Posts by Conan

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.1+ and 4.2+ (Message 96694)
Posted 21 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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OK, so back to the topic of the thread...
Conan, my first instinct when I see process can't start sorts of messages is that there is an authority issue, or anti-virus software in the way.


Thanks Mod Sense,

I have changed nothing in relation to rosetta running on my computer, it has been running this project with the same set up for many years. Something in the more recent updates has changed but I can't work out what it is.

I suspect it is a wget issue as another project (Ibercivis2) and I have narrowed it down to that when trying to run in standalone mode.
Wget dropped support for Win XP with version 1.20.0 or 1.20.1 or something like that, so I suspect that is the issue if Rosetta uses wget.
So I wont be running this XP computer here anymore anyway.

Thanks for offering some possible solutions to my problem, few other did.
No help was forthcoming as all they wanted to do was tell me my computer is crappy and too old so don't run it here.
Nice.

Conan
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.1+ and 4.2+ (Message 96692)
Posted 21 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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WinXP:

"Why should I not shake hands with a Corona infected person?"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52192604

"Why use an operating system that has been EOL for years..."
https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hack-like-pro-exploit-and-gain-remote-access-pcs-running-windows-xp-0134709/

People, please stop supporting people that still use XP. That is the only way to finally get rid of it.


@michelv

You are comparing me to being the equivalent of a Corona virus carrier because I use Win XP, That because I use an older operating system I don't deserve any support because I might infect the Rosetta database and wipe out all your computers.
Grow up.
Others seeing these notes might think this is a hostile site and no help will be coming to them if they need it because you don't want them to be helped.
I have as much right to get help as any one else, I have been running this project on and of for 15 Years and always been welcome for my help to the project.

You have been here a few months and telling me I don't deserve help.

I doubt I will bother anymore with this project as there are much friendlier projects that need help and Windows XP still works on them (such as TN-Grid).

They also don't jump down my throat and tell me all my gear is crap and you will infect everyone so leave or update.

I have already given my reasons for continuing to use XP in an earlier post. I also use Linux, have a go at me for that if you want I no longer care.

The hostile reaction I have received has surprised and disappointed me.

To the ones that supported me, thank you.

I may come back in the future, but not for time being.

To my detractors you have your wish and you have driven a long term user from the project, live with that, I am sure the project will thank you.

Bye
Conan
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.1+ and 4.2+ (Message 95640)
Posted 30 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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It's OK everyone.
I am not going to cause a security issue here at Rosetta or anywhere else.
Yes I am using XP, yes it on the net, yes I connect to BOINC projects and yes I do some web searches now and then.

It is not really an issue, that computer is behind a router + Firewall and also my Anti-Virus programme that is always up to date.
I have not had problems with this.

it mainly does BOINC and it still works.

When and if the upgrade comes that I dream about then I might consider retiring it or as suggested put Linux on it, time will tell.

Thanks for your concerns, valid reasons all noted.
Can't do much about it at the moment.

Hopefully a cure for this Covid 19 virus comes along and the world becomes a happier place.

Thanks again
Conan
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.1+ and 4.2+ (Message 95573)
Posted 29 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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Thanks Millenium for the reply, However the comment does not solve my problem.

Why use XP in 2020, because it still works, does what I want it to (mostly) and is installed on a computer that is pushing 10 years old.
There is no need to change if something isn't broken then why fix it. Plus life and finances sometimes dictate what a person is able to do outside what they have to do.
It is mainly used for web browsing and Boinc.

I have been a member of Rosetta since 2005 and have not had issues like this before unless on Ralph where they are supposed to occur.
My linux machine is busy doing other things, so I will go back to TN-Grid, work units there work fine with no errors.

Not to worry plenty of other things to do.

Have a good day
Conan
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.1+ and 4.2+ (Message 95536)
Posted 29 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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Have come back to Rosetta after a bit of a break.
Using the same computer that I have used before (Windows 32 bit XP OS with 4 cores) but all work units are failing to start.

Get the message couldn't start app: CreateProcess() failed - (unknown error)

Stopped the virus scanner from scanning the Boinc files but this has made no difference. Also upgraded to a much later Boinc version but to no avail.

Is it a memory issue? Being 32 bit I have less than 4 GB available.

Conan
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.0+ (Message 89087)
Posted 10 Jun 2018 by Profile Conan
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Could be this is your problem (and mine...) but don't hold your breath for a fix.


