Posts by Scooter Scum

1) Message boards : Number crunching : I think 6 Million credits is my limit.... (Message 91269) Posted 14 Oct 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: My system has 48 GBs of RAM. I run around 15.2 GBs. I only run 24 at a time. Looking at the Processes in the task manager, it varies by thread between 213 MBs - 710 MBs , Thanks. Have you figured out how many Watts your system consumes when running Rosetta? I started a thread about the Threadripper 1950x. I believe I'm pulling about 350 Watts / 24/7. So 0.35 KWh * 24 hours * 30 days = 252 KWh / month.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : I think 6 Million credits is my limit.... (Message 91266) Posted 14 Oct 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: How much memory does it take to run 32 Rosetta threads? Neal My system has 48 GBs of RAM. I run around 15.2 GBs. I only run 24 at a time. Looking at the Processes in the task manager, it varies by thread between 213 MBs - 710 MBs ,
3) Message boards : Number crunching : I think 6 Million credits is my limit.... (Message 91237) Posted 9 Oct 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: It's been fun, but not sure productive!! What does it mean "productive"? We are volunteers, so no profit for us. The advancement of science is our gain... I think it is a feedback issue. I understand we are volunteers and no profit, but if somebody came back and said "Last month you helped us find a solution to bla bla bla. Your computer did that. " Instead I'm wondering if my contribution is really doing anything. If in 6 Million credits, it did not find something.... why am I contributing? There are a Million computers chipping away this problem. It is just not clear I'm really accomplishing anything[/i]
4) Message boards : Number crunching : I think 6 Million credits is my limit.... (Message 91231) Posted 8 Oct 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: Well my beast of a system has been running around the clock for close to a year. I must admit it was exciting to be part of the bionic project. But I must admit the project has taken a toll on my Electric Bill. With my solar panels, I have accumulated 3000 KWh in credits. Since my 16 CORE AMD 1950x has been running, I think I've burned through 2,200 KWhs. At 11 cents a Kwh that's $242 contributed towards the project. There is no feedback if my 5.5 Million credits have done anything significant towards solving protein problems. So I'm left wondering if the impact of my electrical consumption is worse for the planet vs saving lives with my computing. My computer has been ranked as high as top 40 systems producing results. I've had a few unexpected hiccups with Microsoft deciding to update my system and restart it in the middle of the night. But I think I am going to give up on the project after 6 Million credits. Give my system a bit of a break and also bank a few more KWhs on my net meter. It's been fun, but not sure productive!!
5) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90471) Posted 4 Mar 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: Well I crossed over the 1 Million credit threshold. I gotta say the credit system is a bit baffling. My "total" graph from the Boinc Manager looks pretty much like a straight line. But my average is just crazy dips and spikes. I got as high as 30th on the list of top hosts. I'm falling like a rock with the new crop of Intel Processor that came out. Oh well... Still a great system. Will probably throttle back my background utilization to probably 90% to make surfing the web a bit smoother. I saw Microcenter had the AMD Threadripper 1950x on sale again for around $500. An absolute steal compared to the Intel processor. I may have to throttle the thing way back this summer. I hate to air condition my house during most of the day. I think the temp in my office will be a bit too warm for this thing to run flat out.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90348) Posted 13 Feb 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: I found my old Kill a WATT gizmo. I brought down my system and plugged it in to the Kill a WATT. At idle my system seems to pull 120 watts. When Rosetta finally gets cranked up, my system is pulling about 320 watts. I'm a bit surprised it is pulling that much. So per month I'm probably in the (0.322430 = ) 230 KWhs of energy usage for my monster system/ 2,802 KWh per year. My RAC is starting to flatten out. I briefly peaked out over 20K RAC. I'm currently number 34 on the top producing hosts at 19,588 RAC. I see a few other AMD 1950x systems up in the 21+K RAC range. When I went to reset my system, I noticed my processor decided to throttle back to 2100 MHz or so. After my reboot, now all my cores are running at 3,593 MHz. Guess I should keep an eye on it. That may be limiting my production. We will see. Currently my typical run time for 32 parallel simulations is around 8 hours per simulation. That means on average I have a simulation finishing about every 15 minutes. Not bad productivity! I'm a little embarrassed how addictive watching my score grow. I was pondering picking up a second system based on a Ryzen 7 just to up my production. Am I a sick person or what....
7) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90294) Posted 2 Feb 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: Yes, if you bring up task manager and click on the "resource Monitor" you can see the "graphs" for each hyperthread. It would appear that my system average is starting to top out. As of this morning, I'm at 17,622 RAC and number 43 on top hosts web page. Many of the systems around it are damn expensive systems. For example the system above me is a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2695 v2 @ 2.40GHz 48 processor system. The chip alone costs around $3,500 and I think this system has two of them on the motherboard for 48 Hyperthreads. My whole system cost $2,200 or so. With this system running 24/7 pretty much doing nothing but Rosetta, I think I'm consuming around 200 watts. That makes energy consumption for the month to be around ( 0.2 x 24 x 30) = 144KWh. At $0.11 / KWh makes for around $15.84 per month, $192 per year. Fortunately I have 28 Solar Panels that is over producing electricity at my house. You gotta love AMD for such a bold move in the processor market. To provide some serious horsepower for the average consumer. I have been very reluctant to upgrade my home system. It was 8 years old and starting to show it's age, but I was not very excited to get another 4 or 6 core Intel processor. When I saw the AMD Threadripper series, I started lusting for one. Considering I picked up last years 1950x processor for $475 and it is doing the work of two $3,500 Intel chips, that is a huge leap forward for science computing. My hats off to them!!!!
8) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90252) Posted 23 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: I might throttle back to maybe 75% or 24 hyper-threads. See what happens. I went out and bought 2x16 GBs of DDR4 memory. So the system seems to recognize all 48 GBs of memory. I do not see much of a change in BIONC usage of memory. With 32 Active simulations, my memory foot print is around 13 GBs. You only had 1 stick before? You now have Dual Channel at least. When I built the system, I started with 2x8 GB DDR4 RAM then I added 2x16 GB RAM. I still have 4 memory slots empty for future expansion... but I seriously doubt I will ever go beyond 48 GBs.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90246) Posted 22 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: I might throttle back to maybe 75% or 24 hyper-threads. See what happens. I went out and bought 2x16 GBs of DDR4 memory. So the system seems to recognize all 48 GBs of memory. I do not see much of a change in BIONC usage of memory. With 32 Active simulations, my memory foot print is around 13 GBs.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90237) Posted 21 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: I fiddled with that setting. It seems to really cut my real cpu utilization. I set in the manager under options, computing preference, use at most 50% of the CPUs. I thought that would have run close to 100% of the 16 cores, but it seems to cut the real cpu utilization in half. Makes my brain hurt. I maybe making a run to MIcrocenter soon. Will ponder more memory, but it seems to do reasonably well with 16 GBs of RAM.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90235) Posted 21 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: The threadripper has 16 real cores, but shows 32 CPUs to the operating system through hyperthreading.... I would love to only run 16 Rosetta threads at a time. It would be more efficient, and leave me more memory to surf the web. I'm not sure where I can modify the number of threads. I could turn off hyperthreading in the BIOS, but would prefer to do it through Rosetta. I lust to pick up another 32 GBs for my beast. Being unemployed makes that a bit of a stretch. I just saw 32 GBs at Newegg for $239.... soooo tempting. It looks like I'm averaging about 20,833 credits per day. I had one day where the system reset in the middle of the night and needed to be kick started again. I'm very pleased with it's performance.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90220) Posted 17 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: So two days of running. Watching my temp slowly increase. I'm now running around 78C. They say anything under 90C is normal. Wondering if my thermal paste is breaking down. It would be sad to throttle back workloads due to overheating. My case has a bunch of fans. It is really pumping out some heat. Air going into the system is around 70F and coming out around 95F. Fans are fairly quiet, maybe too quiet. Oh the joys of a home built system. Only person to complain to is in the mirror.... and he is a moron! My BOINC Manager says I hit around 17,000 host total. I'm hoping my temp starts to stabilize.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Which processor (Message 90218) Posted 16 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: There is lots of info on this website to help answer that question. I found this link that shows the highest performing systems. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/top_hosts.php The AMD 16 core 2950x is ranked #6 w/RAC of 29,826. The Intel i9 comes in at #18 w/RAC of 19,699. I built a system around the previous generation AMD - 1950x. It is just starting to produce numbers. I'm hopeful they will be a significant number. See thread : https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=12929 The Intel systems are a bit easier to find built. The BIG AMD systems are tough to find and better off building the system yourself. The ThreadRipper motherboards are more expensive than Intel, but have large memory options and very fast PCIe slots. I found the AMD 1950x processor on a Black Friday sale for $475. I was anxious to build a server class desktop and could not resist trying an AMD. I think they are very competitive and seem to be well suited for this work. Good luck with your decision. A lot of great options finally.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90213) Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: It is my plan to leave it running 24/7. I've been watching my system resources.... CPU seems to be fairly pegged at 99%. I occasionally see a few of the the 32 threads stalled for memory. My memory usage is running around 10-11 GBs out of 16 GBs. I'm concerned about the processor overheating. I brought up Core Temp app, and I seem to be running between 35-76C typically around 55-60C while running all cores at 100%. I went off the deep end and bought a monster Nocurta U14S cooler: https://noctua.at/en/nh-u14s-tr4-sp3/specification I had planned to try and overclock the processor, but having a hard enough of a time using all the potential of the processor at stock speeds. I had the system built from Black Friday parts and a local retail place had last years CPU discounted to $475. The chip is the about the size of a business card and really requires a cooler built for it's form factor. I'm sure somebody is going to knock the power usage, but I'm 100+% solar so the sun is helping cure cancer....
15) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 1950x Threadripper performance (Message 90209) Posted 15 Jan 2019 by Scooter Scum Post: Forgive me if I break 100 rules. My first post. I just started running Boinc and clipping along at an average of around 1,400. I'm not sure if that is good or bad. Currently running a Windows 10, AMD 3.5 GHz Threadripper 1950x 16 core processor with 16 GBs of 3200 DDR4 memory. Always looking for a good benchmark for this processor. There seem to be a lot of questions around this processor. Will try and answer questions on results.