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Message 106736 - Posted: 7 Aug 2022, 22:04:14 UTC - in response to Message 106732.  

Oh well. I do have VB installed. If Rosetta is ruling out Windows 10 as an operating system to run on it would seem to be giving up on a lot of potential clients to run data on. I've been doing Rosetta for over 17 years and I've never run into anything like this so it seems rather improbable. So it's going to cut me off because I "failed" 1 WU after the almost 2,000,000 WUs I've processed over the years? I'm sure you realize what a prick and an asshole you sound like and are doing it on purpose. At any rate they aren't sending any more WUs my way so I am pulling the plug and disconnecting. I hope the WUs I processed did some good.



Look you can't just give up based on one failure and the system kicking you out.
That's just the way the damn thing is programmed until it gets to know what errors your system kicks out and also how many errors that particular protein is getting over all the tasks associated with it.
I had run of those kick you out after 1 or 2 despite it not being my fault or the task locks up and I have to abort it.
Now their system has learned my patterns it does not bother with kicking me out.

I looked at your account and there are no tasks to look at either good or bad.
So why not just reset your account like the guys have talked about and try running a few more.
If they error out then copy and paste the error message text from stderr file in the directory that the bad task was running in.

Python tasks here are finicky as is the server. You just have to keep beating it back into submission and you will finally win.
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Message 106737 - Posted: 7 Aug 2022, 22:07:11 UTC - in response to Message 106735.  

I run gtx 1650 and it completes python tasks in approximately 19 hours.

I run GPU and it takes 2 days at 14-16 hours per day to complete their python models. I run at 1050 and a 1080.
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Message 106738 - Posted: 7 Aug 2022, 22:42:31 UTC - in response to Message 106732.  
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Oh well. I do have VB installed. If Rosetta is ruling out Windows 10 as an operating system to run on it would seem to be giving up on a lot of potential clients to run data on. I've been doing Rosetta for over 17 years and I've never run into anything like this so it seems rather improbable. So it's going to cut me off because I "failed" 1 WU after the almost 2,000,000 WUs I've processed over the years? I'm sure you realize what a prick and an asshole you sound like and are doing it on purpose. At any rate they aren't sending any more WUs my way so I am pulling the plug and disconnecting. I hope the WUs I processed did some good.
I am both a prick and an arsehole especially when driving (not an asshole, that is a type of donkey, go back to school), but in this case I was helping you out. The only people being pricks are the ones running the server, and that isn't me.
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Message 106743 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 0:26:35 UTC

Excessive Disk Space Usage.

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Rosetta@home: Notice from server
rosetta python projects needs 745.50MB more disk space. You currently have 18327.98 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.
8/9/2022 4:50:58 AM
That was with 90gb of SSD space allocated to BOINC.
No matter how much disk space I give to BOINC, Rosetta keeps asking for more.
This indicates a flaw in Rosetta's use of resources. So it is Banished from my rigs.
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Message 106744 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 0:37:42 UTC - in response to Message 106743.  

Excessive Disk Space Usage.

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Rosetta@home: Notice from server
rosetta python projects needs 745.50MB more disk space. You currently have 18327.98 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.
8/9/2022 4:50:58 AM
That was with 90gb of SSD space allocated to BOINC.
No matter how much disk space I give to BOINC, Rosetta keeps asking for more.
This indicates a flaw in Rosetta's use of resources. So it is Banished from my rigs.

90GB , is that all read this fix
it was using 357GB of my ssd last time I ran python
and then I added a second so to make a raid 0 set to speed up those vdi file copy`s
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Message 106745 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 0:39:26 UTC - in response to Message 106744.  
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What if you enable ntfs compression on slots directory?
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Message 106746 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 0:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 106743.  
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Excessive Disk Space Usage.

I'm Getting tired of this message.
Rosetta@home: Notice from server
rosetta python projects needs 745.50MB more disk space. You currently have 18327.98 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.
8/9/2022 4:50:58 AM
That was with 90gb of SSD space allocated to BOINC.
No matter how much disk space I give to BOINC, Rosetta keeps asking for more.
This indicates a flaw in Rosetta's use of resources. So it is Banished from my rigs.
Are you from the 90s? We use larger files now. This computer has 1000GB NVME and 4000GB hard disk.

