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Message 72093 - Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 13:43:34 UTC
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I still have 17 tasks for 257 total hours of WUs that won't upload!

I tried the hosts workaround but it did not solve the problem.
I watched inside client_state.xml but apparently none of my Rosetta WUs points to srv6.

I tried a lot of 'update project' and 'retry' until some seconds ago but nothing worked.


I want to add that 'update project' fails too and that my stats on this website says that last time I contacted server was 3 Jan 2012 20:36:32 UTC.

The WUs have a report deadline expired on Jan 9.
Should I abort them?
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Message 72094 - Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 16:44:00 UTC

Have you retried the uploads in the transfer tab?
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Message 72095 - Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 17:08:33 UTC

I tried again now in the evening and they are uploading now. Thanks!
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Message 72102 - Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 22:26:45 UTC

johnT, if you "update project" manually, there is a timer that ensures a given host does not attempt to hit the server too frequently (i.e. a denial of service attack would look like that). So, if you do a second update project within about 5 minutes of your first, you will see a message to the effect that your last request was too recent in your BOINC Manager messages. So that was probably what was occurring there.
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Message 72103 - Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 23:02:05 UTC - in response to Message 72041.  
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Quote: "It would have been nice if they had posted advanced warning of the move, since I work in remote areas and leave my systems crunching while at work. I would have set Seti to run while the move was going on before I left for the rig."

They did give advance notice on January 2nd. It was on the main page under "news"

"Jan 02, 2012
The hardware hosting the Rosetta@Home project is being moved from one datacenter to another on the UW campus. We are using this disruption to update the sagging, aging gear that runs the project. All of this will result in a few days of down time. We will work to keep the outage to a minimum, but you migh want to grab enough work for a 4-5 day period. We appreciate your patience, interest and continued contributions to our research. -KEL"


That is a general notice, no specifics of a certain server unfindable.
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Message 72114 - Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 21:35:58 UTC - in response to Message 72081.  

Does anyone know if this has been sorted or ever will be sorted at bakerlab's end?


As transient indicates, this particular issue should be fixed now, and the srv6.bakerlab.org domain name should point to a live server.
Please let us know if you're still seeing problems, keeping in mind that it might take a little while for the DNS changes to propagate to all the ends of the internet.

Thanks for bearing with us during these recent server move hiccups.



None of my WU's are uploading now. With or without the "hosts" mod.
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Message 72115 - Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 22:09:28 UTC
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I've got 4 stuck in queue. Thankfully I've got my clients set to cache 4 days in the event it goes down again. I'm out. Y'all have a good weekend.
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Message 72116 - Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 22:39:44 UTC - in response to Message 72114.  

None of my WU's are uploading now. With or without the "hosts" mod.


What server is it trying to reach? Is it srv6.bakerlab.org? (See Holmis's post earlier in the thread: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/forum_thread.php?id=5880#71982)

Can you see any other error messages under the Messages tab of the Boinc Manager?
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Message 72118 - Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 3:10:33 UTC - in response to Message 72116.  

None of my WU's are uploading now. With or without the "hosts" mod.


What server is it trying to reach? Is it srv6.bakerlab.org? (See Holmis's post earlier in the thread: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/forum_thread.php?id=5880#71982)

Can you see any other error messages under the Messages tab of the Boinc Manager?


It says that the project servers might be down. Everything is uploading now.
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Message 72125 - Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 15:56:51 UTC

Yes, all project was down (or more likely just offline) for few hours. I saw lof of "project servers might be down" in log and ~10 files in upload queue.
But now all works fine - all WUs successfully uploaded and reported.
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Message 72131 - Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 21:26:24 UTC

I've read elsewhere that it's possible to set up DNS so that one machine name translates to a list of IP addresses, not just one.

Can the developers do this? Can the BOINC upload process work correctly from such a list, sending each retry to a different IP address from the list until it has tried them all and starts the list over?
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Message 72183 - Posted: 20 Jan 2012, 2:48:54 UTC
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I'm no expert, so that's well beyond me. The base function of DNS is, when you say go to yahoo.com, it goes and retrieves the 1.2.3.4 number that is really yahoo.com. DNS does not do data transfers or make connections. It's just the phone book.

Oh, you want Dave? His phone number is 555.5555.

Then it's up to you to dial the phone and see if I'm home or not. The phone book is just laying there on the table. So certainly somebody could code something in their application to retry based on something, but not via raw DNS.

The other way works perfectly fine, tho. Fill your hosts file with all the entries you can think of, assigning one address to many different host names.

Dave.com
robertmiles.com
rosetta.org
microsoft.com
whitehouse.gov

could all point to one physical IP address, in your hosts file.

In fact, corrupting hosts is a good virus/malware attack - if I can edit your hosts, I can make update.microsoft.com point at my server - the system consults the local host file FIRST (before checking online DNS), and does what it says. That's part of why the rosetta thing worked. The hosts file is considered authoritative, by the machine it's on.

But in the end, DNS just looks up the phone number, not much more. It is a huge system of many phone books all talking to each other and updating and caching and uncaching constantly, and the global economy relies on it, but still, phone books.

fyi

Dave

ps that's one of the silly things about that SOPA legislation, (US concept here) trying to have govt control of DNS to prevent piracy or bad manners, or something. If I can get all the IP addresses I need, I can do all the surfing I want just by putting raw IPs in the URL. In theory, you can live without DNS at all. So how much control could they really expect, in the face of determined hackers, etc. Want to try it? Surf to

http://128.95.160.140/rosetta/forum_forum.php?id=2

to see this forum, with no help from DNS (at least, no help in getting to the top level pages - I know there's lots of host names in the page, but you could replace them all with numbers). Watch out, you might be a hacker pirate!

/soapbox off /

WOW. don't know where I got all this energy....!
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