Posts by eric

1) Message boards : Number crunching : I give up! (Message 57847)
Posted 13 Dec 2008 by eric
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I really hate to say this but I am giving up on Rosetta. After contributing more than 800,000 credits over the past 2 years Rosetta has given me too many headaches. I have stopped crunching Rosetta every now and then because of problems with certain WUs or versions of the client but have kept coming back after the problems supposedly have been fixed. I am getting tired of having to do this. The latest problem with WUs taking more than 24 hours on some of my computers when I have a 3 hour run time in my prefrences is straw that broke the camels back. I have had to abort WUs because they wont meet deadlines because of the super long run times. I am now going to finish all my Rosetta WUs and remove the project from all my computers. World Community Grid has been rock solid for me. And it has some great causes (like Rosetta) to crunch for. I hope that one day the Rosetta team will be able to make their project solid so people will not run into these problems.

Eric
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with version 5.96 (Message 53816)
Posted 19 Jun 2008 by eric
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Freeze calculation of WU 1wrp__BOINC_SYMM_FOLD_AND_DOCK_RELAX-1wrp_-native__3004_6 (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=137744826).
Today, I restarted my computer. After that, process of this WU was started - status "Running", but really progress of calculation is stoping (CPU Time don't changing and System Monitor for any process "rosseta_beta_5.96..." show 0%).
Message Log has only "resuming task 1wrp_..." without any errors.
I try to restart processing of this WU: suspend - resume, but progress stop. (Other WU was run).

Linux Ubuntu 7.10 (32bit), BOINC 5.10.45. Rosetta Beta 5.96 (for this WU).

Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 (2.2 GHz). RAM: 4Gb (really used 3 Gb). HDD: 33 Gb free.
MotherBoard: Intel DG33BU (internal video).

SETI@Home/Rosseta@Home - 50/50.



I'm getting the same problems as you are with WUs running but the CPU is at 0%. This is happening on a Phenom9850 and a Intel Core Duo. I am now going to move most of my crunching to WCG until this gets fixed. I have also gotten a lot of validation errors and such.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 52829)
Posted 2 May 2008 by eric
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[quote]Well I finally got a Phenom. I picked up a 9850 BE and it has been running for a bit over 24 hour now. I don't have enough results to base a opinion yet.


Great! Let us know how it is doing once the RAC has stabilized, and if you try any overclocking.


I am interested in its results as well as I am considering that CPU or any of its lower frequency brothers to replace my old 2800+


The Phenom 9850 has been running for about a week now and it is doing pretty well. I think that it is going to be very comparable to my q6600. I have been letting them run Rosie nonstop to see how high of a RAC they can get. I really like the AMD overdrive utility. It is really cool.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 52670)
Posted 23 Apr 2008 by eric
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Well I finally got a Phenom. I picked up a 9850 BE and it has been running for a bit over 24 hour now. I don't have enough results to base a opinion yet.


Great! Let us know how it is doing once the RAC has stabilized, and if you try any overclocking.


I am interested in its results as well as I am considering that CPU or any of its lower frequency brothers to replace my old 2800+


Well the RAC is on hold :( for now. Turns out that the 9850 is very picky when it comes to to motherboards that support it. The first board that I tried was an NVidia chipset and that ran for a day before it blew itself up. The second board was an AMD 780 chipset board that wouldn't run for more than a few minutes before locking up. I ordered a MSI K9A 790 chipset board that is listed on AMDs website as one of 2 approved boards for this chip and I should get it today or tomorrow. From what I read is the 9850 along with the 6000+ are not supported by most MBs because of the 125W TDP. So be carefull when you are thinking about upgrading to this chip. Both of the other MBs that I tried said that they supported Phenom CPUs but when you go to their web site the 9850 is not listed as supported. BTW the bios did recognize the 9850 just fine and I even tried to update the bios on both boards. I will post back after I get the new MB and have it up and running again.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 52626)
Posted 20 Apr 2008 by eric
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Well I finally got a Phenom. I picked up a 9850 BE and it has been running for a bit over 24 hour now. I don't have enough results to base a opinion yet. One thing that I am disappointed in is I have a NVidia chipset board and the AMD overdrive only works with a 7xx chipset. Oh well. I guess I will have to get a new MB :). I can put an old 4600 in the NVidia board and have even more crunchers working.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Ubuntu "boinc" user (Message 50854)
Posted 21 Jan 2008 by eric
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I have 2 ubuntu machines and that is not the case for me. I installed Boinc from Ubuntu as well.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Rosetta version 5.93 (Message 50853)
Posted 21 Jan 2008 by eric
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Once again I am having major problems with a new version of Rosetta. On one of my XP boxes the computer is locking up. That computer only has 512 MB of RAM. On one of my Linux boxes I am getting a ton of compute errors.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=702448

I am stopping Rosetta on that box and if this keeps up I am going to have to move my resources to different projects. That is a shame because I really feel that Rosetta is a great project to support. But on the other hand I can't keep wasting all this electricity on failed work units.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 50479)
Posted 9 Jan 2008 by eric
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Congrats !


Well the system ran great for about a week and then the power supply died. I chaulk this up to a coincidence. Ordered a new PS with 3 day shipping so hopefully soon I can get that system back to crunching. At least now I have my new Core 2 Duo laptop to help fill the gap :).
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 50201)
Posted 30 Dec 2007 by eric
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Yeah, The Inquirer also refers to Tom's in There's no upgrade path to Phenom:

"Adding insult to injury, it seems one of the greatest promises on the Phenom processor won’t be kept (ie: drop-in, upgrade compatibility). It seems AMD’s in bigger trouble than most expected (or wished)."