On that note I was tidying out some drawers in the garage and found some 64kbit RAM chips, 16 pin DIL, along with an Intel CPU from 1978 and an Amstrad from 1983. I threw all those out and kept the 555 timers, flipflops, and 7-segment LED drivers, they're still handy.

Christ, this guy is still trying to sell them! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Amstrad-40078-28-pin-DIP-vintage-integrated-circuit-/391903210582
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Message 106751 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 14:01:49 UTC - in response to Message 106746.  
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I feel your pain. The space issue is starving other projects.

I'm currently running five Rosetta tasks. These will probably my last ones as I'm not planning to fetch any more after these are done. Maybe we should move to Folding@home - they do something similar.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

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Message 106752 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 14:03:08 UTC - in response to Message 106751.  

enable ntfs compression on slots directory
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Message 106753 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 14:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 106752.  

enable ntfs compression on slots directory

If you don't mind rather slow access to that directory.
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Message 106755 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 15:30:02 UTC

If you want to get rid of some nasty settings regarding the python app, try to use an app_info.xml.
See:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=14930&postid=106754
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Message 106756 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 17:15:45 UTC - in response to Message 106753.  

enable ntfs compression on slots directory

If you don't mind rather slow access to that directory.
It's not even noticeable. Modern CPUs are easily capable of doing on the fly compression.
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Message 106759 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 21:14:05 UTC - in response to Message 106738.  

I am both a prick and an arsehole

Can confirm...
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Message 106760 - Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 22:21:46 UTC - in response to Message 106759.  

I am both a prick and an arsehole

Can confirm...
Editing posts to make your childish point is well.... childish.

So, what's wrong with being a prick? If someone's in my way on the road, I'll make life difficult for them.
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Message 106787 - Posted: 16 Aug 2022, 20:25:12 UTC
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Linux Fedora 36 distribution Boinc problems

I installed the latest Boinc release (7.20.2-1.fc36) for this Fedora and started getting errors.
I DOWNGRADED back to the previous Boinc release (7.16.11-6.fc35) and it seems to work fine again so far.

For the Climate Prediction project, I build a small test program that verified all the dynamic libraries and support programs were properly installed.

TOO bad the Rosetta developers cannot do something simple like that for Python environments they require.
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Message 106789 - Posted: 16 Aug 2022, 20:51:09 UTC

Works fine in Windows, why is Linux so useless with libraries?
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Message 106790 - Posted: 16 Aug 2022, 21:22:55 UTC - in response to Message 106787.  

I installed the latest Boinc release (7.20.2-1.fc36) for this Fedora and started getting errors.
I DOWNGRADED back to the previous Boinc release (7.16.11-6.fc35) and it seems to work fine again so far.

It is because of the security changes in BOINC 7.18.1 and later.
Some projects have adapted to it, but not the pythons.
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=166
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Message 106791 - Posted: 16 Aug 2022, 23:55:24 UTC - in response to Message 106790.  

I installed the latest Boinc release (7.20.2-1.fc36) for this Fedora and started getting errors.
I DOWNGRADED back to the previous Boinc release (7.16.11-6.fc35) and it seems to work fine again so far.

It is because of the security changes in BOINC 7.18.1 and later.
Some projects have adapted to it, but not the pythons.
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=166


Thanks. You have given better advice than admin have ever offered. I'm impressed!!!
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Message 106794 - Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 11:14:48 UTC - in response to Message 106791.  
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I think you can use replacement systemd service file from https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4971

sudo wget https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/download/boinc-client.service -O /etc/systemd/system/boinc-client.service

I think you can remove ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c "/bin/chmod +x /sbin/create-boinc-cgroup && /sbin/create-boinc-cgroup" line
if you aren't going to run lhcathome theory.
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Message 106809 - Posted: 25 Aug 2022, 22:20:23 UTC

After all these years I am giving up on RAH.
I just removed the project from my list.
To much bullshit and they can't even fix their own mistakes like what you just talked about.
I had no idea why I got booted, but since their code doesn't want to work with the updated boinc, well then I'm gone. Ive got booted a few other times.

Enough of this bull, i've got plenty of real projects to work on.
I think FAH does better work than RAH.
RAH is all about inhouse now and dumping trash out here.
Reminds me of TAC.

Good luck with all the nonsense guys, I've had enough.
I'm in plug and play mode, not fight with a stupid bot mode.
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