No I wont be holding my breath, as that report, with the same error I have is from the 1st Feb 2018, so no fix for this 32 Bit issue for almost 3 months now.

And all the Ralph work units I have been given that have also failed with the same error have also not been fixed. What is the point of a test project when things are not tested?
No point at all.

Conan


Any progress on the 32 bit Rosetta 4.07 errors?

Rosetta Mini runs fine, so possibly a compiling issue or made for 64 bit instead of 32 bit?

All Rosetta 4.07 work units fail on my 32 bit XP Windows machine, this is on both Ralph and Rosetta.

Linux runs fine as well.

Conan


This issue is still occuring since the 1st of Feburary 2018 (see begining of this thread).

Still getting Rosetta@home | [error] Process creation failed: (unknown error) - error code 193 (0xc1)

Also posted on the 1/2/18 after the first report of this issue was a possible reason for the error that has not been taken up it appears, " Looks like Rosetta 4.06 (4.07) has been compiled using Visual Studio 2015 which does not create XP compatiable programme files"

Could this be the issue?

Rosetta Mini runs without an issue and I have no problems with my Linux machines with either Rosetta Mini or Rosetta work units.

Both Ralph and Rosetta are affected, this fault should of been picked up over at Ralph first before then being released here at Rosetta.

Thanks
Conan
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7) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.0+ (Message 88869)
Posted 12 May 2018 by Profile Conan
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Could be this is your problem (and mine...) but don't hold your breath for a fix.


No I wont be holding my breath, as that report, with the same error I have is from the 1st Feb 2018, so no fix for this 32 Bit issue for almost 3 months now.

And all the Ralph work units I have been given that have also failed with the same error have also not been fixed. What is the point of a test project when things are not tested?
No point at all.

Conan


Any progress on the 32 bit Rosetta 4.07 errors?

Rosetta Mini runs fine, so possibly a compiling issue or made for 64 bit instead of 32 bit?

All Rosetta 4.07 work units fail on my 32 bit XP Windows machine, this is on both Ralph and Rosetta.

Linux runs fine as well.

Conan
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.0+ (Message 88743)
Posted 23 Apr 2018 by Profile Conan
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Could be this is your problem (and mine...) but don't hold your breath for a fix.


No I wont be holding my breath, as that report, with the same error I have is from the 1st Feb 2018, so no fix for this 32 Bit issue for almost 3 months now.

And all the Ralph work units I have been given that have also failed with the same error have also not been fixed. What is the point of a test project when things are not tested?
No point at all.

Conan
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.0+ (Message 88739)
Posted 23 Apr 2018 by Profile Conan
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All 32 bit work units on both this main project and on Ralph test project, all fail with the "Can't Create Process" error.

I have checked my anti-virus and it does not appear to be blocking.
Only the "Rosetta" tasks are failing , the "Rosetta Mini" tasks are running fine.

Linux is OK.

Conan


Any headway on this 32 bit issue?

64 bit on Linux runs fine for both work unit types.

Both Rosetta and Ralph have the same issue with the Rosetta work units.
Rosetta Mini works fine on both projects.

Could it be that the Rosetta work units are not Win32 valid applications?
And should be re-compiled as 32 Bit as they appear to be 64 Bit instead.

I am running Windows XP 32 Bit on the computer that can't run the Rosetta work unit type.

An answer would be nice as it has been over 10 days now.

thanks
Conan
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.0+ (Message 88694)
Posted 13 Apr 2018 by Profile Conan
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All 32 bit work units on both this main project and on Ralph test project, all fail with the "Can't Create Process" error.

I have checked my anti-virus and it does not appear to be blocking.
Only the "Rosetta" tasks are failing , the "Rosetta Mini" tasks are running fine.

Linux is OK.

Conan
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 80906)
Posted 15 Dec 2016 by Profile Conan
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I have aborted it, Thanks for your help. I've never noticed this happening in the many years I have been contributing to this project, I'll keep a closer eye on runtimes in the future.

Steve


Sometimes just suspending and resuming a task like that can get them running correctly again.
They seem to get stuck in a loop, check the task manager to see if CPU is being used as it might be "running" but not actually doing anything and not using a CPU core.

Conan
12) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : MAJOR UPDATES to the Rosetta@home website (Message 80860)
Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile Conan
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It looks a bit like the "Bootstrap" functionality that has been introducted over at yafu, apparently going to be fully included into BOINC some time soon?

The Yafu site is functional and clean so this one should be OK to understand when done.

