Posts by epcorian

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 61082)
Posted 10 May 2009 by epcorian
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Just FYI. I quit crunching Mini Rosetta while I waited for a new version and while I don't know what changes were made, I now crunch v1.67 Mini Rosetta flawlessly! No more compute errors in Vista 64 on either of my machines!! I can overclock, throttle processors, do pretty much anything I like and its all good! Thanks!
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59741)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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I got a trial version of Server 2008 64-bit and it crunches no problem... I guess it just doesn't like my Vista 64...oh well, I'm done playing now.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59642)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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I tried 64bit BOINC 6.6.7 with Vista and it didn't work for me... As stable as XP 64 is I don't like how Remote Desktop is behaving so I'm going to stick with Vista, I thought about switching to Linux and running Ubuntu but I find Linux a pain in my ass being Windows born and bread. I might try a trial version of Server 2008 x64 just for curiosity sake, I'll be choked if it works because I won't be able to keep it as there is no way I'm paying $1000 for server!!

4) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59611)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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So this weekend I installed a fresh copy of XP x64, upgraded it to SP2, installed my x64 version of NOD32 antivirus, told BOINC to use "...use at most 75% of the processors" meaning 3 of 4 cores on my Q6600 and it's crunching Mini's and Beta's without a problem! 1 successful Beta, 5 successful Mini's with 4 more coming down the pipe. So it looks like Mini does not like Vista x64 and on my adventures on google, it turns out that XP x64 is actually based on the Server 2003 code tree while Vista is based on crap. :)
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Minirosetta v1.54 (Message 59610)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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I think I spoke too soon...that first WU crunched successfully but only 1 other was WU successful out of the 8 WU's. 2/8, better but still not good. I might try replacing Vista 64 with XP 64 another weekend when I'm bored. Just for curiosity sake I had my P4 and Atom 330 PC's running 32-bit XP SP3 crunch some Mini's and they did just fine.


So this weekend I installed a fresh copy of XP x64, upgraded it to SP2, installed my x64 version of NOD32 antivirus, told BOINC to use "...use at most 75% of the processors" meaning 3 of 4 cores on my Q6600 and it's crunching Mini's and Beta's without a problem! 1 successful Beta, 5 successful Mini's with 4 more coming down the pipe. So it looks like Mini does not like Vista x64 and on my adventures on google, it turns out that XP x64 is actually based on the Server 2003 code tree while Vista is based on crap. :)
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Minirosetta v1.54 (Message 59428)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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So I took Mod.Sense's advice and downgraded to the 6.2.19 64-bit version of the BOINC client and so far so good with the mini's, I've crunched with 30 minutes thus far and no errors yet, much better then the 30-60 seconds I was getting before.


ALRIGHT!!! Glad you guys found the problem, I guess the reports of the newer versions being released without proper testing were true in your case.


I think I spoke too soon...that first WU crunched successfully but only 1 other was WU successful out of the 8 WU's. 2/8, better but still not good. I might try replacing Vista 64 with XP 64 another weekend when I'm bored. Just for curiosity sake I had my P4 and Atom 330 PC's running 32-bit XP SP3 crunch some Mini's and they did just fine.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Minirosetta v1.54 (Message 59409)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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So I took Mod.Sense's advice and downgraded to the 6.2.19 64-bit version of the BOINC client and so far so good with the mini's, I've crunched with 30 minutes thus far and no errors yet, much better then the 30-60 seconds I was getting before.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59408)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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Thanks guys, I think I've got it working utilizing all 4 cores, but it's still early, I am just crunching my first WU of 8 Mini's...so far it has run 30 minutes without crashing and burning! Much better then the typical 30-60 seconds I was getting before.

My solution, downgrade to the 6.2.19 64-bit of the BOINC client. I'll let you know if I can successfully crunch a mini!

Then I will see if I can restrict to 3 of 4 cores and still successfully crunch.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Minirosetta v1.54 (Message 59376)
Posted 6 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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That's right, the Q6600 isn't overclocked, the system contains a Intel DQ35JO MB, Q6600 Processor, 4GB (2x2GB) Kingston Value Ram, Corsair HX-520W PS, 36GB WD Raptor HD, 2x750GB WD HD's in RAID 1, and a Zalman HSF running Vista 64 SP1, no external video card. I use it as a home file and print server and recently a BOINC cruncher as I leave it on 24/7. No issues with Beta WU's or SETI.

I do have NOD32 installed on there but I tried disabling it (I haven't gone as far to uninstall it) and they would still fail.

Maybe I should try an older version of the BOINC client, I will give it a go this weekend and post back.

