Posts by Keck_Komputers

61) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Last one to post here wins! (Message 35447)
Posted 24 Jan 2007 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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bump
62) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : help me with boinc (Message 35240)
Posted 21 Jan 2007 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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The client will switch between projects about every 60 minutes (default). Running more than one per CPU at a time is conterproductive since so much time is lost in the state changes.
63) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ (Message 34201)
Posted 6 Jan 2007 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Surely it has nothing to do with Rosetta@home science either ;)
If they are having problems with their servers, they should move the forum and news to a different more reliable host.



Einstien went down again about 8 hours ago and I'm considering moving all my machines to Rosetta if I could figure out how to do it. When BOINC came into existance, I began by running 2 projects, Rosetta and Einstein. About a years ago I decided just to run Einstein@home and detached Rosetta. When Einstein began having rather lengthy downtimes recently, I decided to put Rosetta back on 3 or 4 machines in case I ran out of work from Einstein. I was able to re-attach to Rosetta on 2 machines running XP with no problem and D/L the necessary files, but on win98 machines I received the message that I had attached to Rosetta and showed 1 file as being downloaded although no data was moving.

I seem to recall that there were a couple of files that needed to be removed before Rosetta would actually begin to install. I did a search for the word rosetta on drive C and discovered there were 25-30 files in other than the BOINC folder that contain "rosetta". I started just to delete all of them but thought there might be some file sharing and thought better of it.

Does anyone have any idea how I can get the files needed to run rosetta downloaded without having to delete everthing and completely start from scratch? It says I'm attached and even shows 1 file being downloaded, but as a said above, no data is moving. Thanks in advance.

F. Prefect
ford42@inter-linc.net



I would think that a project reset would take care of any files that needed deleting. I don't remember needing to manually delete anything to get rosetta running, and I certainly didn't have to do that on a host that I recently attached.
64) Questions and Answers : Windows : New installation, stuck up/downloading (Message 33827)
Posted 31 Dec 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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If it is one of your windows machines check your firewall settings. The standard windows firewall will often allow internet access once and then block it from then on.
65) Message boards : Number crunching : Inter-project question (Message 33824)
Posted 31 Dec 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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I'm not sure if 0 works yet (or properly), but it should cause the project to run only if there are no other work available from the othe other projects.
Given it is seti and they generally use the most up to date server software ( look at your account you should notice a new addition added in the past day at the bottom http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8546489 )

Do not use 0 (zero) for a resouce share in anything less than 5.6.x it will cause a divide by zero error and kill the core client. Dr. A has stated that a 0 resource share should work as described above but I am not sure if that has made it into code even in the latest test client. The 5.6.x clients have an error trap for this value, they do not implement it. 0.001 will generate almost the same behavior and works with any client version.
66) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Personal Super Computing (Message 33140)
Posted 22 Dec 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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BOINC will use all available CPUs on a system if the settings allow it. So you should have no problem running BOINC on this system.
67) Questions and Answers : Web site : how to detach from project after a reformat (Message 32727)
Posted 16 Dec 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Hi Jameson,

you might try a merge. Go to your account, click "view" beside the item "computers on this account" and select one of the machines you want to merge into one. Scroll down to the bottom and try "merge this computer".

If BOINC sees a machine that can be merged with the one you selected, it will be listed. You can select it and then click "Merge hosts". The newer of both machines will be the one to "survive", the other one is deleted.

If BOINC does not list another machine, you just see "select all" and "unselect all" links and the button, but no clickable PC. Call again or go directly to the Moderators COntact Point Thread and ask for assistance. It usually is a good point to get help on how to do things or at least a reason why a certain action may not be possible.

Regards,

Christoph

If you do not have any hosts to merge you will be able to delete the old host eventually. It will take some time though, all workunits associated with that host must be finished and removed from the server.
68) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD 64x2 dual core computer not showing two CPU's (Message 32491)
Posted 12 Dec 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Just got my new dual core box today, but I seem to have the same thing happen to me as Clyde. But mine is an intel cpu. Any ideas? My processors are both listed in the device manager.

From looking at your computers the ones that should have 2 CPUs do have 2 listed in BOINC. Make sure your settings allow at least 2 CPUs to be used. Also BOINC will only use one CPU by default, so until the new install downloads your preferences it will only use one.
69) Questions and Answers : Windows : Another screensaver problem (Message 31625)
Posted 24 Nov 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Have you set a blank time in the windows screensaver preferences? There was a bug where if this was unset even if it was not used it would cause problems. I thought it had been fixed but I could be wrong.
70) Message boards : Number crunching : Feature request (Message 30891)
Posted 10 Nov 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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I've seen a server code come back as 512 hence why I changed my guess from 5.5.0 to 5.0.5.

