Posts by O&O

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Report stuck & aborted WU here please (Message 11164)
Posted 22 Feb 2006 by Profile O&O
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Hello David

PRODUCTION_ABINITIO_1acf__250_809_2

My computer did 13.32 hours on this WU ... before it errored out with -177 (0xffffff4f) Exit status and \"Maximum CPU time exceeded\".

What about the ... 131.16 cliamed credits?

Regards,
O&O
2) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10536)
Posted 7 Feb 2006 by Profile O&O
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The first setting that usually needs adjusting is the queue length. The maximum recomened queue length is 40% of the shortest deadline divided by the number of projects. The deadlines are commonly 7 days here and that is likely the shortest you have to deal with. It will take approximately 2 times the previous queue length for the client to settle into a groove.

If that doesn\'t help then increase the resource share for Rosetta. You most likely want to do this in small increments so that you don\'t have this same problem on a different project.

It also would help if you are set up to run always. Also if possible leave applications in memory.


Thank you very much KK for your advise.

To begin with, I changed the sitting of the cache on the projects I\'m running now (RAH, PG and WCG-FAAH) to 1 day ... each.

I\'ll wait until the current cache is empty of RAH WUs and act from there with the rest of ... solutions you provided.

Again,... thanks for your time and ... for being here.

O&O
3) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10535)
Posted 7 Feb 2006 by Profile O&O
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Becasuse, based on your preferences and your resource shares etc. The project should not send you work.


WIthout knowing more about what projects, connect interval, and what the resource shares are on any of them it is not possible for anyone to advise you....


Thanks Paul.

O&O
4) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10525)
Posted 7 Feb 2006 by Profile O&O
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Becasuse, based on your preferences and your resource shares etc. The project should not send you work.


I see

...And based on your knowledge and respect to the science which BOINC resemples, what modification should I do to \"the preferences and resource shares etc.\" so this project seneds to my computer work whenever should there be a room for it?

O&O (I think I\'m evolving into something very special with thses wings)
5) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10516)
Posted 6 Feb 2006 by Profile O&O
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an update:

Living with the \"note\" everytime I\'m out of R@H WUs, I finally managed to have me some... and the secret is to Detach from the the project and then re-attach to it again (in a matter of seconds) without changing my previous prefrences without quitting any other project.

And guess what?...17 WUs are currently downloading together with Rosetta 4.81 application.

The question is, if the client finds that my computer has a room for this amount of R@H works then why it gives the \"Note: not requesting new work or reporting results\" when my computer runs out of it?

O&O (Adopting the new Rosetta life concept...the At-De-At-tach)
6) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10302)
Posted 1 Feb 2006 by Profile O&O
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Do you have work from any project? If so, how much? What are the deadlines? What is the long term debt of the projects (from the client_state.xml, BOINCView, or BOINCDebtView)?


Now I have 315900 (3:14:59 x 27) seconds of PrimeGrid with 2/14/2006 as deadline.

And BOINC DV reports the following LTD ...

PRJ: ROSETTA@HO STD: 0.000000 LTD: -21921.909536 RSRC: 400 -------------------------------
PRJ: PIRATES@HO STD: 0.000000 LTD: 105015.606196 RSRC: 200 -------------------------------
PRJ: PRIMEGRID STD: 0.000000 LTD: -83093.696659 RSRC: 400 -------------------------------

O&O
7) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10283)
Posted 31 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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(To Make things easy)

I run ...
R@H with 400% Rsource Share and 2 days Work Cache
Pirates with 200% RS and 2 days WC
And PrimeGrid with 400% RS and 2 days WC

... and I \"reset\" the three project one after another in the same order above ... then I hit the \"Retry communications\" through the BOINC client/ Command tab ...

Knowing that Pirates rarely have WU to send, guess which project received 345600 seconds of new work with 2/14/2006 as deadline and which one reported ... \"Note: not requesting new work or reporting results\"?

O&O
8) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10278)
Posted 31 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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Hi ...

Any time you initiate an update through manual intervention such as clicking \"Update\" on the projects tab of the BOINC manager, you will get that message unless you actually have results to upload.

