Posts by JugNut

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta 3.52 (Message 77891)
Posted 4 Feb 2015 by JugNut
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Hi Sid,
It was me who had the wrong slant on things probably from skimming posts that I read before I read yours. Thanks again for your help I hope I can return the favour some day.

Cheers Greg
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta 3.52 (Message 77889)
Posted 4 Feb 2015 by JugNut
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No worries mod sense i'll give that some thought & also try some longer timed WU's later & see what there like now.
Thanks for your time.

Greg
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta 3.52 (Message 77885)
Posted 3 Feb 2015 by JugNut
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Hi Sid,
Thank you again for your reply. The reason I use 1hr is simply because it credits the most, or at least it certainly seems too. While credits are no where near the top of my list for crunching they are like for most others a side interest. On different occasions I checked other PC's with similar rigs to mine & those I checked on that were using larger times than me on average never got got equal to what I was getting. And I figure since i'm helping anyway what does it matter? After all if using the 1hr option was bad why would it still be an option?

If it was an imperative to get crunchers to use longer times then there would be an advantage for them to do so, at the moment there isn't. A simple way to achieve this if it is indeed a project necessity would be to offer crunchers a bonus for crunching longer times for the extra risk & commitment involved in doing so. Things go pear shaped here more than most other projects. Other projects give bonuses for quick return & doing long tasks so it could be done here too.

Plus The extra overhead at my end seems negligible when running larger size units. Although I didn't do a thorough check when last I used the longer times so I could be wrong about it. Of course if it became a necessity for the projects good then I would oblige happily. With the errors & problems I had well if i'm having them then there could well be who knows how many others with such errors so I thought they would be worth reporting, especially since the majority of crunchers don't use the forums at all & when they find to many errors will just move on.

Crunch-on Cheers Greg.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta 3.52 (Message 77880)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by JugNut
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Thanks for answering Sid. Your right luckily there only seems to be about 4 or 5 a day but it adds up. Especially when for some reason they only get credited with a fraction of what they should. Also it's hard to tell exactly how many there are as I would have to search through 100's of tasks each day to find them.

Rosettas task viewing leaves much to be desired. As you'd know on other projects you can click on say errors & get a list of errors or do a search for a particular task name, that would be a big help here.

PS I've just noticed that out of the blue i'm having comp errors like this https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=714075014 on one of my PC's. It's the same exact error as described in this post above. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=6444&nowrap=true#76816
So far i've had more than a dozen of these over the last 4hrs or so the strange thing is many of them end up getting validated by the next guy along. Not sure if that makes any difference or not but in most cases where it does gets validated it was by someone using Linux . Just a thought? I'll keep digging into it.

Thanks again..
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta 3.52 (Message 77875)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by JugNut
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Sorry my bad it's not the above link, it's this one.. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=713894281

@ P . P . L: I have many of those validate errors too but you still end up getting credited for them in the end. It's considered a normal part of the process. The way I understand it is these WU's are given credit by a script once every 24 hrs but it doesn't show up in your results in the normal spot. If you wait 24/48hrs then click the task details link you'll see right down the very bottom that they did get credited eventually after a day or two.

Like this one of yours.. http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=713405534
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta 3.52 (Message 77874)
Posted 29 Jan 2015 by JugNut
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Not sure whats goes on here.. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=713895694
I have my WU's set to 1 hour but this WU went for 5.1hrs. Is this behavior normal with some types of tasks?
On a side note besides the long time is the small credit given instead of getting 5 times more credit as was asked for instead the WU recieved 5 times less credit. This certainly isn't the first time i've seen this happen either but thankfully only seems to happen a few times a day. So is it mormal?

Any idea's?

TIA
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Client errors (Message 75282)
Posted 24 Mar 2013 by JugNut
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Wooo Hoo my first successful WU's since installing my new cruncher (i7 3930k) some 6 months ago. FINALLY!!!
8) Message boards : Number crunching : 100% Invalids due to Client error (Message 74152)
Posted 1 Nov 2012 by JugNut
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I realize both of your machines are running BOINC v7, but your description sounds the same as others where reverting to a v6 edition of BOINC Manager resolves such problems. See this thread for details.


Thanks for your reply Mod.Sense,

If it where that easy I most defiantly would. I support a few GPU projects that require v7 Boinc or higher that I crunch all the time so thats just not an option. Thanks anyway. If the problem is ever fixed please post a notice & i'll come a runn'in. It sounds like there's many others that would do the same.

All the best to you and the project.

Cheers ..JN..
9) Message boards : Number crunching : 100% Invalids due to Client error (Message 74139)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by JugNut
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Hi Jugnut

You might be helpful in catching what is causing this bug - just had a quick look and it appears your i7 920 is ok while your 3930K isn't, and yet both are running the same OS (Win 7 64-bit) and the same BOINC version: 7.0.36.

Can you clarify whether the machines have GPUs (it appears that at least one does from your other projects), and if so, what GPU(s) and driver version(s)? Also, any other differences between the setups relating to BOINC?

Danny


Thanks for the interest Danny

I'm getting close to giving up & pulling out it's just not worth the agony when all other CPU & GPU projects work a-OK. Per your question: Both, working & non-working PC's both have AMD & Nvidia GPU's. The only difference the non-rosie crunching PC, the 3930k has a AMD HD 7970 plus a Nvidia GTX 670 while the PC that crunch's rosies good, the i7 920 has a AMD HD 6970 plus a GTX 580. Both have roughly the same drivers (non-beta's) crunch the same things have the same version of windows & boinc & are generally have no problem with boinc. If anything the 920 based PC is slighly unstable buy yet it's the one that works.

So far i've dettached twice & reset once, still nothing.

There must be flags to set in cc_config to diagnose these types of things. Anyone no what they are & how to diagnose them after?

Thanks for reading, the fight continues
10) Message boards : Number crunching : 100% Invalids due to Client error (Message 74137)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by JugNut
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I had the exact same problem. I was forced to quit rosetta due to this. There's something about the new i7s that's causing troubles...


Thanks for you reply Chilean. I found your other posts & it appears we have the same problem. I thought at first maybe GPU-Grid the fly in the ointment but my other i7 920 based PC has no such problems running them both. The funny thing they seem to complete OK no errors as such, they just wont validate an give that annoying client error in the web page results.

Also there are a hand full of 3930's in the top 20 computer in statistics so unless it's just one stepping it's probably not that.

I'm getting nowhere fast, I just did a reset on the machine but now can't get any WU's as I now have a daily limit of just 1.

So the fight continues. A little help from a friendly admin would be nice, but I guess you can't have everything. Any more suggestions?

Crunch on if you can ..JN..
11) Message boards : Number crunching : 100% Invalids due to Client error (Message 74135)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by JugNut
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Hi guys I got a strange one. My intel 3930k based PC is having 100% Invalids due to Client error. The strange thing is I have another older i7 a few feet away with little to no error's. The PC in question has been a rock up till now and it's only rosetta it's having problems with as I can start crunching WCG or another CPU based WU's no problem. I've tried the usual suspects plus detaching re-ataching but still nothing. Nothing in message log either, all seems well at this end but.. Please help. Most like this. link






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