I also though the server code was never considered in testing if it had been checked in. The latest is always the release version.
(i.e. stable is only for client side parts.)


I don't know why you had one return 512, the only thing I can think of is that it was one of the first versions to actually report to the host and it returned all 3 sections of the version (5.1.2).

You are correct there is no stable version of the server code, only the head. It still gets tagged similarly to the lastest version of the client though, so a server pulled and compiled today would be version 5.7.2.
71) Message boards : Number crunching : Feature request (Message 30845)
Posted 9 Nov 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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It tells you on wn RPC call to the server ( I think ) and it 505 (5.0.5 ?), I know they are upto 512 (5.1.2) or something now..

It does tell you in the messages when you do an RPC but the explanation of the version is wrong. 505 is 5.5.x, and the highest current version is 507 or 5.7.x.

It probably does not make sense for this project to resend lost results. There is a database access penalty for it. This must be balanced against the DB penalty of having excess tasks on the server. Here I would expect the load of resending tasks to far outweigh the load from extra tasks since tasks are issued one at a time.
72) Questions and Answers : Windows : duration correction factor (Message 30742)
Posted 7 Nov 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Resetting the project may fix this. It will trash all tasks currently on your computer though.

If that doesn't work you can edit the client_state.xml file. Exit BOINC completely. Look for the duration tags in the proper project and change to 1.0. Be careful doing this, an error can trash the entire install.
73) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Regretfully withdrawing from the project due to memory issues (Message 30390)
Posted 31 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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I am sorry the memory requirements of this project are unacceptable. Please consider trying some of the other projects. SETI and Einstein have lower memory requirements, most of the protein projects have about the same memory requirements as this one though. Here is a WIKI page with more details.
74) Message boards : Number crunching : OT: A closer look at Folding@home on the GPU (Message 29684)
Posted 20 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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The BOINC client is basically already set up for using the GPU, however actually doing it is up to the projects. The client collects data on the host. The project uses this to see if the right card is there. The project has to do is set up a task with the non_cpu_intensive flag set. That task would then use the GPU directly.

As nice as it would be I still don't think BOINC will be able to support GPUs transparently to the projects for the forseeable future. The differences in instruction sets and precision seem very difficult to overcome.
75) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Task not ending...stuck 'Running'. (Message 29564)
Posted 18 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Thanks for your response John. I figured that there may be a little post processing but one of the tasks took approx 8hrs to run but had been stuck at 100% for 46 hrs...

I have managed to suspend the tasks which then brings up the following 'ready to run' task. So far this has been working but I doubt it is the correct course of action.

Thanks again

Ok 46 hours is way too much time to wait. Unsuspend the task then restart the client/computer. If it is still stuck then abort the task.
76) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer identifier file (Message 29563)
Posted 18 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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The client/server should recognise that you have copied things over and straighten it out automatically. It may take a couple of connections of both hosts though. Actually it is more common for BOINC to think a new host record is needed when it really isn't than for it not to create one when it is needed.

Thanks for the reply. There won't be any server-side problems will there? After each one contacted the server, it switched from listing one comptuer spec to the other in 'My Computers'. One of them hasn't reported any results yet so when it does, I guess that will be when they are split?

Most likely that is correct, it may take additional connections though. It should not cause any problems serverside.
77) Message boards : Number crunching : No Rosetta Wu's being downloaded (Message 29562)
Posted 18 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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The rule of thumb is that to keep work coming steadily from N projects where the shortest deadline of any project is D is to set a connect interval of less than

D / (N+2)

<snip>

River~~

This formula works well for a small number of projects (about 4 or less) but the denonimator does not grow fast enough, D / (N*2) would work better as the number of projects grows. The one I like to use is 40% of the shortest deadline divided by the number of projects, that allows a fudge factor if the estimated run time is off.
78) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer identifier file (Message 29491)
Posted 17 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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The client/server should recognise that you have copied things over and straighten it out automatically. It may take a couple of connections of both hosts though. Actually it is more common for BOINC to think a new host record is needed when it really isn't than for it not to create one when it is needed.
79) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Task not ending...stuck 'Running'. (Message 29340)
Posted 14 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Some projects have a bit of post processing that must run after the manager says 100%. I am not sure if that is the case here but waiting a while to see can't hurt. Restarting the task, client, and/or computer may get it running again if it is truly stalled and not just doing some post processing.
80) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can I install BOINC without supervisor rights? (Message 29227)
Posted 12 Oct 2006 by Profile Keck_Komputers
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Nope. You must have written permission from the owner of the computer to run BOINC on it.


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