Posts by Cartoonman

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with given CA certificates (Message 97011)
Posted 31 May 2020 by Cartoonman
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Update for everyone reading this thread (esp. Android users):

A Github issue has been made and BOINC maintainers have been alerted. Please see https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/3789 for details.

Currently there are workarounds available for Windows and Linux (and possibly Mac as well). Android currently does not appear to have a viable workaround, and an APK update is being pressured.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Running on a 4GB Raspberry Pi 4 - How to? (Message 94066)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Cartoonman
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Unfortunately Rosetta doesn't speaking about ARM64 issues like on RPi4 which is fighting overheating problems from the beginning without any load on CPU so it has a big chance Rosetta app will kill that boards shortly. Be careful if you would take care about your RPi4.


RPi4's aren't the only ARM64 devices on the market. Many mobile phones as well as other single-board computers run ARM64, including powerful compute SoM's like Nvidia Jetsons, which do come with large heatsinks. The issue of overheating is specifically a RPi4 problem, not an ARM64 problem.

I'd hope RPi4 owners would be aware of CPU overheating issues, since they were prevalent long before this, but the advice holds true for any compute device that doesn't have the proper thermal controls to dissipate heat.

As a final point, it's stated here under Liability: [https://boinc.bakerlab.org/info.php]

Rosetta@home and University of Washington assume no liability for damage to your computer, loss of data, or any other event or condition that may occur as a result of participating in Rosetta@home.


Most if not all BOINC projects (along with virtually all software nowadays) carry the same liability for much of the same reasons: avoiding issues from users that run their programs and don't ensure proper thermal controls that damage their hardware.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : 0 new tasks, Rosetta? (Message 93459)
Posted 5 Apr 2020 by Cartoonman
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Folks, please give the UW team time. They're getting WU's out as soon as they reasonably can. It's important to issue useful work, not just have work for the sake of working. As others have suggested, you can set your BOINC resource share such that Rosetta@Home is prioritized when work is available, and fallback to a secondary project when work is not available.

See https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533&postid=92757#92757
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta running on ARM platforms (Message 93337)
Posted 4 Apr 2020 by Cartoonman
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If you go into Preferences and click on "Show advanced preferences and controls", it will enable an option called "Pause computation when screen is on". You can click this to disable it so you can see if the tasks do indeed run.
5) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Prioritisation of COVID-19 work units (Message 92078)
Posted 19 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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If it alleviates people's fears, all of my machines have recently obtained work units that look like

7py5zi2i_3h3_design_COVID-19_SAVE_ALL_OUT_902607

I think it's pretty clear by the name what it's for. I wouldn't worry so much over the names. Some COVID-19 related tasks were robetta jobs, which only look like rb_xx_xx_XXXXX_XXXXX_... , but you would never know.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : error rb_03_16_18636_18455_ab_t000__robetta_cstwt_1.0_IGNORE_THE_REST_11_13_902208_13_0 (Message 92070)
Posted 18 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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Yea I got a couple of those the other day, and they all had the same issue. I aborted the ones that didn't yet start.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Stalled downloads (Message 92009)
Posted 16 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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Will using "abort transfer" truly clear the problem WU out so more jobs can be downloaded? Thanks.



I do both abort transfer and abort task just to ensure it's 'totally aborted'. Then manually updating the project should clear the queue and download new tasks.

I've only encountered stuck download queue behavior on my Linux boxes, where BOINC still thinks there are stalled downloads, despite me having cleared them. A restart of the boincmgr fixes that issue.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Stalled downloads (Message 91989)
Posted 15 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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I've been getting these stalled downloads for the past week on all 3 of my machines. I've had to manually check and clear out the downloads, since they never self-resolve even with retries. I'm still getting them today. Windows and Linux apps.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Is Rosetta still issuing COVID-19 relataed workunits? (Message 91935)
Posted 11 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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I should also stress that just because a job may not have 'nCoV' or 'coronavirus' in the name does not mean it is definitely not related to nCoV efforts (Who's to say 'Target 12345' isn't related?). Researchers can't develop or test treatments to ailments if they only study the ailment. So I would treat any and all jobs submitted via robetta as benefiting protein research in realtime, including contemporary nCoV efforts.
10) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 91907)
Posted 9 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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Sorry, no way to request specific types of work units. So be sure to keep in mind that any non-COVID-19 work units are helping develop the tool that was able to provide such an immediate and accurate structure prediction of the virus.


Exactly. All work will only serve to improve Protein Folding science and capability, which will help the field in the long run produce accurate results even faster.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Is Rosetta still issuing COVID-19 relataed workunits? (Message 91905)
Posted 9 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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Just some recent examples from yesterday March 8th if you're not convinced:

Already Completed:
http://robetta.bakerlab.org/results.php?id=17804
http://robetta.bakerlab.org/results.php?id=17803
http://robetta.bakerlab.org/results.php?id=17801


Still Active (as of this post):
http://robetta.bakerlab.org/results.php?id=17823

List of all currently active Robetta jobs: http://robetta.bakerlab.org/queue.php?id=&target=&status=active
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Is Rosetta still issuing COVID-19 relataed workunits? (Message 91904)
Posted 9 Mar 2020 by Cartoonman
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The short answer is yes, such workunits are still being issued, but not necessarily by SSGCID.

The longer answer is that researchers are submitting work through the http://robetta.bakerlab.org/ Robetta protein structure prediction service, which means among such occasional work on nCoV, there are also other jobs for various other proteins by other researchers. You can peruse the queue at http://robetta.bakerlab.org/queue.php (although at the moment it seems to be having trouble loading).

Robetta WU's start with
rb_Month_Day_TaskID_DomainID_*
For example:
rb_03_07_17775_17595_*
and can be referenced in the queue by the taskID and DomainID.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 75761)
Posted 14 Jun 2013 by Cartoonman
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This one ran for a very long time, and all I got out of it was 20 credits. :I


http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=587016069




Apparently there was a cos/sin out of bounds error, except it didn't error out the WU, it just kept it running on full for 27 hours, with the same error over and over. It would explain why after crunching for nearly 7 hours it still didn't make a checkpoint.






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