All it means is that the update contact with the server was not for the purpose of automatically obtaining new work or uploading and reporting any results.


Then, ...when will the client be able to automatically report/upload results and obtain new ones when there is NOW no \"work\" to work on?

If you are running other project on that machine, it may be that there is so much work present that the machine would not have time to load new work and still meet the deadlines for new R@H work. That would prevent the download until such time as the system could free up some time to devote to R@H.


I said \"even when my work cache is completely empty\"... and I meant \"empty\" from WUs of whatsoever!

What\'s your definition for the right \"time\"?

O&O (I was only able to read your reply when I hit the [Reply to this post],... I\'m color blind you know)
9) Message boards : Number crunching : The At-De-At-tach ... concept! (Message 10274)
Posted 31 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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Hi ...

I keep on receiving the ...
1/31/2006 9:44:27 PM|rosetta@home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results
...everytime I make an \"update\"...even when my work cache is completely empty and no matter how many times I \"reset\" the project?

Network usage
Connect to network about every
(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 2 days

Computer summary
CPU type GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Number of CPUs 2
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, 05.01.2600.00)

Memory 501.96 MB
Cache 976.56 KB
Swap space 1228.68 MB
Total disk space 39.06 GB
Free Disk Space 31.5 GB
Use no more than 100 GB disk space
Leave at least 0.1 GB disk space free
Use no more than 50% of total disk space
Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory

Measured floating point speed 1920.73 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 2909.75 million ops/sec
Average turnaround time 2.47 days
Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 100/day
Last time contacted server 31 Jan 2006 18:44:25 UTC
Average CPU efficiency 0.969474
Result duration correction factor 1.067268

Thanking you in advance

O&O
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Report stuck work units here (Message 8764)
Posted 11 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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David,...

I have two INCREASE_CYCLES_10_1xxx_226_xxxx_0 (Same Batch I presume) in a \"ready to run\" status, should I abort?

Thanks,
O&O
11) Message boards : Number crunching : what kind of a wu name is... (Message 8572)
Posted 8 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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You can also read an explaination on these types of results ... HERE

O&O (Anxiously waiting for the NO_MORE_RELAX_CYCLES results to run)
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Report stuck work units here (Message 8571)
Posted 8 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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These \"stuck at 1%\" results _seem_ to restart and complete successfully if you exit BOINC and relaunch it. The project has not said that credit will be granted if you abort them, so I can\'t advise that - it would help them locate the problem, however, if you could get the last 20 lines from the stdout.txt file in the slots directory and paste them here before you relaunch BOINC.


Thanks Bill.

I did abort the result before having the chance to read your advise... which resulted ...
07/01/2006 17:14:42|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result MORE_FRAGS_W_BARCODE_2reb_229_6182_0 (aborted via GUI RPC)
07/01/2006 17:14:43|rosetta@home|Computation for result MORE_FRAGS_W_BARCODE_2reb_229_6182_0 finished

Reporting 2 good results for Rosetta or PrimeGrid...probably 5 hours of CPU crunching time be added to a Climateprediction unit if this result was not a...stuck...turns to be a waste of a normal BOINC operation.

The project did not say that by crunching its results you may experience a lower Average creditis/day neither, did it?

Until \"they\" locate the problems causing such \"abnormalities\", I\'ll be allowing 30 minutes to have a Rosetta result...progresses beyond the 1%...otherwise I\'ll abort it.

O&O (Systems management 101: Kill the monster while it is young)
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Report stuck work units here (Message 8537)
Posted 7 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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Hi,...

MORE_FRAGS_W_BARCODE_2reb_229_6182_0 (Result ID 5827255) been running for 5:30 CPU time, with 1% progress and more than 12 hours to completion. Should I Abort? ... be Credited?

O&O
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Please abort WUs with (Message 8405)
Posted 5 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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15) Message boards : Number crunching : Please abort WUs with (Message 8383)
Posted 4 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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I aborted DEFAULT_1n0u_218_344_8...
For the reason..in bold.

Did I do the right thing?

O&O
16) Message boards : Number crunching : MD5 Check, Checksum or Signature errors (Message 8353)
Posted 4 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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Mostly that you are having network problems. One of the symptoms will be interrupted downloads leading to MD5 errors (the file is only partly downloaded).


