Posts by STE\/E

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting only Rosetta Mini tasks, is this normal? (Message 88027)
Posted 6 Jan 2018 by STE\/E
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I've noticed the same thing too, I never get a Rosetta Wu just the Rosetta Mini Wu's. I actually don't believe I've ever got a Rosetta Wu according to the Hours at the WuProp Project which tracks Hr's, I only show Hours for the Rosetta Mini Wu's & no Hr's for the Rosetta Wu's: Is there some trick in getting the Rosetta Wu's instead of the Rosetta Mini Wu's ???

89 rosetta@home Rosetta Mini 53,873.58 0.00
2) Message boards : Number crunching : My rant: Why you should care about the credit-system (Message 26164)
Posted 6 Sep 2006 by STE\/E
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I agree that some of the Projects are trying to get in line with some of the other Projects to get the Credits in line with them. But the point I was making was that almost all the new Projects allow almost as much Credit as you can stand thus forever Skewing the over all BOINC Credit Ranks.

So if you process for the Projects (without using an Optimized Client that does nothing for the Project) that have their Credit System normalized < (for lack of a better word) & in line with other normalized Projects while Joe Blow Jumps from Project to Project that allows unlimited Credit by using an Optimized Client or by whatever other means it takes to get the Credit you are simply getting killed in the Credit Race if thats what you are into.

3) Message boards : Number crunching : My rant: Why you should care about the credit-system (Message 26160)
Posted 6 Sep 2006 by STE\/E
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Good Article, but there is really nothing anybody can do about the shambles the Credit System is in. As long as new projects are allowed to come on-line allowing almost unlimited Credit to the participants then the Credit System is nothing but a farce...IMO

You can go to almost any of the newer alpha projects and a lot of people are getting 100-200 or even more Credits per hour by using the Optimized Clients which do nothing but increase their Credits & inflate their ego\'s ...
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a new crunching rig? (Message 25951)
Posted 3 Sep 2006 by STE\/E
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No, you will need DDR2 RAM, which is different to DDR RAM.

Dang, all my PC\'s have DDR Memory, it\'s all good memory & I was hoping to use it & save a little money. Oh well I\'ll just have to get the DDR2 Memory then, Thanks ...

Poorboy, if you aren\'t planning to OC much, if any, there are some Asrock mobos that you can use DDR and AGP on that use VIA chipsets or the 945, IIRC.


XS, if this is 1 of the Mobos you are talking about (ASRock 775i865G (Intel 865G)) thats what I ordered, I went back & looked at the specs on it again & it indeed does say it use\'s DDR400 Memory, which if I am not mistaken is PC3200 or above, correct me if I am wrong.

Thats the main reason I went with that board so I could use my AGP Cards yet & cut some costs. I ordered some OCZ Dual Channel 1024MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Platinum (2 x 512MB) Memory before seeing this post so I don\'t know what I\'ll do with that now if I can use my DDR Memory.

I\'ll see how this upgrade goes and just order a DDR2 Mother Board for the next PC in line to get Upgraded. Right now I\'m more after Stability and a little Overclock & to save as much money as I can. Thanks for the info though ...
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a new crunching rig? (Message 25883)
Posted 2 Sep 2006 by STE\/E
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No, you will need DDR2 RAM, which is different to DDR RAM.

Dang, all my PC\'s have DDR Memory, it\'s all good memory & I was hoping to use it & save a little money. Oh well I\'ll just have to get the DDR2 Memory then, Thanks ...
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a new crunching rig? (Message 25880)
Posted 2 Sep 2006 by STE\/E
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Can anyone tell me if DDR Dual Channel PC3200 Memory will work with the new Core 2 Duo CPU\'s & Motherboards ... ???
7) Message boards : Number crunching : credit/hour how much is possible?? (Message 25595)
Posted 30 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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It is only 5 % overclocked (to 2.8 GHz) - the board I am using is not designed for overclocking and I want it to be rock-bottom stable. I\'m still playing with the BIOS settings to squeeze some more speed out of it... ;-)


