Posts by mrhastyrib

61) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 101104)
Posted 6 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Maybe you should have the occasional day off from your disgusting levels or personal entitlement too.


You said it yourself: there's a lot of diversity here. Some people are easygoing; others are more anal for whatever reason.

Me, I have obsessive-compulsive tendencies, so it rubs me the wrong way when I can't get the idealized version of Rosetta participation that I envision. Some people might find that disgusting. I know that others dislike the use of "@" and the slag use of "dude." People have bad days sometimes, and it's easy to take it out on an online project that seems to be more machine than human.

Speaking of Easter and bad days, just for kicks, I bought some cool egg decorating kits, which contained markers, stickers, stencils, etc. I was trying to do an elaborate floral pattern on my eggs, to give it some "wow" cred, but the stencil kept slipping. I became frustrated, and then distraught.

More distraught than I am now, with one of my hosts not producing anything. More distraught than I had any right to be. But no matter how carefully I worked at it, I couldn't get the stencil to stay in the right place.

I guess that you could say I was having an eggs 'n stencil crisis.
62) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 101103)
Posted 6 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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We had an interruption in power here last night (it happens), and when I got up this AM I found one of my hosts was completely dead. So, I restarted it and when I got into BOINC, I am finding that every task that I download aborts for "Computational Error" within about 20 seconds.

While this was going on, I tried to add SiDock as another project, with the intent to diversify as some have suggested (currently running Rosetta only). That produced an error that said that I could not join because I am required to agree to the terms of service. Which I did. I tried it a couple more times to confirm it.

Now I'm wondering if the power failure messed up something in BOINC, or if the problems are coincidental and not related to me.

Any suggestions?

{EDIT} I fixed the problems with joining SiDock. But all of the tasks from that project error out just like the ones for Rosetta. So I've suspended both projects until I can figure out a solution.
63) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 101083)
Posted 5 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Just to follow up, my primary rosetta cruncher has 6 tasks using 1.6gb of ram total. Looks like they got it figured out.


Can I ask a dumb question? Why is it that we have to divine what "they" are doing by observing the vagaries of tasks and RAM? Isn't there a board or site somewhere that explains what "they" are doing when changes occur in the project that affect the donors in significant ways?
64) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 101027)
Posted 3 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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you have a big appendage.

I'm...um, "flattered" that you think about that, but just for the record, I don't roll that way. Kindly limit yourself to policing my vernacular, dawg.
65) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 101000)
Posted 2 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Looks like the profile of a dead body lying in a shallow grave. How metaphorical.
66) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100997)
Posted 1 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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I will complete the units currently being processed but suspect that this project is not for me.


Don't take it personally. There's a three roll limit on toilet paper here because of some hoarders (not you). That's the rule. But best practice for the community at large is for folks to take less, if they can. If everybody does it, then there is more likely to be a ready supply available, including for you. It's something worth repeating, just so everyone is aware of it.
67) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100996)
Posted 1 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Are you one of those pricks who said "made you look" in the school playground as a kid? If so, how's the broken nose?


Woah, dude, where did that come from? Over the use of an "at" symbol?

If you get spun up that hard, that fast over what I write, maybe the better solution is to stop reading my posts, okay?
68) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100995)
Posted 1 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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I have seen several periods of downtime where work units have not been deployed for days at a time.

For an individual host's circumstances it's fine if you have a specific reason

This kind of reminds me of the hoarding that takes place here (even prior to the pandemic). There's a supply problem, which leads to hoarding, which makes it worse.

Kind of remarkable that we have too much unused CPU time to go around.
69) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100994)
Posted 1 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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should I set up any firewall rules?
Assuming it’s the same as on Windows:

The only thing that requires Internet access is the client, and it only makes HTTP(S) connections to the project servers. So you need to open tcp/80 and/or tcp/443 outbound (plus udp/53 or whatever else your DNS needs if that’s not handled by a separate resolver); everything else can be blocked.