Conan
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Pls help, my 1 hour tasks wont be uploaded (Message 71496)
Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile Conan
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we are on it-should be fixed soon. David


G'Day David,
While you are at it can you get someone to have a look at the Ralph server as well, it has a Shared Memory issue and no work can be uploaded.
So far there has been no response on the Ralph board.

Thanks

Conan
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Results pending and results still uploading (Message 65387)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile Conan
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Since 20 February my results that have been uploaded are still pending for credit. That is not a problem as it could take a few daqys. However since last night finished WU's are still uploading.
This is a part of messages:
22/02/2010 12:41:30 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks
22/02/2010 12:41:46 rosetta@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name
22/02/2010 12:42:46 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
22/02/2010 12:42:46 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks
22/02/2010 12:43:02 rosetta@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name

Can someone of the dev please look at this?
Thanks.


I also have added a message under Server Problems about the Pending Issue.
I now have over 2 pages of Pending work units.

The message about "Couldn't Resolve Host Name" usually means that your local Internet connection has been interrupted towards the Boinc Server and your local Boinc Client (on your computer) can't talk to the Rosetta Server.

I am not getting that message myself so I can talk to the servers (from Australia), but I have gotten it in the past for short periods even though I can still use my own internet quite OK.

I would say it is an issue with the Rosetta Boinc server losing it's internet connection or a problem with their internet Provider, but also check that your own internet is still working OK.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : SERVER PROBLEMS - 2. (Message 65385)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile Conan
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Hi.

I just noticed this, as i have a few tasks sitting their waiting.

And the flop's are dropping like a stone!

rah_validator_mini__bk1__Not running


problems>>>>>>>> see here

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_status.php


Yes still a problem as my Pendings have been climbing for the last two days and the validator seems to still have a problem (it is still in RED and not running).
16) Message boards : Number crunching : SERVER PROBLEMS - 2. (Message 65356)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile Conan
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I have had a few scheduler request failures saying a Timeout was reached.
And that the project servers maybe down.

A short while later (sometimes an hour) I can usually then get through with downloads and uploads working again.

Possibly a Rosetta network issue as my Internet connection has not failed and BOINC in fact says it is OK and that the Project servers are at fault.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Receiving Low Credit on a 8/16 Core System! Help! (Message 63176)
Posted 6 Sep 2009 by Profile Conan
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The credit granted at Rosetta is below par, has been for a very long time.
One of the reasons I have virtually stopped doing this project, which was one of my favorites, my loyalties have moved to other places now.
It seems the way to get good credit on this project is to have a fast recent computer and return the work units very quickly, as first returned gets what they claim, it averages all work after that.

Getting 13 credits for 6 hours work is not inspiring.

Just check Rosetta against World Community Grid, Rosetta has more connected users and computers but has one third the credit output.


I am getting 12 credits for about 30 to 40 minutes of work on Virtual Prairie. They are fixed credits over there.


Well Rosetta can be worse than I have written with 13 credits an hour as a higher return, as it can be as low as 7.5 cr/h (45 credits for 6 hours) or as 'high' as 15.5 cr/h (93 credits for 6 hours).
Still on the low side for returns.

Your figures work out at 24 cr/h to 18 cr/h, so still much higher than Rosetta.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Receiving Low Credit on a 8/16 Core System! Help! (Message 63151)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile Conan
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The credit granted at Rosetta is below par, has been for a very long time.
One of the reasons I have virtually stopped doing this project, which was one of my favorites, my loyalties have moved to other places now.
It seems the way to get good credit on this project is to have a fast recent computer and return the work units very quickly, as first returned gets what they claim, it averages all work after that.

Getting 13 credits for 6 hours work is not inspiring.

Just check Rosetta against World Community Grid, Rosetta has more connected users and computers but has one third the credit output.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : RALPH down a couple of days (Message 62778)
Posted 5 Aug 2009 by Profile Conan
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As I am getting no response from the Ralph forum, I am posting here.
Have been unable to upload results to Ralph for a couple of days now.
Getting "Server Error: Can't attach shared memory"

Only Web pages and a few other processes running, all other parts of the server are in Red.

Can this be passed on to the RALPH team to fix please.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Is RALPH down? (Message 60040)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile Conan
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Still no news on Ralph@home ???

I am still unable to contact web site or the servers.

Ralph is a Rosetta@home project, so why is there no news about this outage ???


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