Posts by Dougga

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Someone is turning off my Virtualbox jobs (Message 105785) Posted 1 Apr 2022 by Dougga Post: If the developers were responsible adults they'd send a memo saying you've been banned.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Someone is turning off my Virtualbox jobs (Message 105633) Posted 21 Mar 2022 by Dougga Post: I haven't gotten any work in ages and just decided to go check the toggle on my primary computer re: allowing VirtualBox jobs. It was changed to not accept jobs. Damned irritating. This project is off the rails.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Please disregard (Message 105251) Posted 26 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: Never mind... user error.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : One second of "time remaining" is about a day (Message 105214) Posted 25 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: The CPU Time and CPU Time Since Checkpoint are both "---". Not zero, just "---". Meaningless of course but such are programmers. I'll kill them.. ------ Aborting all tasks clears the deck of all work and bakerlab isn't offering more wu's. I guess I'm done here.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : One second of "time remaining" is about a day (Message 105205) Posted 24 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: I've been contributing to Boinc for well over a decade, and have never seen anything like this. The time remaining was about 3 seconds 3 days ago and it's still grinding away with zero seconds remaining. What can fix this?
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to figure out the 16core/24thread Intel Core i9-12900 processor (Message 104918) Posted 18 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: deleted
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to figure out the 16core/24thread Intel Core i9-12900 processor (Message 104916) Posted 18 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: Any thoughts on how to 'un-screw this up'? I'm headed out of town asap so won't be coming back here for a couple weeks. Thanks for your insight and help. I currently have 32GB which doesn't seem to be an issue unless Virtual Box is involved. I'll be upgrading to 64 at some point.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to figure out the 16core/24thread Intel Core i9-12900 processor (Message 104914) Posted 18 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: The missing core is guiding a single GPU process/wu with another BOINC app. There is something quite strange with these cores. I'm not sure what to make of them. Most of them show idle or near idle, only the 'fast' ones are showing maximum utilization. I have preferences to use 100% of all cores. There appears to be some internal CPU-mechanism that is slowing things way down. These aren't VirtualBox wu, so that isn't relevant. I haven't studies the nuts and bolts of these new Intel CPU's. Someone said on here that there are different types of cores within the new processors. This is news to me but I'll look for verification/more information. From the Intel website: CPU Specifications Total Cores 16 # of Performance-cores: 8 - Max Turbo Frequency 5.10 GHz # of Efficient-cores: 8 - Max Turbo Frequency 3.90 GHz Total Threads 24 ?? Max Turbo Frequency 5.20 GHz ?? (Seems to contradict the above) I belive my calculations clears things up. Given I'm showing 7 high performance Rosetta cores, these are 7 of the 8 high performance cores. The 9th is doing other work. The 24 threads is the curious bit. This suggests that the 'efficient cores' are multi threaded 2 threads each which vastly under-perform. What's not described is how the hyper-threading works. It seems there are primary threads and secondary threads just for the 'efficient cores' with the latter vastly under-performing the primary which gives us three sets of 8 threads and three different performance metrics which is very odd indeed. It's not clear at all what logic is used to determine which type of core/thread combination is designated for what workloads.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to figure out the 16core/24thread Intel Core i9-12900 processor (Message 104898) Posted 18 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: Intel Core i9-11900K has 25 cores. With one core working with the GPU, it leaves 24 for Rosetta. Calculating relative speed to complete a wu. This messaging app mangles formatting. Five columns: 1 - % we complete 2 - Time used 3 - Time used (decimal) 4 - Time per wu (decmial) 5 - Speed Category of Core 7 Fast Cores (perhaps the 8th working with the GPU) 61% 5:44:40 5.74 9.37 Fast 59% 5:34:29 5.57 9.41 Fast 59% 5:34:50 5.58 9.44 Fast 59% 5:34:55 5.58 9.43 Fast 59% 5:34:36 5.58 9.45 Fast 58% 5:29:29 5.49 9.49 Fast 58% 5:31:53 5.53 9.49 Fast 8 cores Medium Speed Cores 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.80 Medium 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.47 Medium 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.81 Medium 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.57 Medium 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.58 Medium 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.61 Medium 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.60 Medium 8% 1:30:20 1.51 18.61 Medium 8 cores are slow as molasses. These must be the 'parked' ones 1% 0:28:31 0.48 33.33 Slow 1% 0:28:31 0.48 33.64 Slow 1% 0:20:19 0.34 38.05 Slow 2% 0:28:57 0.48 31.54 Slow 1% 0:28:42 0.48 33.43 Slow 0% 0:04:13 0.07 14.34 Slow 2% 0:29:10 0.49 31.94 Slow 1% 0:28:59 0.48 33.50 Slow
10) Message boards : Number crunching : There's a max WU of 8 with Virtualbox (Message 104897) Posted 18 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: Well it appears at least for now the VirtualBox work units are gone and I have 24 wu running. That's a first. After further investigation the computer is using different cores differently. Parked:(8) 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 Idle or mild use:(8) 0.2,4,6,8,10,12,14 Maxed Out:(8) 16-23 Someone mentioned Windows 11 might make better use of the cores and the new Intel CPUs have multiple types of cores. More research...