Thanks!
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Minirosetta v1.54 (Message 59371)
Posted 6 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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Mod.Sense had asked me to posts my results in here. A little history, I've been getting Compute Error's for every Minirosetta WU I try and crunch, they usually crash and burn within the first 60 seconds or so...I am running a Q6600 with everything running at stock speeds but I was throttling my processor to use only 3 of 4 cores, so it was suggested that I let all 4 cores run unthrottled and here's what happenned:

I changed it to: "On multiprocessor systems, use at most 100% of the processors" so that it would run completely unthrottled and use all 4 cores. And I let it download minirosetta WU's and it got 5 of them and all failed after 0:33, 1:39, 0:56, 0:38, and last one at 0:51 crashed with a Vista popup saying "minirosetta_1.54_windows_x86_64.exe has stopped working"

So it didn't seem to help, I don't know what else to try but I'm little ashamed of all the compute errors when you look at my results page..so I think I may have to give up on minirosetta and just stick to Beta WU's, they seem to work great when I'm not messing around with the BOINC client.

I think it may have something to do with Vista 64. Because I have an E8500 running Vista 64 and they fail on there too but the E8500 is throttled to 1 core and is OC'ed from 3.16Ghz to 3.8Ghz (I've been told OC'ing will effect minirosetta) but the E8500 is my gaming rig so I don't mind if it doesn't crunch WU's because it's crunching games! :)
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59370)
Posted 6 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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I changed it to: "On multiprocessor systems, use at most 100% of the processors" so that it would run completely unthrottled and use all 4 cores. And I let it download minirosetta WU's and it got 5 of them and all failed after 0:33, 1:39, 0:56, 0:38, and last one at 0:51 crashed with a Vista popup saying "minirosetta_1.54_windows_x86_64.exe has stopped working"

I don't know what else to do to get minirosetta working but I have to say that I'm ashamed of looking at my results screen and seeing compute error all over the place! I don't think its fair to this project and all the successful crunchers to keep piling up errors! I seem to be able to crunch Beta WU's okay as long as I don't start messing with settings and starting/stopping the beta crunching so maybe I will just stick with those.

I think Vista 64 is most likely my culprit...

Thanks for the help everyone!
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59344)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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Oh and to answer your question, yes, if I had 4 tasks, 3 would be running and the 4th would be sitting there saying "Waiting to run" or "Ready to start"
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59341)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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Also, ensure the setting of "On multiprocessor systems, use at most ___% of the processors" to 100% in BAM's "AdvancedPreferences|processor usage" tab seems to be a factor.


Mine is set like this right now: "On multiprocessor systems, use at most 75% of the processors"

Is there a different way of telling it to use just only 3 of 4 cores instead of setting it to 75%?

Regardless, I will change it to use 100% when I get home from work and post back here and in the debug thread.

If it's possible to get working, I would like to only use 3 of 4 cores but I'll worry about that later once we figure out what is going on.

Thanks!
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59338)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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Hey guys, thanks for help.

I'm not OC'ing my Q6600, everything is running at stock speeds.

But I do have my processor throttled to 75% so that it only uses 3 of the 4 cores for BOINC projects, I will see if changing it to 100% makes a difference, thanks for the tip.

15) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59313)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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Me again, memtest passed with no errors, so I fired up BOINC and it downloaded 5 Minirosetta v1.54 work units and they all failed in less then a minute...the same as they did before.

Any ideas?? I don't want to give up on Rosetta as I think it actually makes a difference.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta v1.54 Compute Errors (Message 59312)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by epcorian
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I just noticed last night that both my PC's are getting compute errors with minirosetta, like its bad, real bad, my apologies for all the failed WU's. I usually crunch SETI with no problems and just the other day I decided to crunch Rosetta part time so this all new to me. I've noticed that my Beta's don't fail, but the Mini's fail almost instantly on both PC's. I keep getting an Exit status of -1073741819 (0xc0000005), you can see the full output on Workunit 206160079 if you look under the Task ID 226196786.

So to fix this so far on my Q6600 PC I have:
Updated my bios.
Updated my motherboard drivers in Windows.
Updated my graphics driver.
Updated my DirectX 10.
Made sure graphics are turned off.
Uninstalled and reinstalled BOINC x64 as I am running Vista 64.
Reset the Rosetta project.
Now I am just waiting for memtest86+ to finish, as we speak 40% done, no errors yet.

Then I will try and hopefully crunch a Mini unit successfully. Oh and I do have it set to leave applications in memory when switching, I have 4GB of RAM in my Q6600 PC.

Is anything else I am missing?

Thanks,
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