Posts by Jord

21) Message boards : Number crunching : P4 vs Celeron Processor (Message 1344) Posted 14 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: Don't compare the times as is. What you want to know about is whether or not the project's science application uses the level 2 cache in the CPU a lot or not. Because that's essentially the only difference between the CPUs: The amount of L2 cache (128KB-256KB for the Celeron against 512KB-1024KB for the P4).
22) Message boards : Number crunching : Single project BOINC installation package (Message 1298) Posted 12 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: I'm hoping a generic install will get users to join that wouldn't have otherwise. Isn't it easier for your situation to install it as a standard service/software running for the university, then only change it to the user's account for as long as he/she is using that computer? Or am I misreading what your intend is?
23) Message boards : Number crunching : Single project BOINC installation package (Message 1296) Posted 12 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: The attaches to a default user? would still be the problem. You can't use Boinc without having registered to a project. The new Boinc 5.2 version has an attach to wizard which doesn't need the 32 character authenticator key anymore when attaching to a project. Yet you still can't make one client for 5000 people, since only the computer that downloads the work units can upload them. You could tell all 5000 others to use your email address and password to attach to your account. But what's the use of a team then? ;)
24) Message boards : Number crunching : Single project BOINC installation package (Message 1294) Posted 12 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: ...creating an executable that only prompts where you'd like to install the app, then installs BOINC as a service and attaches to a default user? It might be me, but I see a big problem with this. Doesn't the person who installs the executable (especially as a service!) need to be at least a Power User or an Administrator on a Windows network? How many of your standard users are one of those? The other things I see it dropping over are things like: * port settings * proxy settings * the MSI installer
25) Message boards : Number crunching : One final big question (Message 1248) Posted 11 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: Is is worth continuing running Rosetta for those of us who can not complete a WU? I mean does any useful information get passed back after a crash or a halt at the 83.33% point. Or are wasting CPU cycles? Should we wait for the new version or keep going computing? Ron... keep an eye on Boinc Downloads, refresh it every hour today (use CTRL+F5 or SHIFT+F5). A new version of Boinc is about to be released today. This new version will work with RAH. This new version will fix a lot of problems you have today. You will need to uninstall your present version to install the new one. Everyone will need to do this. Ron, I am running Boinc 5.2.1 You will get 5.2.2 or 5.2.3 later on today. The good day is here. Just keep an eye on it. It will fix a lot of things. (@David: I hope you see the changes before you try to find fixes for your problems where there are none ;))
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta crashes on pausing (Message 1234) Posted 10 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: Yes, my post may have been a complete mess towards you. What was I trying to terll you? Well, it's easy. If you set up Boinc to only allow contact every 12 days, then you can test for a new setting through the Preferences and the auto-reset those of Boinc for the next 24 hours to 288 hours... If you do not take the 30 seconds off your time off to forcibly check these things, then it may take at minimum 24 hours longer.
27) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta crashes on pausing (Message 1233) Posted 10 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: Remember to click the Update button in your BOINC manager, so the changes can take place. ========== Although that is a good idea Fuzzy & something I do myself anytime I make a Preference change the changes will ( or should anyway) take place Automatically the next time the Client Contacts the Server. Which it does do. Either every 24 hours, or at the time you set when your computer contacts the network server of the project you set that time at. Always according to the old time you set there, 12minutes, 30 minutes, 24 hours, 192 hours. What is your connect to set to again? And is it set at the same venue as that for other projects?
28) Message boards : Number crunching : Computational Error (Message 1211) Posted 10 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: Best wait a day or two longer. Release Client v5.2 is on its way. Expected some place this week. If only so it stops you from having to change Boinc yet again in a couple of days.
29) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta crashes on pausing (Message 1203) Posted 10 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: you can avoid this error (beside when it is disturbed by benchmark) with setting your preferences to "leave app in memory" until science app 4.77 is replaced with a newer one. note though that this will inc rease your memmory usage Didn't work. Still crashed on a pause. How did such buggy code get released? I found that didn't work either May I ask how you set it? Did you just go to your preferences webpage here and set the option to leave the application in memory? Or did you also Update RAH through Boinc Manager afterwards? The memory usage will not go up much. When switching between work units, if you have the option to leave them in memory set on, BOINC will write the units to your page file (swap file, virtual memory). Only a very small part is being kept active in the RAM, less even than the Windows Task Manager shows!