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Deleted (Message 104896) Posted 18 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: Deleted
12) Message boards : Number crunching : "Error: This computer has finished its daily quota of 9 tasks" (Message 104895) Posted 18 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: OK, that's funny. Is this the administrators fiddling or are they serious?
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Duplicate: never mind (Message 104892) Posted 17 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: A new set of work units is hitting titled... "movingstub_gzm1_minimize_3CL_AVLstub_abcd_xyz_extract_B_SAVE_ALL_OUT_qrstuvw_ef_g" Where the alphabetic sequences are numbers. All 'movingstub' wu's are failing with 'computational errors' within 30s Any intel on what's going on? I have a newly build machine and am watching things fairly closely. Thanks
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to figure out the 16core/24thread Intel Core i9-12900 processor (Message 104891) Posted 17 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: And you are running Windows 10, which doesn't support the new Thread Director that helps decide which cores do what & how hard it should go. And even then as Annand Tech pointed out, cores that are running background Tasks can end up running at reduced clock rates as they are perceived as less important than those that are running in the foreground. Interesting, so there's an actual technical reason to upgrade to Windows 11? I was working at MS when Vista launched. It took continual harassment from my manager to get me to "upgrade". There were scores of updates and fixes before I took the leap. I do have things set on Max Performance for what it's worth. This is your recommendation?
15) Message boards : Number crunching : There's a max WU of 8 with Virtualbox (Message 104850) Posted 16 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: It’s a lack of RAM. There are no complaints in the event logs regarding ram. Looking at Resource Monitor is claims... Memory: Hardware reserved: 259 MB In Use: 18756 MB Modified: 148 MB Standby: 13608 MB <----- this is oddly high Free: 1 MB It appears to me the VM's are reserving an enormous amount of memory they are not using which is the problem. An additional 32GB ram is back-ordered so it will be added shortly. Thanks.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : There's a max WU of 8 with Virtualbox (Message 104834) Posted 16 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: I have the new intel Core i9-12900k which has 25 threads and 16 cores. Boinc/Virtualbox will only run 8 work units for some reason. The Boinc UI doesn't seem to have a max, but I'm still looking. Can someone help me out?
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to figure out the 16core/24thread Intel Core i9-12900 processor (Message 104820) Posted 15 Feb 2022 by Dougga Post: I'm confused by the strange and vast difference between the different cores on the new i9-12900 Running equivalent work packages each on a single core using the Boinc distributed app, I'm seeing the following amount of work done in about 4.75 hrs. Core Load (from app "Open Hardware Monitor) 1 44.924% 100.0% 2 44.227% 100.0% 3 43.979% 100.0% 4 43.318% 100.0% 5 42.678% 100.0% 6 42.570% 100.0% 7 38.194% 100.0% 8 19.265% 100.0% 9 19.189% 0-0.8% 10 19.107% 0-0.8% 11 19.077% 0-0.8% 12 18.800% 0-0.8% 13 18.706% 0-0.8% 14 18.689% 0-0.8% 15 18.688% 0-0.8% 16 18.659% 0-0.8% Can anyone help figure out what on earth is going on here?
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Credits vanishing (Message 101214) Posted 10 Apr 2021 by Dougga Post: I'm running Rosetta for the first time in a few years and am finding "interesting" behavior. - In the past few days, my daily credits are dropping precipitously. - The boinc client on one machine shows consistent daily totals that are greater than the reported sum of all machines Can anyone confirm these observations or offer an explanation?
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta work units won't start or run (Message 101166) Posted 8 Apr 2021 by Dougga Post: I've not received any messages in the logs concerning lack of memory. I'm using less than 1G of 8G Just to be sure, I've set Max memory utilization to 95% I'll restart my work with Einstein and not worry about Rosetta any more.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 101165) Posted 8 Apr 2021 by Dougga Post: My linux client appears to be stuck with issues with messaging from the server. I removed Rosetta and added it back. I'm not getting any work untis. It says ... Requesting new tasks from CPU Scheduler requests complete: got 0 tasks No tasks sent Project requested delay of 31s After the 31 seconds, no further requests are made Manual requests reruns the loop I've uninstalled the program, rebooted etc...

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