Those ports seem to be open by default so I guess that I'm okay. Thanks for your reply.
70) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100954)
Posted 1 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Don't you just hate folk who put @ in a sentence?

Like you just did? :^P
71) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100953)
Posted 1 Apr 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Then you have lived a charmed life, if my experience is anything to go by (usually not...)


It didn't start out so hot, but it's getting better year by year. I'm grateful for the life that I have now.

On another topic, running Linux Mint here, should I set up any firewall rules? Or does BOINC operate thru the open ports?
72) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100913)
Posted 31 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Moreover, Rosetta should be a project which is run in the background. So, I should not equip my computer to meet Rosetta requirements, but Rosetta should try to use my resources.


I hear you, but all programs specify the minimum hardware requirements. My complaint would be that those requirements for @Rosetta seem to change without notice.

On the other hand, it seems like they don't have enough work to consistently utilize the hardware available to them. If that's the case, then it makes no sense to spend time fine-tuning the program so that even more capacity is available.
73) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100911)
Posted 31 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Not just memory: I’m now seeing
Rosetta needs 5472.67MB more disk space
(on an admittedly very small partition set aside for the BOINC data directory, but it’s been fine for the last year) – so it looks like the new batch is unusually resource-hungry…


Rosetta needs 7437.13MB more disk space.

Isn't that adorable? Say hello to two less hosts after they finish their current tasks, @Rosetta. I don't know if I have the time that's required to provide the space that is needed.

"Makes use of unused COP cycles" Sounds so easy, doesn't it? I know that I have been here but a short time, but @Rosetta is higher maintenance than any turbulent girlfriend that I've ever had.
74) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100859)
Posted 28 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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The new trRosetta should be even better.


I will check it out.

Suggest checking out Foldit.

https://fold.it/portal/


I love that game too much. I was actually leading one of the beginner puzzles as of Friday.

Unfortunately, it won't run on my box at home and I have no idea why.

We are under lockdown here in Manila until the end of holy week, so maybe no more FoldIt for me until then.
75) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100850)
Posted 27 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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My though was about you being able to use all of your cpu cores at another project instead of just one or two here at Rosetta.


Rosetta is a nice little hobby for me right now. I'm learning new things and the subject matter is congruent with my son's PhD project, so there's that. At some point I suppose those benefits will plateau and, when it does, I will look for new roses to smell. Is there one project that stands out for you as a recommendation?
76) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100845)
Posted 26 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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There are lots of other Boinc Projects that have much smaller ram requirements and would love your help too!!


I'm sure that all of them would love my help, cuzz. But if there's one thing that you learn as an American living in the Philippines, it's that there is always a lot more love of help than there is of you.
77) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100838)
Posted 26 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Make sure Leave non-GPU.. is Not selected.
Works for me.


Heh. I had it on Not Selected, then Selected per the advice of someone else in another thread, now it is back to Not Selected again. Let's see if that helps.
78) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100837)
Posted 26 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Several of your machines have only 8 GB memory. This isn't enough for 12 cores.

You need at least 1 GB/core to run Rosetta


I had noticed that the 12 core host was lagging, so I have ordered another 8gb stick for that one. That's the only 12 core machine. There's one other machine with 4 cores and 4gb (nominally) of memory, but that one can't be expanded; just have to live with it as it is.
79) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100827)
Posted 25 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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Is this happening when BOINC is trying to switch between projects to satisfy resource share settings?


I see it, on multiple machines, and I'm only running Rosetta.

It's peculiar. There's clearly enough free main memory to run a project, not to mention the swap. Diddling with the values in preferences doesn't seem to wake it up, either. It just goes away on its own.

I've written it off to a cost of doing business, but if there is a fix for it I wouldn't mind at all.
80) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 100804)
Posted 23 Mar 2021 by mrhastyrib
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given the unfathomably large search space


Okay, scratch the infinite monkey approach then.

Where does the excess potential energy go?


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