you can take some of that out in post, enough to be acceptable. this would not be as big an issue if the speech was slower, but you are almost better off not trying to direct inexperienced talent too much.

While I prefer the wide screen format you have selected, having the subject off center may be an issue for multi-purposing the final video. This will not be a big problem so long as it is kept in a web or computer based medium, but you are really close to the safe action limits on some shots. While I did not check the Safe title for your titles some of them may be a problem on an NTSC monitor.

Video quality looks good, and you mpg looks good as well. I assume you are shooting in DVcam, or DVCPRo and running direct digital to the edit suite which would account for the quality. Your mpg codex works well too.

Just out of curiosity what edit platform are you using (AVID, Final Cut, Premier, other)? Do you plan on putting this out on a DVD as well?

Regards
Phil

PS - Jupiter really is a gas giant. People trying to land there will all meet near the middle as a crushed pool of proteins, amino acids and DNA.
18) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Tiny tags trace dragonfly paths (Message 16008)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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Not sure if this would fit in the science forum as it is for protien folding stuff so posting here. I found this amazing:


The epic journeys taken by dragonflies searching for warmer climates have been revealed by scientists in the US.
The team, led by researchers from Princeton University, found that the insects are capable of flying up to 85 miles (137 km) in a day.


Full story published 10th May 2006 at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4759615.stm

very interesting read. I wonder where they go.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Connection problems (Message 16007)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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What happens if you manually download the .exe from http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/ and copy it into BOINC's projects/*rosetta directory?

if he can download it that should work.
20) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : CASP7 to start in April (Message 15665)
Posted 7 May 2006 by Profile Snake Doctor
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rosetta did not pick the dates for this. It is done by international agreement. Probably since most of the research is done at universities, they pick the summer because the research teams are not busy teaching at that time.

i realize that. your guess may have validity, but my guess is that climate was never even considered during the planning process.



Well don't forget we are looking at this from a rather northern hemishpere centric point of view. CASP7 will run all WINTER in the Southern hemisphere.


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