Posts by Moderator9
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Cafe Rosetta :
Retaining Users - Bringing back former ones
(Message 21527)
Posted 1 Aug 2006 by Moderator9 Post: Angus asked - So why was this post deleted as "obscene"? Did I use a word that is obscene in some language other than English? I also did NOT get an email about the deletion. I can't help you with an answer. I did not delete it, but it would appear that it was part of a larger series of posts involving some flaming. As I said. Sometimes the response is deleted as a matter of fairness. From our many conversations, you seem to think that all of the moderators have detailed knowledge of the actions of all the others. That is not the case. |
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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
Retaining Users - Bringing back former ones
(Message 21504)
Posted 31 Jul 2006 by Moderator9 Post: Well, I can see that reducing the moderation of the forums did not help things. Just for the record. The forum software does not allow a moderator to "Edit" someone's post. If there is offensive material, the entire post must be deleted. Second, there is no way to leave a marker in place of any deleted post. Whenever I delete a post the person gets a message from me explaining why it was deleted. If I move a thread everyone who posted to the thread gets a notice. To my knowledge no posts have ever been deleted because of the ideas they contain. I certainly do not work that way and I do not see other moderators doing it either. The language is the driving force behind deletion of almost all posts. In some cases people double post, or request deletions, or quote from a deleted post. In my case I delete the original offending post and the responses to it to be fair to both parties. But other than that posts are only moved, and only then if there is a more appropriate topical place for them. While some people seem to feel that the forums are over moderated, others feel they are under moderated. Over the last month I had other duties to perform, which effectively reduced the moderation significantly. I now have some time to return to Rosetta, and I will. Considering the number of moderators active on the forums, it would be very hard to think they are over moderated. Moreover, most of the moderators who are active are also Rosetta users. So in reality the forums are moderated by the user community. I am not the only such moderator/user. While there are general guideline provided by the project for moderating, the day to day specifics are left to the moderator to work out. So the techniques vary from Moderator to moderator. In the end the project determines who stays and who goes based on how well they do the job. Fairness is the key. I have been accused by both sides in this discussion of bias. Frankly, when both side accuse me of the same offense, then the offense by definition cannot exist. All any of the moderators (myself included) ever ask for is a modicum of organizational discipline in placing your post and a certain level of civility in the discourse. Other than that you are free to express yourselves as you see fit. If the forums are not "fun" enough, that is not the fault of the moderators, or the level of moderation. Perhaps if you require the use of inappropriate language, images, or threats to express yourselves "for fun" you should expand your vocabulary. |
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Number crunching :
Can't see graphics on Linux version
(Message 19578)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: A Linux graphics version is in the works.We finally got some more manpower on our development team. Look for it on ralph in the next month! The nature of the work is memory intensive. This is true of almost all of the BOINC science applications. In the case of Rosetta, they have just reduced the memory requirements to 256 from the original 512. This is a significant improvement, but it also means that it is a more serious limitation. The graphics display is not the source of this issue, but it does exacerbate the problem. While it is possible to run any of the BOINC science applications with less than the recommended memory, you are likely to have more problems than systems that meet or exceed the requirements. Even systems that minimally meet the requirements often have more issues than those that exceed them. Not the least of these issues is increased paging and consequently more wear on the disk drives. |
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Number crunching :
PROJECT INFORMATION AND HELP INDEX!!!
