Posts by TheFiend

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta overheating my CPU (Message 112021)
Posted 4 Feb 2025 by TheFiend
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For stability with my crunchers I have never bothered with trying to overclock the RAM, I always leave it at default settings...
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta overheating my CPU (Message 112006)
Posted 31 Jan 2025 by TheFiend
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Now I'm back home on my main Ryzen 7 5800X, where I'm more confident of a recent BIOS update, I find I'm 2.5yrs and 8 BIOS updates behind with all sorts of security fixes not installed <cough>
I'll definitely be updating this one as I believe early versions also fixed problems with 5000-series CPUs running hot, so I daren't imagine how out of date the other one is

I return to discover that my 'problem' PC (i5-9600K) is fully up-to-date with its BIOS in spite of it being a full year older than my 'good' Ryzen (5800X) one was.
So it's not that after all
And it had crashed while I was away in spite of it being set to a BOINC CPU runtime of 90/95% (in use/out of use)
None the wiser...

On a couple of occasions I've had crunchers that started crashing where I've traced the cause down to an SSD starting to fail.... I was using Kingston SSD's at the time. Now I use Samsung.

This 'problem' PC has a Samsung NVME drive. The 'good' one a Kingston iirc.
I appreciate the suggestions, but I can't see it's that.
The flakiest hardware on this PC is its Radeon R7 260 2Gb graphics card - very old and obtained 2nd hand.
When I restarted this PC last night it booted into a very basic 640*480 resolution before a further reboot returned it to 1920*1080

The other factor is memory, which confuses me tbh.
The CPU supports up to 2666MHz, as does the motherboard, but the MB supports up to 4000MHz overclocked.
The DDR4 RAM I have is 3000MHz (1499 base frequency) and is running at 3030MHz (1514.7 base frequency) which is its XMP setting.
That's ok, isn't it?


I would try another graphics card and see if it still crashes like it is currently doing. I used to have an R7 250 but that failed on me about 5 years ago...
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta overheating my CPU (Message 111999)
Posted 31 Jan 2025 by TheFiend
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Now I'm back home on my main Ryzen 7 5800X, where I'm more confident of a recent BIOS update, I find I'm 2.5yrs and 8 BIOS updates behind with all sorts of security fixes not installed <cough>
I'll definitely be updating this one as I believe early versions also fixed problems with 5000-series CPUs running hot, so I daren't imagine how out of date the other one is

I return to discover that my 'problem' PC (i5-9600K) is fully up-to-date with its BIOS in spite of it being a full year older than my 'good' Ryzen (5800X) one was.
So it's not that after all
And it had crashed while I was away in spite of it being set to a BOINC CPU runtime of 90/95% (in use/out of use)
None the wiser...


On a couple of occasions I've had crunchers that started crashing where I've traced the cause down to an SSD starting to fail.... I was using Kingston SSD's at the time. Now I use Samsung.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta overheating my CPU (Message 111992)
Posted 30 Jan 2025 by TheFiend
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I first started overclocking my AMDs directly in the BIOS, before Ryzen Master got invented, and while I have tried Ryzen Master I haven't felt like I had sufficient control of it, so I still do everything directly in the BIOS.
Also I'm not quite sure how Ryzen Master handles the new PBO etc. I'm not sure it provides the same detailed control, certainly not in the same way.

tl;dr No


My history with AMD goes all the way back to the AMD K6-2 400 and I used to overclock in BIOS..... In my opinion Ryzen Master makes it easier to find a stable overclock... I run 2 3900X's and both run very stable on slightly different settings... Both are air-cooled and both are running well below the thermal limit at 100% load 24/7.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta overheating my CPU (Message 111990)
Posted 30 Jan 2025 by TheFiend
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Have you got the latest BIOS on that motherboard?
I avoid BIOS updates like the plague, however I finally bit the bullet & upgraded the BIOS on both of my systems; partly due to security issues, but also because a couple of the updates specifically addressed stability & performance issues.
The BIOS on my motherboards was only 2 versions after the initial release BIOS- the most recently released one while over 3 years old now was about the 6th or 7th BIOS update.
And surprisingly it did improve performance- the all-core 100% load CPU clock was boosted by around 200MHz. Not a lot, but not bad for a freebie (especially when you consider a mid-cycle CPU model refresh often only results in a similar clock boost).