I noticed that when I checked your Computers & realized it was OC\'ed a little bit. Stability is the the main reason I went with the X6800 EE, if I don\'t want to overclock it I don\'t have to & it will be plenty fast as is is. The Motherboard I\'m getting is quite versatile for Overclocking & the CPU will have a Mini Liquid Cooling System so I should be able to bump it up & still retain Stability ... :)
8) Message boards : Number crunching : credit/hour how much is possible?? (Message 25566)
Posted 30 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 2.8 GHz: 23.75 c/h per core (47.5 c/h total) - got mine last weekend :-)


Drool ... ;) ... I can\'t wait to get my hands on mine, I\'ve got the X6800 Extreme Edition coming. I know it\'s way over priced but every once in awhile I have a Brain Fart and splurge ... :)

Are you running yours at the Stock Rated Speed or have you Overclocked it, I\'m going to try and get the X6800 up over 3.4Ghz. Any where between 3.4 & 3.5 will be just fine.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : How to fake out the new credit system (Message 25129)
Posted 27 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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I\'ve tried running the WU\'s at different Time Lengths, 1 hr & 2 hr & 4 hr & 8 hr, the Credits seem to work out the same per hour average no matter what length I run them ...
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Old/New Credit system comparisons (Message 25128)
Posted 27 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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I should note that \"Optimized\" means more work more efficiently not a method to cheat.


Running an Optimized Client at some Projects does have it\'s benefits in that it makes the CPU work more efficiently thus lowering the time it takes to run that Projects WU\'s for the same amount of Credit you would get not running an Optimized Client & taking longer to run the WU\'s.

As far as I know running an Optimized Client @ the Rosetta Project does absolutely nothing but Raise Your Benchmark Score to increase the Amount of Credit that you are asking for.

It\'s a moot point now anyway with the new Credit System, you can ask for all you want but your only going to get so much.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Old/New Credit system comparisons (Message 25107)
Posted 27 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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What happens if you try running it with Rosetta on 1 core and something else on the other? Anders n


Yeah I know that can make a difference sometimes but it\'s also hard to get the HT CPU\'s to do that on their own. I\'m doing that right now with 2 other Projects because the times for the 1 Project drop 25% to 30% over what they would be running 2 of the same WU\'s together, and the times for the other Project stay the same either way.

I haven\'t tried it with the Rosetta WU\'s because of the set Times they run, I guess the only way I could tell is by the Credit received ... NOTE: I\'m trying that right now to see if I tell if theres any difference in Credit received, it may take a few WU\'s to tell or not ...
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Old/New Credit system comparisons (Message 25103)
Posted 27 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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Or the same machine running 24 hours with HT off then HT on.


I\'ve tried running a few WU\'s with HT off and the Credit\'s dropped 10% - 15% over what running 2 of them in HT Mode would give me. To me it seems the P4\'s with HT are just not up to the task of the Rosetta WU\'s, they can\'t get enough work done in the alloted time to get any appreciable Credit like the Dual Core or X2 or similar CPU\'s can get.

In their day the P4\'s with HT were king of the Hill but now they are just middle of the road anymore ... IMO
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Old/New Credit system comparisons (Message 25101)
Posted 27 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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Benny there is a marked difference in a P4 3.0GHz Prescott and a P4 3.0GHz Northwood.

The Prescott does better with HT on while the Northwood the opposite,IMO.


I\'ve found out that it depends on the Project you run with the Prescott Carl. I have quite a few 3.4 Northwoods & Prescott\'s running. It seems the Prescott\'s give you this considerably higher Benchmark but can\'t live up to it at certain Projects. In fact I have a few 3.06 P4\'s that will out run the 3.4 Prescott\'s at the right Project. None of my PC\'s are Overclocked so this is at stock speed, I don\'t know how the Prescott\'s would fair if Overclocked.

Even at the right Project the Prescott\'s don\'t run any better than the Northwood\'s do of the same speed but at least will keep up with them anyway.
Plus the Prescott\'s run a lot Hotter than the Northwoods, anywheres from 15-25 degrees Fahrenheit hotter ...
14) Message boards : Number crunching : How to fake out the new credit system (Message 25046)
Posted 26 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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Which would have created intra-project parity but not prevented manual cheating.


