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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
Are we running out of work?
(Message 97510)
Posted 23 Jun 2020 by yoerik Post: yes, no idea when it could come back. If you want to continue running good science, you can go to https://worldcommunitygrid.org/. OpenPandemics has millions of WU available to fight COVID. You can always return here when the queue of tasks stabilize. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
no new tasks?
(Message 97508)
Posted 23 Jun 2020 by yoerik Post: Neither one of you guys would do well in the days before Boinc, Seti the ONLY Project, went down for over a week because someone stole the copper phone lines, yes dialup days, and NO ONE from Seti said one word until they came back online after the phone company replaced the line. YES the website was still running but NO communications what so ever from them to us crunchers, they DID tell a few users individually and that's how we all found out. Even later during it's run when Seti reissued the exact same workunits over and over and over again Seti never said a thing until they got caught and after denying it for weeks finally admitted it was because 'they ran out of workunits and thought people would leave the project if they didn't have workunits to crunch'. NO the reissued workunits were NOT reprocessed by the Project, the results were thrown away and the workunits were sent out again and again. They did eventually apologize but it wasseen asweakand waaaay too late. and that's fair - but we're not in the age of dialup anymore. It's more than reasonable to expect some level of communication from the project that we are spending time, money and resources to support. I'm not whining, or demanding for more tasks. I specifically said I'm glad that they're not wasting resources by giving us bad WUs, multiple times across the forums. But - there hasn't been a news posting since early May - it's nearly July. That seems to be par for the course for Rosetta, at a glimpse of past news threads - but it is more than reasonable to ask for a few sentences a month to keep us up to date on the project's work - put out an announcement to the clients so that non-forum users (which there are clearly plenty) can be aware of the shortage without panicking when they suddenly stop getting tasks. Not everyone here is a computer expert - I'm certainly not. But I also know that stringing a few sentences together isn't difficult. I was ridiculed here before during the last potential shortage in the beginning of May. It is certainly not my intention to whine or complain - and I'm sorry if I'm coming off that way, but what OP asks for - and what other users asked for in the news post I linked prior - is not much to ask. It takes a minute of one person's time to keep us informed - and the project is either unaware or unwilling of how important communication is, especially when it requires such little effort. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
no new tasks?
(Message 97501)
Posted 22 Jun 2020 by yoerik Post: I hate to complain - but several volunteers have raised issue with the lack of communication from the project to us, for a while now. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533&postid=96797 It's good that only work that helps the project(s) is ran, but it's not good to run out of WUs completely without notice. I hate continuing to compare them to WCG - their communication isn't much better, but shortages on subprojects are noted well in advance. |
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News :
Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus
(Message 97358)
Posted 13 Jun 2020 by yoerik Post: I've noticed that all of my computers have barely received any new Covid tasks for crunching during the past few days :-( not all COVID-19 tasks are labeled COVID-19 - so unless it is clearly labelled for us lay people to understand - we have no way of 100% knowing which ones are COVID related, and which ones aren't. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with given CA certificates
(Message 97196)
Posted 3 Jun 2020 by yoerik Post: Good choice. I only found 7.16.3 and while it has some extra settings to use, it seems to fall out of memory a lot and even when it's running it seems to suspend itself when it's not the foreground task. feel free to post in the WCG forums to help figure out what's going on. Some projects on the grid vary in WU size. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with given CA certificates
(Message 97029)
Posted 31 May 2020 by yoerik Post: I analyzed the ca-bundle.crt file and found out that AddTrust External Root certificate expired today. instead of using command prompt (which I found wasn't working for me, probably did something wrong but *shrug* I instead used Properties - Security - and gave users full control over that file. Used notepad to edit and could save no issue. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
If You Don't Know Where to Put it, Post it here.
(Message 96920)
Posted 30 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Greetings, again - no disrespect meant. I'd just rather leave politics out of science - something that should not need to be political. |
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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
New volunteer with a Mac question...
(Message 96854)
Posted 30 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Hi all, what BOINC version are you using? The latest is 7.16.5 |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
If You Don't Know Where to Put it, Post it here.
(Message 96853)
Posted 30 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Greetings, That's your right, but I try to avoid clearly biased sources on all sides of the debate. I hope we can move on from this and focus on what matters here - Rosetta. Have a great day. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
If You Don't Know Where to Put it, Post it here.
(Message 96852)
Posted 30 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Greetings, Thanks for a more independent source. |
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Message boards :
News :
Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus
(Message 96797)
Posted 26 May 2020 by yoerik Post: it's hard to fathom. You and I are both familiar with WCG's efforts to keep us up to date - it takes minimal effort to keep us informed. The lack of this communication as a newer volunteer is concerning. I've taken steps to reduce my contribution to Rosetta - I will crunch WCG full time if this communication issue continues into next month. I just cannot justify a higher electricity bill for a project that doesn't have the will to issue the simplest of updates. It's almost insulting. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
BitDefender Ransomeware False Positives
(Message 96782)
Posted 25 May 2020 by yoerik Post: one of my computers also had an issue with bitdefender. I also had to exempt it. Rip. |
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Message boards :
News :
Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus
(Message 96758)
Posted 24 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Yep. I check this thread every 2-3 days just to see if anything new is posted. Bit of a let-down that there was a lot of communication early on, and now radio silence for a while. It's not entitled to ask to be kept informed - it's disappointing that we have to do more work to find the latest news, than it would take for them to share that news here. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Added WCG to the mix; no longer receiving R@H tasks
(Message 96644)
Posted 20 May 2020 by yoerik Post: I've been crunching Rosetta@Home successfully for months. Try limiting the number of WCG tasks using device profiles. https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewDevices.do It'll prevent WCG from overfilling your queue in computation preferences. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Large numbers of tasks aborted by project killing CPU performance
(Message 96641)
Posted 20 May 2020 by yoerik Post: uhh reduce the queue in your computation settings? |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Rosetta now abandonware?
(Message 96549)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Project -> News & Articles about Rosetta oh no. I'm not saying the project hasn't communicated since 2017. I'm saying the place Mod.Sense pointed to isn't communication with us for a start - another issue being that particular page has not been updated since 2017. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
If You Don't Know Where to Put it, Post it here.
(Message 96528)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Greetings, I appreciate that you're concerned, - all due respect - but that is not a trustworthy news source to transmit such information. It has a clear right wing, US Republican lean. It's literally called "liberty news". TLDR: Not trying to call you out, but that's not a good source to use, to share the underlying headline with us. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Rosetta now abandonware?
(Message 96527)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: The OP also said "No way to know what you've contributed to". Peer reviewed papers are a major grouping of things they've contributed to. All due respect - I'm not trying to start an argument - that addresses one of the several grievances that the OP was discussing. In addition, this does not change the fact that the link you provided includes none of Rosetta's publications - in fact, only news reports discussing Rosetta... which is over 2 years out of date, and the IPD's page is far more accurate https://www.ipd.uw.edu/in-the-media/ (that the page links to this URL does not fix that Rosetta's page states it's the "latest". Unless a user realizes that the IPD image is a link, they would think Rosetta hasn't made the news in over 2 years. The work published by the Baker Lab is here: https://www.bakerlab.org/index.php/publications/ Yes, this indicates that the project is doing work. It doesn't count as a communication to us, which is the overall issue of the thread. |
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Message boards :
Cafe Rosetta :
COVID 19 tasks released on WCG
(Message 96524)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: looking forward to seeing what results from both projects. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
If You Don't Know Where to Put it, Post it here.
(Message 96523)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Greetings, I would not trust that news source as far as I could throw it. |
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