Posts by KSMarksPsych

21) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43889)
Posted 19 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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OK. I figured I didn't have much to lose as I ran my cache down.

I was able to change the ownership.

kathryn@Galaxy-Linux:~/BOINC$ ls -la run*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kathryn kathryn 52 2007-06-23 23:08 run_client
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kathryn kathryn 55 2007-06-23 23:08 run_manager


(thanks for the instructions)

Unfortunately, the computer still sits there and looks at me when I try to use the run_manager. So I'm back to my old way.

Oh well. It was worth a shot.
22) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43884)
Posted 19 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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Ugh...

I'm not sure I'm up to trying that.

Until I find the courage, I'll just start it the way I've been starting it. Why break something that's actually working?

I did look at the man page. My eyes started glazing over. Much of it is still way above my head.
23) Message boards : Number crunching : Program starts at boot-up but doesn't start a work unit. (Message 43883)
Posted 19 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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When you start up and see the behavior, check Task Manager and see if boinc.exe is running.

Usually when you see the icon in the tray looking like that, it means that the different parts of BOINC can't talk to each other or only the manager is running.
24) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43842)
Posted 18 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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My boincmgr did not run until 5.10.8



See. I have to be difficult. I've got 5.10.8 running :)

I don't mind starting it the way I do. I'd just like to know why it won't start from that run manager file. Not that I'd *understand*, but I can nod and smile with the best of them.

FWIW, It's Ubuntu Feisty Fawn with the latest patches applied.


@Kathryn, are you running the 64-bit Ubuntu? It just dawned on me that my 32-bit Ubuntu's will run boincmgr, while my two 64-bit Ubuntu's will not. My 64-bit Windows will run boincmgr.



Nope 32 bit.
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43841)
Posted 18 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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FWIW, It's Ubuntu Feisty Fawn with the latest patches applied.

That's exactly the same version I am using.

Perhaps your permissions got messed up? This is what they should look like:

mystique:~/Desktop> cd BOINC/
mystique:~/Desktop/BOINC> ls -la run*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 zombie67 zombie67 53 2007-06-09 21:43 run_client
-rwxr-xr-x 1 zombie67 zombie67 56 2007-06-09 21:43 run_manager


Make sure your userid is where mine is, and make sure the permissions match "rwxr-xr-x"



eek... well I see the problem (or I think I do)...

kathryn@Galaxy-Linux:~/BOINC$ ls -la run*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52 2007-06-23 23:08 run_client
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 55 2007-06-23 23:08 run_manager


...it appears to be owned by root. (or am I even reading this correctly?)

And what the heck is all of that after the ls part. I know ls. But I don't know those flags.
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Update BOINC immediately! (Message 43796)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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FWIW, anyone can log bugs to Trac with an account.

And you can find the change log compiled by version here.
27) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43795)
Posted 17 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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My boincmgr did not run until 5.10.8



See. I have to be difficult. I've got 5.10.8 running :)

I don't mind starting it the way I do. I'd just like to know why it won't start from that run manager file. Not that I'd *understand*, but I can nod and smile with the best of them.

FWIW, It's Ubuntu Feisty Fawn with the latest patches applied.
28) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Moderator contact thread archive (Message 43769)
Posted 16 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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Who wrote the user of the day programing?
I just came across a very interesting oddity.
Todays user of the day is Shirley who hasn't been active since April 19 2006
Maybe the person who wrote the user of the day program can find a way to exclude such inactive users.


That would be the folks at Berkeley. It's part of the standard server package. File it as a bug in Trac.
29) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43768)
Posted 16 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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We are talking about running the GUI (BOINCmgr) right? if so, open up the file browser/manager. Navigate to the BOINC folder, double-click the file "run_manager". You will probably get a pop-up with several choices. Select "Run" (not "Run in terminal").

It's that easy.



Heh.

I can never do anything the easy way :)

For some reason double clicking that never has worked. I choose "Run" and the computer just sits there and looks at me. And I stare right back at it with a questioning look on my face.
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43701)
Posted 15 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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Here's what I did. Note: I don't know if this is necessarily the "right" way to do it. And definitely notice the lack of use of the terminal...

I followed the install instructions on the unofficial BOINC Wiki.

I put in in my home directory because I didn't understand the whole /usr thing.

Once you follow all those steps above and you want to start BOINC...

Navigate to the directory its in. Double click boinc then double click boincmgr.

The first will start the daemon and the second the manager. No terminal windows that can't be closed. Plus you can close the manager and have the daemon still running.

Now if I could figure out how to get a shortcut (ehhh... do they even exist on Linux) on my desktop so I don't have to keep opening my home directory, I'd have it made.

:)

31) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Personal Milestones (Message 43552)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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It's small, but I recently returned some of my first results run on my Linux host. It was an adventure setting it up :)
32) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Reasons some people avoid BOINC projects (Message 43515)
Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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I'm looking for info on security with Rosetta/BOINC and this is the only page referencing it. I installed it a week or so a go and just let it run. Last night I selected some link in the interface and wound up looking at my IP. Not the one the rest of the world sees but the one in here behind that one. A link to "Real IP" shows the IP everyone sees normally. I don't know how a lot of this works but I wonder how safe is I with inside the LAN sitting out there on Rosetta's server?



Only you can see your IP and host name. Click on my screen name and you'll see what other people can see.
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux setup. (Message 43085)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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I followed this thread of Tony's.