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Computational Error (Message 1089) Posted 8 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: As far as I know it is for all platforms, David. But look: 08/10/2005 03:19:15\|\|Suspending computation and network activity - running CPU benchmarks 08/10/2005 03:19:15\|rosetta@home\|Pausing result 1cfyA_abrelax_no_cst_10632_1 (left in memory) 08/10/2005 03:19:17\|\|Running CPU benchmarks 08/10/2005 03:20:16\|\|Benchmark results: 08/10/2005 03:20:16\|\| Number of CPUs: 1 08/10/2005 03:20:16\|\| 1217 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 08/10/2005 03:20:16\|\| 2423 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU 08/10/2005 03:20:16\|\|Finished CPU benchmarks 08/10/2005 03:20:17\|\|Resuming computation and network activity 08/10/2005 03:20:17\|\|request_reschedule_cpus: Resuming activities 08/10/2005 03:20:17\|rosetta@home\|Resuming result 1cfyA_abrelax_no_cst_10632_1 using rosetta version 477 (Link to the fix in CVS: here .. excuse me, was linking to the wrong fix first. Linking to the correct one of the 21st of September 2005 now.)
31) Message boards : Number crunching : Computational Error (Message 1084) Posted 7 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: That science applications are unloaded from memory when making a benchmark, is fixed in the next version of Boinc. Using 5.1.8 I haven't found any problems of Rosetta being in memory together with Seti, Einstein, Seti Beta, Boinc Alpha and two other projects, or with Rosetta being in memory at the time of the automated benchmark or a forced manual one. So in my opinion, if everyone may need to get 5.2.0 in about a week's time anyway, does time need to be spend on fixing it for older versions of Boinc? In that case, you'd best find the "leave in memory while benchmarking" fix in the CVS and build a couple of older Boinc versions with that fix. ;)
32) Message boards : Number crunching : A question to the BOINC community... (Message 894) Posted 2 Oct 2005 by Jord Post: In addition to Paul Buck's post: Easy forum keeping 101: Allow for one member recruiting thread only in your Cafe. Blank the rest. Tell everyone else they should ask for it in that thread. Tell them specifically that they cannot demand anything or be banned. If a team becomes overly demanding in one of your forums, tell them to lay it off, or they get banned as a whole from the forums. Display a link to your FAQ & Forum Rules in your sig for every post you make (!) (!) This may need an edit in the forums software, where Admins and Moderators signatures are always visible, against people's preferences.
33) Questions and Answers : Windows : Rosetta keeps going when I exit Boinc -service install- (Message 834) Posted 30 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: Might be due to me alpha testing Boinc 5.1.5 as a service. Earlier today I had to stop Boinc, so I used net stop boinc through a commandline to exit it. I noticed that my last Rosetta unit was running at that time. When I was done with what I was doing (not a reboot), I started boinc again using net start boinc. In Boinc Manager it showed that I was running a SZTAKI unit in EDF mode, but in Task Manager it showed that both SZTAKI and Rosseta were using my CPU. Neatly 50-50%. Nice, but I don't have a hyperthreading CPU. I have now forced to run the Rosetta unit. It seems it got no harm from me Ending its process through TM. I'll keep an eye on it.
34) Questions and Answers : Windows : *UNHANDLED EXCEPTION** (Message 791) Posted 29 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: here's a list with a lot of optional downloads. Mind 4.72 and all of the 5.1.x versions are development versions. They may not run stable on your system! Don't use 5.1.x on Rosetta anyway. You will not be able to download any work, since the server software of the Rosetta project hasn't been upgraded yet.
35) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can't get out of the screen saver... (Message 776) Posted 29 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: You can do so from within Windows, display properties. Set the screensaver option to None. But this will disable all screensavers for all projects. Not that the Rosetta project has a screensaver yet, but BOINC does have a standard one.
36) Questions and Answers : Windows : WU stuck on 1% (Message 770) Posted 29 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: Which Boinc version is this on? If you let it continue for more than an hour, does it eventually progress? Have you tried a reboot of the system, to make sure nothing is stuck? When checking in Task Manager, does the rosetta_4.77 application show with any CPU cycles?
37) Message boards : Number crunching : file_deleter boinc Is Not Running? (Message 711) Posted 28 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: Maybe it ran out of work to delete.
38) Message boards : Number crunching : benchmarcks crashed my unit (Message 674) Posted 28 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: "Leave applications in memory while preempted? yes" Be nice and keep it in English if the first post was in English, please. Anyway, even if you leave applications in memory when preempted, they will still get unloaded from memory when the automatic benchmarks are done. This is hopefully fixed in 5.1.5, but then again, that version doesn't work with Rosetta yet.
39) Questions and Answers : Windows : *UNHANDLED EXCEPTION** (Message 671) Posted 28 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: Look at this answer in the Boinc Wiki.
40) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unrecoverable error for unit that was 100% complete?? (Message 670) Posted 28 Sep 2005 by Jord Post: Look at this answer in the Wiki.

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