Now I'm back home on my main Ryzen 7 5800X, where I'm more confident of a recent BIOS update, I find I'm 2.5yrs and 8 BIOS updates behind with all sorts of security fixes not installed <cough>
I'll definitely be updating this one as I believe early versions also fixed problems with 5000-series CPUs running hot, so I daren't imagine how out of date the other one is.
It's very likely you've hit on something I didn't consider, so thanks for that nudge.

Edit: And Chipset, LAN, SATA, Audio and VGA drivers, though I'm maybe only 2 versions away on those. It's going to be a long night of upgrades and reboots

I'm back.
By which I mean I upgraded everything (in reverse order to what's listed above) and all was going well until I updated the BIOS.
Well, updating the BIOS went well too, until it completed and asked me if I wanted to switch fTPM on or not before rebooting - making clear it was an important question - but I didn't know what the answer was because I didn't understand the question.
So I kind of guessed.
Not a good idea.
I still had access to the BIOS after, but I couldn't hit the desktop. Restoring saved BIOS settings didn't help either.

Tbf I don't really know whether this was the problem.
I could disable fTPM again in the BIOS, but I still couldn't hit the desktop.
Eventually I noticed the order of booting my drives (NVME and HDD) had been reset and a couple of goes at correcting that finally returned me in one piece.
I could tell I was finally on the right track because, as it turned out, Windows Update had downloaded and partially done its monthly update just as I rebooted to update the BIOS - what were the chances of that? - before completing the installation once the drives were back in the right order.
All this could've gone very wrong and it might be a minor miracle that I escaped without consequences, except to my heart rate.

This is on my 'good' machine btw (the AMD 5800X) not the problem one. That's still to be done <gulp>

So anyway...
Where I was expecting the machine to run cooler, the fact that it was also more stable meant that the clock speed (3.8k default, was running at 4.2k) increased to about 4.375k and so ends up running 5-10C hotter and within 10% of its maximum temp.
So now, when I say it's running at 100% Boinc CPU runtime year-round, I can only reasonably make that claim for this winter. I'll wait to see what the summer brings...

What a palaver...


Have you tried the AMD Ryzen Master app? You can tweak the CPU Core voltage downwards to drop the temperature plus it has a test mode that you can run to see if the tweaks are stable.... I have one of my 3900x running at @4.125MHz,1.3125V .... 63 degrees air-cooled running Rosetta tasks.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta overheating my CPU (Message 111945)
Posted 23 Jan 2025 by TheFiend
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My AMD Ryzen 3900X has no problems running Rosetta at 100% CPU load 24/7 and doesn't get anywhere near 95 Degrees C.... I use the AMD Ryzen Master app to drop the CPU voltage and it have it running very stable at 1.3125V CPU core voltage and the CPU maxing at about 70 Degrees C air-cooled.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107848)
Posted 18 Dec 2022 by TheFiend
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I had the stuck downloading issue too. On Windows x64. I updated my Bonic manager to 7.20.2 and it cleared up the downloading problem. I had been 7.16.11

-ken c


I've had 1 system getting WU and 2 others with stalled downloads. The stalled downloads were on earlier versions of BOINC whereas the other system was a recent build. Now all updated to 7.20.2 and all now crunching!!!
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Discussion of the merits and challenges of using GPUs (Message 102222)
Posted 15 Jul 2021 by TheFiend
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Nice news ... glad to be able to assit in fighting Corona ...

By the way: Any chance that we will get GPU appications, too ?

It's hard to see my CPU struggle at 89°C while my NVIDIA RTX 2080super is on half-astronomic diet, munching away Milkywa@home workunits in 2'30" each while crunching Folding@home in parallel.

Seneca
0=0


WCG has a working GPU app for Covid workunits... I'm running both WCG and Rosetta on my 3 crunchers






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