"Stupid guy installs linux to HD for first time"

I got it to run. I never did figure out how I could close the manager so it runs in the system try like I have it running on Windows.

Unofficial BOINC Wiki page for you to take a look at too. I found their instructions more confusing. I'd edit the page, but I don't understand the install process well enough.

Synaptic (if your distro uses it) should also have a one click install for you. But it's an old version (5.4.11 I think).

34) Message boards : Number crunching : Update BOINC immediately! (Message 43083)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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Download index

All the links on that page are direct downloads. Just find the version you want.

:-)
35) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux, which one? (Message 43082)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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Best?

I dunno.

I just installed Ubuntu on its own partition (compy dual boots between Vista and Ubuntu right now) and it was pretty easy. I'm not crazy about the default color scheme, but that's a minor irritation. I've read that the GUI is more like OS X (I think) but it was easy enough to navigate.

You can always run off a live CD for a few days to see which distro fits your tastes.

I may still burn a Kubuntu CD and have a play with that before I find out how to get KDE as the desktop.
36) Message boards : Number crunching : Update BOINC immediately! (Message 42755)
Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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BOINC 5.10.7 is available. Please, update immediately!


5.10.7 is NOT the last recommended any longer.
There must be some kind of bug in it as last recommended now is 5.8.16 again.

Anders n

There is a possible issue with 5.10.7 causing expoler.exe to crash. It looks like most everyone effected had a boincmanager.vbs script at some point though, so it may not effect anyone going straight from 5.8.x.


5.10.8 is still in testing they say, but you would think that it would have some of the solution to the problem that 5.10.7 was creating. I don't know about these issues since I am running XP SP2.


From the SVN checkin notes it looks like 5.10.9 is coming soon (when soon is really is anyone's guess). Rom does have a working theory. So we'll see.
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Update BOINC immediately! (Message 42598)
Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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There are a few of the developer/helpers posting to this thread, KSMarksPsych and me for instance. Though we do not directly develop we do suggest and iron out bugs (KSMarksPsych far moe than myself).

The purge function has actualy been in it for some time and iirc is also in the 5.8.x release and maybe before that... (but more advanced now)
It up to the project (rosetta) to turn it on in their end and actually use it.

There are no big benefit I know of in 5.10 over 5.8 other than than Boinc Managers Advanced GUI's improved local preferences setting.

But if it's working for you now with 5.8 then there is no rush to upgrade unless a project requires it.

Not sure what's happening with the official release log part posted, it maybe they are moving to the new trak release log and are altering that and forgot to update.... maybe not, lol.


As for the person using NT4, well I would certainly suggest not updating that since it's not NT4 and supprt has dropped since 5.8 for that platform. (same as the drop for Win95).


LOL.

Please don't take what I say too seriously. I just bumble around on the alpha list :)

I'm not sure why the Trac log isn't being updated. I do know Rom is one busy man. Jord and I are keeping a running log of changes over on the BOINC forums in this thread as complied from the release emails that go to the alpha list.

If you find bugs with the core client, don't hesitate to check out the tickets over at Trac and post if it's a new one. Trac does require registration. If you don't want to do that or if you're not sure, you can always post over at the BOINC forums (also requires separate registration). Someone will take a look at it and open a ticket if necessary.
38) Message boards : Number crunching : Update BOINC immediately! (Message 42492)
Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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There are many changes that cannot be seen with the naked eye. I think that the Benchmark system has been changed, so using older versions of BOINC would give you wrong amount of credits.



Not completely accurate. Things to do with the benchmarks have changed. But the basic system is the same.

Rom changed to VS 2005 to compile. That has increased the benchmarks on Windows about 5%.

David fixed an issue with dual core benchmarks.

Log:
- client: fix inconsistent integer benchmarks on Windows
with multicore machines. I don't know why this happened,
but I fixed it by doing integer benchmarks only on CPU zero.
This is OK since cores have separate integer units
(but not necessarily FP units)


David also shortened the benchmark loop from 20 seconds to 10. So now it should only take 30 seconds (rather than 60) to run them.
39) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows x64 official Boinc client in testing (Message 39883)
Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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2007-04-25 18:53:01 [rosetta@home] Message from server: platform 'windows_x86_64' not found
2007-04-25 18:53:01 [rosetta@home] New host venue: home
2007-04-25 18:53:01 [rosetta@home] Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec
2007-04-25 18:53:01 [rosetta@home] Reason: requested by project
2007-04-25 18:53:01 [rosetta@home] Successfully attached to rosetta@home

This brings me to the question: is there a 64bit application for a BOINC at all?


There are a handful of projects that have either the true 64 bit app or rename the 32 bit one. I don't know about Rosetta.

The other problem is the Berkeley naming string (windows_x86_64) is different from what the project's are using (can't remember what it is, but it has amd in it). Because 5.9.4 is still an early alpha release for 5.10.x and buggy, I'd recommend sticking with the stable 5.8.x release. If you do run it, the usual cautions stand and please be willing to log bugs into Trac or to the alpha mailing list (both require registration).
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows x64 official Boinc client in testing (Message 39740)
Posted 22 Apr 2007 by Profile KSMarksPsych
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Kathryn, if it's a 5.10 milestone then it will be added in 5.9 (the development branch for 5.10).



I should have said the next stable release. We're testing 5.9.4 right now. It's not currently in it. So it'll appear with the 5.10.x release to the general public. Unless that is, they decide to push it back to a 5.12.x milestone.

Next time I'll actually try to say what I mean, LOL.


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