(Message 19576)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: There are a number of resources available to to Rosetta@home users which provide you with up to date project information. Please explore our website freely, but be sure to visit the following links as they will provide a detailed understanding of Rosetta@home and make your time here more enjoyable. 1) Dr. David Bakers Rosetta@home Journal, a running log of thoughts and commentary from the project Chief investigator.* 2) Discussion of Rosetta@home Journal (2), where users can chat with Dr. Baker about his log entries and other science related concepts. 3) Rosetta@home Active Work Unit(s) Log, provides descriptions of the Work Units and proteins currently being examined by the project on your computer(s).* 4) Discussion- Proteins and Work Units, where users can discuss the work units described in the work unit log. 5) Rosetta Application Version Release Log, Announcements of new software versions and updates.* 6) Discussion of Release log entries, Discussion and additional information on entries made to the release log. 7) Project Announcement Thread, Where the project provides announcements to the user community that may require user action.* 8) Improvements to Rosetta@home based on user feedback, a place for users to make and discuss general suggestions to the project team. 9) Discuss Rosetta Application Errors and Fixes (all Versions), a place to discuss application specific issues. 10) Rosetta@home FAQ, a collection of "Frequently Asked Questions" with answers about running Rosetta@home on your computer.* 11) Team Thread, a thread where teams can post contact information and recruit new members. 12) Personal Milestones, a place for users to report individual milestones in credit accumulations and competitions. 13) Moderators Contact Point, a place where users can contact forum Moderators for help or to report problems. 14) A letter to Rosetta@home users, a letter prepared by Rosetta@home users inviting increased participation and explaining why additional help is important. 15) Links for REPORTING PROBLEMS, places where users can report problems in different versions of Rosetta. 16) RALPH Home page, the doorway to the Rosetta@home ALPHa test project, where new concepts in protein modeling are tested prior to production use.** 17) A video presentation by Dr. David Baker, this video explains the nature of Rosetta work and the problems facing computational protein prediction. 18) WIKIpedia articles about Rosetta@Home, Many articles on rosetta research.
2) Moderators Contact Point - Archive, the history of user contacts with forum Moderators for help or to report problems.
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Rosetta@home Science :
PROJECT INFORMATION AND HELP INDEX!!!
(Message 19573)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: There are a number of resources available to to Rosetta@home users which provide you with up to date project information. Please explore our website freely, but be sure to visit the following links as they will provide a detailed understanding of Rosetta@home and make your time here more enjoyable. 1) Dr. David Bakers Rosetta@home Journal, a running log of thoughts and commentary from the project Chief investigator.* 2) Discussion of Rosetta@home Journal (2), where users can chat with Dr. Baker about his log entries and other science related concepts. 3) Rosetta@home Active Work Unit(s) Log, provides descriptions of the Work Units and proteins currently being examined by the project on your computer(s).* 4) Discussion- Proteins and Work Units, where users can discuss the work units described in the work unit log. 5) Rosetta Application Version Release Log, Announcements of new software versions and updates.* 6) Discussion of Release log entries, Discussion and additional information on entries made to the release log. 7) Project Announcement Thread, Where the project provides announcements to the user community that may require user action.* 8) Improvements to Rosetta@home based on user feedback, a place for users to make and discuss general suggestions to the project team. 9) Discuss Rosetta Application Errors and Fixes (all Versions), a place to discuss application specific issues. 10) Rosetta@home FAQ, a collection of "Frequently Asked Questions" with answers about running Rosetta@home on your computer.* 11) Team Thread, a thread where teams can post contact information and recruit new members. 12) Personal Milestones, a place for users to report individual milestones in credit accumulations and competitions. 13) Moderators Contact Point, a place where users can contact forum Moderators for help or to report problems. 14) A letter to Rosetta@home users, a letter prepared by Rosetta@home users inviting increased participation and explaining why additional help is important. 15) Links for REPORTING PROBLEMS, places where users can report problems in different versions of Rosetta. 16) RALPH Home page, the doorway to the Rosetta@home ALPHa test project, where new concepts in protein modeling are tested prior to production use.** 17) A video presentation by Dr. David Baker, this video explains the nature of Rosetta work and the problems facing computational protein prediction. 18) WIKIpedia articles about Rosetta@Home, Many articles on rosetta research.
2) Moderators Contact Point - Archive, the history of user contacts with forum Moderators for help or to report problems.
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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
PROJECT INFORMATION AND HELP INDEX!!!
