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Message 105919 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 5:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 80621.  

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Message 105921 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 7:17:11 UTC - in response to Message 105918.  

I don't experience this. I have two computers that do 99% of them ok. I have 5 computers that never do them. Perhaps there's an instruction in CPUs required for a small number, but all my machines are either new enough to have it or old enough to break every one of them.

Only your 3800XT and your i5 have AVX so the other machines will all suffer from the Intel MKL crash.
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Message 105922 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 7:17:14 UTC - in response to Message 105918.  
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Message 105923 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 7:23:15 UTC - in response to Message 105921.  
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I don't experience this. I have two computers that do 99% of them ok. I have 5 computers that never do them. Perhaps there's an instruction in CPUs required for a small number, but all my machines are either new enough to have it or old enough to break every one of them.

Only your 3800XT and your i5 have AVX so the other machines will all suffer from the Intel MKL crash.
Agreed. But why do my i5 and 3900XT virtually never have a faulty task?
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Message 105924 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 7:34:07 UTC - in response to Message 105923.  

Agreed. But why do my i5 and 3900XT virtually never have a faulty task?

Yeah, that I don't know! My 3700X seems to have more issues than my other machines. Maybe because I use it more. Or maybe these tasks are more sensitive to something like memory errors.
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Message 105925 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 7:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 105924.  

Agreed. But why do my i5 and 3900XT virtually never have a faulty task?

Yeah, that I don't know! My 3700X seems to have more issues than my other machines. Maybe because I use it more. Or maybe these tasks are more sensitive to something like memory errors.
I find AMD doesn't like Virtualbox, it makes it slow down like crazy. But it doesn't affect the program, just the interface.

Have you checked your memory is perfect? Bad memory is a very nasty thing to have. Use memtest. I always use this on any new or used memory I buy before I put it into use.
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Message 105926 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 8:49:10 UTC - in response to Message 105925.  
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Yeah I've run memtest on all of my machines - so easy from the start menu in Windows these days. No issues detected though.
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Message 105947 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 18:42:50 UTC

I had to abort a task that was dead with .12% being used on the cpu
turns out that was strike 3
had a canceled by server (since when does that count against you?)
a computation error (their fault) and my abort.

2022-04-15 13:22:17 (15696): Detected: BOINC client v7.16.20
2022-04-15 13:22:19 (15696): Detected: VirtualBox VboxManage Interface (Version: 6.1.32)
2022-04-15 13:22:20 (15696): WARNING: Communication with VM Hypervisor failed. (Possibly Out of Memory).
2022-04-15 13:22:20 (15696): WARNING: Communication with VM Hypervisor failed.
2022-04-15 13:22:20 (15696): ERROR: VBoxManage list hostinfo failed

huh? WTF is this?
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Message 105948 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 18:49:48 UTC - in response to Message 105892.  
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robertmiles wrote:
Virtualbox has the old vbox, which handles 32-bit programs
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Where's any evidence that the multicore Cosmology tasks use Virtualbox?

It's mentioned at the apps overview page of any project:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/apps.php
https://www.cosmologyathome.org/apps.php


no "()" in the "Version" col indicates a native/legacy app without special requirements like SSE, AVX ...
(vbox64) in the "Version" col indicates an app that requires VirtualBox 64-bit.
(vbox64_mt) in the "Version" col indicates an app that requires VirtualBox 64-bit and is able to run multicore VMs.
64-bit vbox apps don't run on a computer that has 32-bit vbox installed.

Thank you.

It looks like Cosmology@Home ran out of space to write this in the other place where I expected it to appear.

I'm now back after a week with no internet access.

My computer has both the 64-bit and the 32-bit versions of VirtualBox installed. It runs 64-bit vbox apps.
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Message 105949 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 18:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 105948.  

My computer has both the 64-bit and the 32-bit versions of VirtualBox installed. It runs 64-bit vbox apps.
This is news to me, I just have 64 bit installed, I think, no idea how to find out. Does that mean I can't run the 32 bit ones? I would have thought the 64 would include the 32?
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Message 105950 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 18:58:37 UTC - in response to Message 105949.  
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My computer has both the 64-bit and the 32-bit versions of VirtualBox installed. It runs 64-bit vbox apps.
This is news to me, I just have 64 bit installed, I think, no idea how to find out. Does that mean I can't run the 32 bit ones? I would have thought the 64 would include the 32?

My 32-bit version may be left over from the earlier BOINC work that used it, such as RNA World. It's a separate program.

If you can reach the command line while no Virtualbox task is running, Try entering vbox to test if the 32-bit version can be found. If the program starts, try entering exit to see if this will shut it down. For a similar test for the 64-bit version, enter vbox64 instead.
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Message 105951 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 19:10:02 UTC - in response to Message 105950.  

When i run vbox i get "vbox" is not recognized as an internal or external command operable program or batch file
The same happens to "vbox64"
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Message 105952 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 19:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 105951.  
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When i run vbox i get "vbox" is not recognized as an internal or external command operable program or batch file
The same happens to "vbox64"

I guessed wrong on how to start the emulators, then.

Or maybe neither is available for your Android computer.
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Message 105953 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 19:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 105951.  

I have https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.44/VirtualBox-5.2.44-139111-Win.exe installed
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Message 105955 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 20:10:45 UTC - in response to Message 105950.  
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My computer has both the 64-bit and the 32-bit versions of VirtualBox installed. It runs 64-bit vbox apps.
This is news to me, I just have 64 bit installed, I think, no idea how to find out. Does that mean I can't run the 32 bit ones? I would have thought the 64 would include the 32?

My 32-bit version may be left over from the earlier BOINC work that used it, such as RNA World. It's a separate program.

If you can reach the command line while no Virtualbox task is running, Try entering vbox to test if the 32-bit version can be found. If the program starts, try entering exit to see if this will shut it down. For a similar test for the 64-bit version, enter vbox64 instead.
Not sure what you mean. Where do I enter this? I'm running Windows 11.
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Message 105956 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 20:11:57 UTC - in response to Message 105953.  
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I have https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.44/VirtualBox-5.2.44-139111-Win.exe installed
Same. I assume that's 64 bit. The website doesn't say.
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Message 105957 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 20:19:22 UTC - in response to Message 105955.  

My computer has both the 64-bit and the 32-bit versions of VirtualBox installed. It runs 64-bit vbox apps.
This is news to me, I just have 64 bit installed, I think, no idea how to find out. Does that mean I can't run the 32 bit ones? I would have thought the 64 would include the 32?

My 32-bit version may be left over from the earlier BOINC work that used it, such as RNA World. It's a separate program.

If you can reach the command line while no Virtualbox task is running, Try entering vbox to test if the 32-bit version can be found. If the program starts, try entering exit to see if this will shut it down. For a similar test for the 64-bit version, enter vbox64 instead.
Not sure what you mean. Where do I enter this? I'm running Windows 11.

Sorry, I have no information on whether Windows 11 even makes a way to do it available.
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Message 105958 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 21:14:08 UTC - in response to Message 105955.  

Not sure what you mean. Where do I enter this? I'm running Windows 11.


On the command line - type window-R then enter cmd in the text box that comes up.
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Message 105963 - Posted: 16 Apr 2022, 8:39:56 UTC - in response to Message 105958.  
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Not sure what you mean. Where do I enter this? I'm running Windows 11.


On the command line - type window-R then enter cmd in the text box that comes up.
Yes I know how to get a command line. But I assumed this was the wrong place as:

C:Userspeter>vbox
'vbox' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:Userspeter>vbox64
'vbox64' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

(Note the backslashes have been removed because this forum is a piece of shit)
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