\"interrupted downloads\" ... like selecting the command \"network activity suspended\" ...while some of WUs being downloaded ... then resuming the connection after a while?

Wouldn\'t the \"Use network only between\" t1 and t2 hours cause similar \"symptoms\" at t2?

There are explanations for the error messages in the Wiki and a starting trouble shooting guide for network problems in the How-To section. The network types will want some of the inforation that that guide will help you generate ...


Thanks for making the...BOINC Wiki.

O&O
17) Message boards : Number crunching : MD5 Check, Checksum or Signature errors (Message 8270)
Posted 3 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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.....??!

Were my WUs problems this stupid/complecated so not to have an answer to what might be causing them?

O&O (D\'uh!)
18) Message boards : Number crunching : MD5 Check, Checksum or Signature errors (Message 8147)
Posted 2 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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This one happend earlier...
NO_SIM_ANNEAL_1hz6_228_4142_0


Because of a signature error in input file ...
01/01/2006 22:33:42|rosetta@home|Checksum or signature error for 1hz6A.psipred_ss2.gz

O&O
19) Message boards : Number crunching : MD5 Check, Checksum or Signature errors (Message 8143)
Posted 1 Jan 2006 by Profile O&O
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Hi, I thought of letting you know.

I got...

02/01/2006 01:16:40|rosetta@home|MD5 check failed for aa1hz6A03_05.400_v1_3.gz
02/01/2006 01:16:40|rosetta@home|expected e9684696057c3e17b50c7d6208e4a9e7, got 70f1dca4f8dafa6794769e03a0648ee0
02/01/2006 01:16:40|rosetta@home|Checksum or signature error for aa1hz6A03_05.400_v1_3.gz

02/01/2006 01:20:48|rosetta@home|MD5 check failed for aa2tif_09_05.400_v1_3.gz
02/01/2006 01:20:48|rosetta@home|expected a96ff4abfbb7aa085796a20d717049ed, got db82c62ff38bb19a6b7fd85917dce1e3
02/01/2006 01:20:48|rosetta@home|Checksum or signature error for aa2tif_09_05.400_v1_3.gz

Which resulted on having...\"Unrecoverable error\" for results ...
MORE_FRAGS_W_BARCODE_2tif_229_4142_0
NO_SIM_ANNEAL_2tif_228_3565_1

This one happend earlier...
NO_SIM_ANNEAL_1hz6_228_4142_0

Any idea?

Thanks

Edit: While the outcome of this WU (a bit short time)... was success.
NO_SIM_ANNEAL_1b72_228_4131_0

O&O
20) Message boards : Number crunching : No New Work (Message 7926)
Posted 29 Dec 2005 by Profile O&O
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Why are you mad at Predictor?


Lack of communication from project staff on anything _important_ ... I gave up and detached. I\'ll check back in a few months.

Me too ...

Broken record here, but the time to talk to the participants is part of the cost of the \"free\" resource. Keep me interested, or I will go elsewhere ... a seller\'s market. As a reasonably long supporter of DC projects (since 19 Jul 2000 at 15:31:49 UTC to be precise) I was \"locked in\" to single projects. With BOINC, I can drop a project in seconds and add a new one ...

But, that is why *I* am mad at Predictor@Home ... :)


Me Three ...
For all of the above ...

For finding out, even though it takes less time to crunch WUs (More results for them), hense, offers my computers back the lowest Credits / 1 sec of CPU time when compared to other projects.

Credits/1 sec of CPU time
PrimeGrid = 0.0027414
RAH = 0.0027373
uFluids = 0.0022636
SAH = 0.0020286
Predictor = 0.0017698

It is a waste of resources.

And ...
For reading this in their Q&A in response to the demanding inquiries from the participants to have screen savers:

\"At the moment there are other issues that we feel are of a greater priority, so the screen saver is on the back burner.\"

They have other issues that they feel of a greater priority...than what the participants are doing for them ...what they simply want back.

For all of the above...
I feel that my greatest Periority is: To keep on detached.

O&O (A tangled heap of unpleasantness...Good grief, What-a-Mess! )


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