Check Tom's Hardware......Phenom only worked on two of nine mobos tested.



Well after doing some research I decided to hold off on the Phenom for now. I decided to try out a Athlon X2 5000+ Black edition. All I can say is WOW! This thing easily overclocks to 3Ghz on stock voltage and the temps are still sitting at 40 degrees C. Plus it is running super stable. Not a bad drop in for a 4600 that it replaced.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 50094)
Posted 27 Dec 2007 by eric
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Sorry to ask the obvious, but can you just put a Phenom into an AM2 socketed mobo? i.e., a pre-built Compaq? Aren't there issues of chipsets and bioses to go from X2 to X4, or is it literally as simple as swapping out the cpu's ?

I am not getting rid of my Q6600. I am looking to upgrade one of my X2 systems.


Check Tom's Hardware......Phenom only worked on two of nine mobos tested.


Thanks for the heads up. I was going to buy a new board anyway. The system I am thinking about replacing has a cheap ECS board. So now I have to decide if I want to go with the AMD 790 chipset or the NVIDIA chipsets. Either way I think I am going to wait until I can get my hands on the Black edition or for the new stepping that is supposed to be released sometime after the first of the year.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 50072)
Posted 26 Dec 2007 by eric
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Sorry to ask the obvious, but can you just put a Phenom into an AM2 socketed mobo? i.e., a pre-built Compaq? Aren't there issues of chipsets and bioses to go from X2 to X4, or is it literally as simple as swapping out the cpu's ?

I am not getting rid of my Q6600. I am looking to upgrade one of my X2 systems.


It depends on the board. Some companies are not offering bios updates for the Phenom some are. If it is from Compaq I doubt they offer the support.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 50067)
Posted 26 Dec 2007 by eric
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I have been thinking about upgrading one of my systems to a Phenom 9600. I have not seen any results on the 9600 yet to see how it does as a cruncher. I have seen some results from 9500's on SETI and some seem to be doing well. Anyone know how a stock 9600 compares to a q6600? I have a q6600 now and I realize that the 9600 is not as fast as the Q in most of the benchmarks and does suffer from the errata problem. I am still intriqued by the CPU and would like to give it a shot.



I can not answer this question but would encourage you to stay with the Q6600. If you are looking for a project, over-clock the Q6600. They are great over-clockers and I have mine running at 3.4GHz. It is almost like adding another core.


I am not getting rid of my Q6600. I am looking to upgrade one of my X2 systems. I have thought about getting a second Q6600 but it would cost more than what I am willing to spend at this point. I have overclocked the Q6600 a bit. The board it is running in (ASUS P5b-VM) really doesn't give me a whole lot of OC'ing options. It has been running stable at 2.7. I wish I can get it up to 3.4.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone know how the Phenom 9600 is as a cruncher? (Message 50050)
Posted 26 Dec 2007 by eric
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I have been thinking about upgrading one of my systems to a Phenom 9600. I have not seen any results on the 9600 yet to see how it does as a cruncher. I have seen some results from 9500's on SETI and some seem to be doing well. Anyone know how a stock 9600 compares to a q6600? I have a q6600 now and I realize that the 9600 is not as fast as the Q in most of the benchmarks and does suffer from the errata problem. I am still intriqued by the CPU and would like to give it a shot.

14) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone else getting computation errors? (Message 50001)
Posted 24 Dec 2007 by eric
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The link at this WU:
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=116854959
Well, There isn't the version.

Ahh, I see..... We won't be able to see the version until the wu is finished and returned. Only YOU can see what version Boinc will use to run that WU. If you're using a gui boinc manager, then it should show up under "application" in the "tasks" tab. If it says 5.90 then I'd just abort it and any others listed as 5.90, then they'll issue you 5.91 wus.

Thanks, I see that they are 5.89.


if they give you problems i think it is the best to abort them, and wait for some 5.91's


I am going to give it another shot. I just got some 5.91 WUs and I'll let them run to see if I get any more errors.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone else getting computation errors? (Message 49790)
Posted 19 Dec 2007 by eric
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I am running 32bit.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone else getting computation errors? (Message 49773)
Posted 18 Dec 2007 by eric
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I also have been getting a lot of compute errors on my Ubuntu box. Here is a link to the results from it.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=687195

I have it set not to get more work from Rosetta until the problem gets fixed. Hopefully, it will be soon.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Rosetta version 5.85 (or 5.86 for linux) (Message 49589)
Posted 11 Dec 2007 by eric
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Two of my computers also crashed running the new version. One is a Intel P4 D with only 512 MB and the other is a X2 4600 with 1 GB RAM. I am also going to stop crunching Rosetta until this problem gets fixed.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual Xeon Prestonia 2.66 (Message 42356)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by eric
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The benchmarks are very low:

Measured floating point speed 1139.23 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 1059.3 million ops/sec

Is it running at 2.66GHz (i.e. any speedstep or something similar running?)


Nothing like speedstep running (unless there is something in the IMB BIOS that I have overlooked) and this is a straight Win 2K3 R2 with nothing else besides BOINC installed. I will take a look at the BIOS again just to make sure. Are you thinking of a dual core Xeon? These Xeons are single core with HT. I ran CPUid and they show the correct clock. Thanks for the input.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual Xeon Prestonia 2.66 (Message 42346)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by eric
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Is that 1GB Ram in total or per core?


That is 1GB of RAM. Are you refering to the cache memory? If so. Each CPU has 512 KB L2 cache.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Dual Xeon Prestonia 2.66 (Message 42344)
Posted 20 Jun 2007 by eric
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Sorry about the bad link. The above post is correct.


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