(Message 19572)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: There are a number of resources available to to Rosetta@home users which provide you with up to date project information. Please explore our website freely, but be sure to visit the following links as they will provide a detailed understanding of Rosetta@home and make your time here more enjoyable. 1) Dr. David Bakers Rosetta@home Journal, a running log of thoughts and commentary from the project Chief investigator.* 2) Discussion of Rosetta@home Journal (2), where users can chat with Dr. Baker about his log entries and other science related concepts. 3) Rosetta@home Active Work Unit(s) Log, provides descriptions of the Work Units and proteins currently being examined by the project on your computer(s).* 4) Discussion- Proteins and Work Units, where users can discuss the work units described in the work unit log. 5) Rosetta Application Version Release Log, Announcements of new software versions and updates.* 6) Discussion of Release log entries, Discussion and additional information on entries made to the release log. 7) Project Announcement Thread, Where the project provides announcements to the user community that may require user action.* 8) Improvements to Rosetta@home based on user feedback, a place for users to make and discuss general suggestions to the project team. 9) Discuss Rosetta Application Errors and Fixes (all Versions), a place to discuss application specific issues. 10) Rosetta@home FAQ, a collection of "Frequently Asked Questions" with answers about running Rosetta@home on your computer.* 11) Team Thread, a thread where teams can post contact information and recruit new members. 12) Personal Milestones, a place for users to report individual milestones in credit accumulations and competitions. 13) Moderators Contact Point, a place where users can contact forum Moderators for help or to report problems. 14) A letter to Rosetta@home users, a letter prepared by Rosetta@home users inviting increased participation and explaining why additional help is important. 15) Links for REPORTING PROBLEMS, places where users can report problems in different versions of Rosetta. 16) RALPH Home page, the doorway to the Rosetta@home ALPHa test project, where new concepts in protein modeling are tested prior to production use.** 17) A video presentation by Dr. David Baker, this video explains the nature of Rosetta work and the problems facing computational protein prediction. 18) WIKIpedia articles about Rosetta@Home, Many articles on rosetta research.
2) Moderators Contact Point - Archive, the history of user contacts with forum Moderators for help or to report problems.
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Number crunching :
Discussions about release log entries
(Message 19571)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: This thread has been started to store posts relating to release log entries. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
I just joined and the thing just says "read to run" and does nothing!
(Message 19569)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: Moved from the science forum |
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Number crunching :
Can I change which Harddrive I use
(Message 19567)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: This thread was moved from the science forum |
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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
How Many Computers Does It Take to Make Contact with E.T.
(Message 19566)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: This thread was moved from the science forum |
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Number crunching :
my firewall [linux]
(Message 19565)
Posted 30 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: Thread moved from the Science forum |
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Cafe Rosetta :
Team Thread (Ads only, not for discussions)
(Message 19485)
Posted 29 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: Teams available at the Rosetta@home project that have posted a listing australian rosetta team Betterhumans.com B.C.BOINC BOINC@AUSTRALIA BOINC.BE BOINC@Denmark BOINC Synergy Democratic Party Dutch Power Cows FaDBeens Greenpeace Hawaiian Beach Bums Linux Users Everywhere @ BOINC Lookers Objectivists SaR Hessen SETI.Germany SETI.USA Team Anandtech Team Jesus Team MacNN Team Mauisun Team Ninja Team-SciFi Teddies The Clangers The Final Front Ear The Knights Who Say NI UK BOINC Team USA Linux Users Group Teams from other BOINC projects that have posted a listing here. Team CF - (CPDN only) Requirements for posting to this thread Feel free to post an advertisement for your team on this thread 1) Only one post (listing) per team please. 2) The thread is not for discussions, it is a place where people can find out about your team and connect up with your group web site if you have one. 3) Please keep the posts short as we have a number of new people coming into the project on limited bandwidth connections. 4) Please avoid using large images (a small team logo is ok) 5) Focus your comment on your own team, and do not berate other teams. If you need help to set some links or other assistance let me know by posting your request HERE. {Moderator Note: This thread will be moderated tightly by the rules listed above. All nonconforming posts will be removed.} Be advised: The links posted here may take you other websites. The listing of those links on this thread does not constitute an endorsement for any of those sites, the content of the sites or the teams represented in the listings by the Rosetta@home project or the University of Washington or their researchers and staff. Your use of these offsite links is at your own risk, the Rosetta@home project and the University of Washington are not responsible for off site content or management of any information they may gather from your connection to their site |