Are you stating catagorically this system cannot be cheated ?

At least I don\'t know any way to do so.


Hopefully there\'s not a way to cheat the Rosetta Credit System in place now, but you have some very enterprising people out there that will work 24 hr\'s a day to find a way. How long it will take people to figure something out is anybodies guess & how subtle they are with the Cheat will determine if they get caught or not.
15) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : TERAFLOPS (Message 24963)
Posted 26 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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Predictor@Home closes for an undetermined time, there may be a lot of switchers heading to Rosetta. Users/Hosts in the last 24h is raising too...

HashClash has not given out any new work for almost 1 month now either. Some of the new users could have come over here waiting for HC to come back online & give out more work. There are several other Projects that are slow right now also ...
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Discussion of the new credit system (Message 24960)
Posted 26 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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[quote]Found one.quote]

People should look quickly before the old system daily team scores drop off the 7 day rolling window.


This Chart shows that Teams Daily Stats for almost the last 30 days ...

http://stats.free-dc.org/new/teamrank.php?proj=rah&team=XtremeSystems
17) Message boards : Number crunching : New credit system now being tested at RALPH@home (Message 22340)
Posted 12 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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After doing some WU\'s over @ the Ralph Project if this is going to be the New Wave Credit System I don\'t think theres going to be very many takers.

I have yet to get over 8 Credits for 1 WU processing them @ 1 hour Preferences with a P4 3.2 Ghz CPU PC, some were as low as 2 Credits. Yet I see other People with 1.8 Ghz CPU PC\'s getting 40 & 50 Credit\'s Per hour.

If this is what is called equalizing the Credits among the Participants I can Live without it ... 0_o
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Heatwave and electricity cost.... (Message 21834)
Posted 4 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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If you go to most of the Projects BOINC v5.4.11 is the Version they give you to download, so I\'m taking that as they mean that Version to be the Recommended Version ... ???

And yes it is quite a hassle Updating all the PC\'s, thats why I stayed with v5.2.15 so long, but at least now I\'m caught up to the latest Version ... Until tomorrow when they come out with a newer one haha ... 0_o
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Heatwave and electricity cost.... (Message 21818)
Posted 4 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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I\'ve typed so much I\'m getting confused.

don\'t know if this was helpful

tony

Tony, I was using v5.2.15 for a long time, but like I said I finally Upgraded to v5.4.9 a few days ago & noticed I wasn\'t getting the Can\'t Connect Message or Error. What caused the Message on the PC that I Upgraded to v5.4.11 yesterday I don\'t know other than it may have been the first time it tried to connect.

But at least with the v5.4.9 I didn\'t lose any work, I checked the Process Manager & the Wu\'s were still running so I just clicked the Message off & went from there.

So anyway I Upgraded the rest of my PC\'s to v5.4.11 this morning so they would all be running the same Version of BOINC, so far I haven\'t had any problems with it but will have to give it some time to see how it goes ...

20) Message boards : Number crunching : Heatwave and electricity cost.... (Message 21746)
Posted 3 Aug 2006 by STE\/E
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As far as I can remember the Message is BOINC Can\'t Connect to the Internet & Would I like to try again with a Yes No Option to click on.I\'ve checked the Process Manager when I\'ve seen that BOINC Can\'t Connect Message & nothings running. The Process Manager shows the CPU @ 99% Idle, with no WU\'s showing in the Process Manager either.

The only way I\'ve been able to get WU\'s started again is to Exit BOINC & Re-start it again.

We had a good storm yesterday, even with Power Backups attached half my PC\'s kicked out because the Power was kicking on & off so much. I lost over 250 hours of ongoing WU\'s from the Rectilinear Project because they have no Checkpoints yet & the WU\'s reset back to 0 start time again. I\'ve suspended any new work from there until they do get Checkpoints & Aborted the re-set WU\'s rather than go thru the same thng again when the next storm hits ...


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