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Number crunching :
Report stuck & aborted WU here please
(Message 19321)
Posted 26 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: This thread was originally started in January, and has been retired. Please use the appropriate link in this post for reporting errors, including stuck or aborted Work units. |
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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
Moderator contact thread archive
(Message 19191)
Posted 24 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: I would like to ask why Roseta 5.24 wanted to enter to some IP adress? Normally the Rosetta application would not contact any web address. The BOINC application does all the communicating with outside websites. These are usually limited to scheduling new work, uploading results, and the links provided for the project in the BOINC manager window. The Screen saver does use an internal network connection (loopback) when it runs. To may knowledge that is all there is. What address did BOINC attempt to contact? |
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Number crunching :
Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.24
(Message 19095)
Posted 22 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: Not a bug, but I noticed a v5.24 WU FRA_t298_hom001_5_IGNORE_THE_REST_dec22.pdb_747_47_0 You are correct that this is not a bug. However, the large memory test you have mentioned has already been shown not to be the answer. In fact BOINC will use virtual memory to compensate for memory issues. Moreover, the BOINC scheduler will allow other programs to run and yield the processor to them as necessary. But if you read the version 5.22 problem reporting thread, you will see many reports from people who were upset that they were denied work because of the size of a work unit. During CASP large work units are just part of the science that is being run. |
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Number crunching :
Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.24
(Message 19081)
Posted 21 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: This thread is for reporting problems with Rosetta Version 5.24 |
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Number crunching :
Is this possible?
(Message 18981)
Posted 20 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: Hi folks, I have about 10 or 12 machines crunching Rosetta for us when they are not in use. One of the things I would like to be able to do is designate a single machine as the "host" whereby all internet traffic goes through that one machine (uploading/downloading WU's etc..) Yes but there are a number of different ways to approach the problem. The best way would be to get a switch with sufficient ports to handle all the machines, and connect the switch to the internet. Second best would be to build a daisy chain by networking the computers to each other, and set up one system to share it's connection to the internet. To do that each system will have to have at least two ports set up for networking. These ports can be almost any mix of Firewire (IEEE 1394), Ethernet, and USB. But in any case you would connect them into a daisy chain and pick one to connect to the internet and configure it accordingly. |
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Number crunching :
Stuck at 74.101% using 0.000% CPU
(Message 18980)
Posted 20 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: ...Hi! mod, the thread of stuck & aborted WUs We are not using the stuck and aborted Work Unit thread for reporting. Error reporting for ANY error type is done in one of the threads linked from Here. I will move your post to that thread. If I don't the project team may not see it. In any case, you do not need to load the entire thread to post. There should be a button at the top of your browser window that will allow you to stop the loading of a web page. If you wait until the page starts to load (say 10 seconds) and then stop the loading process, you can then just post to the thread without loading the whole thing. |
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Number crunching :
CPU Usage.....
(Message 18977)
Posted 20 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: This thread moved from the Science forum |
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Number crunching :
Report Problems With BOINC SERVER UPGRADE
(Message 18828)
Posted 16 Jun 2006 by Moderator9 Post: It seems to me that the source of the problem is in the blue line below. For some reason the server is either not getting the correct request from your system, or it is not recognizing it. Having said that, based on what you have already tried, I will have to think for a while to make a guess as to what to try next.
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