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Message 57945 - Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 23:19:30 UTC
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Not sure if this is related or not...

Crux of my problem is this, I have no graphic display, the screen saver is blank and when I hit the 'show graphics' button in the advanced view, it opens a window (title - minirosetta version 1.47 [workunit: cs_noe_ .... etc]) that is blank, and then becomes unresponsive within about 10 seconds and requires the process to be killed.

Bonic Manager Version : 6.4.5
Wigets Ver : 2.8.7
Rosetta application : Rosetta Mini 1.47
Microsoft Windows Vista Business x86 Editon, (06.00.6000.00)
Dont know if you need this but..
PC : GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 9], 1gb RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT

New account/install, 44 mins old according to its first work unit.. Vista is a fresh build, <24hrs old...

The workunits are running/progressing along, I would just like to see what im crunching :)
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Message 57946 - Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 23:28:48 UTC - in response to Message 57944.  
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I'm having the same (graphics) problem, but in XP 32-bit, in one of the hosts after the installation of mini 1.47


Same problem here. Also with XP 32bit. I guess that makes it three (edit now 4 ) of us.

The WU seems to be unaffected. The WU has only been processing for abut 15 minutes, but it is check-pointing regularly.
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Message 57947 - Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 23:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 57946.  

Same here. No graphics fur WU 196031795.

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Message 57948 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 1:00:40 UTC

How odd... It just started working, I did nothing/made no changes.
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Message 57951 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 3:10:52 UTC
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Hi.

Yes odd indeed it seems to be this type of task has the problem, for me anyhow

the one that was affected has finished.

This one // cs_noe_fullw_nolin_homo_bench_cs_noe_abrelax_cs_hr1958_olange_5606_12051_0


EDIT // Now i have a t071_ task running and the graphics are fine, go figure.

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Message 57952 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 3:30:51 UTC

If it's any help, mine was -

cs_noe_fullw_nolin_homo_bench_cs_noe_abrelax_cs_ccr19_olange_5604_12614

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Message 57953 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 4:32:33 UTC

I have a WinXP 32-bit machine with Norton Antivirus 2009 installed.
minirosetta v1.47 is known to have fixed many bugs but there is still a major fault in this version. The bug is that it is detected by my antivirus as a high
security risk threat and is automatically removed by the antivirus. So you download the new version and after some time you will find it evaporated by your antivirus. I dont know whether it really contains some virus or not but the fact is that there is something in thousand lines of code of minirosetta that the antivirus does not like. I hope that this issue will also be resolved soon and it is my message to the developers of minirosetta that fix this issue as early as possible because most of the new users will not run it again on their machines after being detected by the antivirus as a threat.

So it is bad to hear that the new version still contains a major bug. :-(
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Message 57958 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 8:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 57953.  

I have a WinXP 32-bit machine with Norton Antivirus 2009 installed.
minirosetta v1.47 is known to have fixed many bugs but there is still a major fault in this version. The bug is that it is detected by my antivirus as a high
security risk threat and is automatically removed by the antivirus. So you download the new version and after some time you will find it evaporated by your antivirus. I dont know whether it really contains some virus or not but the fact is that there is something in thousand lines of code of minirosetta that the antivirus does not like. I hope that this issue will also be resolved soon and it is my message to the developers of minirosetta that fix this issue as early as possible because most of the new users will not run it again on their machines after being detected by the antivirus as a threat.

So it is bad to hear that the new version still contains a major bug. :-(



why not set your antivirus to manual and then when it grabs minirosetta you can tell it to ignore that kind of file. we all know minirosetta is a safe application. it just NAV and other antivirus software that thinks it has a infection. I bet if you ran housecall from trendmicro you would find no problems. I run AVG free and none of the tasks have ever triggered that program and my system is virus free.
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Message 57965 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 13:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 57928.  

Minirosetta apparently "looks like" malware, whether it actually is or not. This applies to all versions I've run, thru v1.47.

I run BOINC on two WinVista (God help me) boxes: one a 32 bit Sony with ZoneAlarm Pro|ESET NOD32 for security; the other a 64 bit Sony with Kaspersky Internet Security 2009.

On the first machine, NOD32 Antivirus thinks the Minirosetta .exe either contains a viral signature or looks bad heuristically (their UI doesn't say which). I have to add an exclusion to get the thing out of quarantine, every time a new version is released. Interestingly, ZoneAlarm Pro's application module hasn't had a problem with it.

On the 64 bit machine, Kaspersky's Application Control module gives Minirosetta's executable a Threat Rating of "Potentially Dangerous" with a heuristic Danger Index score of 82. I have to manually override Kaspersky and move Minirosetta out of the "Untrusted Application" zone, to allow it to execute. (By comparison, Rosetta Beta 5.98 has a DI of 12, as does SETI's recently released Astropulse 5.0. SETI's regular Enhanced v6.03 has a DI of zero.)

I realize that heuristic analysis is as much art as science, but both ESET and Kaspersky are rated at or near the top of their field. Of 10 project hosts I subscribe to, with over 25 project executables, Minirosetta is the ONLY one that has ever sent up a red flag to my security suite(s). Since most folks leave their security suite (if any) on autopilot, there are potentially many testers who never get to run Minirosetta because the .exe goes immediately into a black hole. Somewhere in those 200,000 lines of code, something apparently looks funky.


That's weird, because I have NOD32 on one of my PC's and it doesn't have a problem with rosetta. I changed to Avast Pro... and still no problems :S
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Message 57968 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 14:33:05 UTC
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3 machines with XP Pro sp3 1 machine sp2,1 machine Server 2003, mini 1.47, last 24 hours has been all Exit Status -177 (oxffffff4f)Maximum Memory exceeded.

A Sample from 2 machines:

Task ID 215092853 workunit 196054490

Task ID 215087694 work unit 196045728

they both have same computer ID 964014

1 of the machines is running a Beta 5.98 task concurrently, Im going to holdout on detaching to see what it produces for a result.
88.12 RAC on 4 x XPPRO + 1 x server2003 x 24 hours

1 quadcore 2.66ghz
1 HT 2.8ghz
1 1.6ghz
1.5`ghz
1 Mobile at 1.9ghz
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Message 57972 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 16:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 57968.  

3 machines with XP Pro sp3 1 machine sp2,1 machine Server 2003, mini 1.47, last 24 hours has been all Exit Status -177 (oxffffff4f)Maximum Memory exceeded.

A Sample from 2 machines:

Task ID 215092853 workunit 196054490

Task ID 215087694 work unit 196045728

they both have same computer ID 964014

1 of the machines is running a Beta 5.98 task concurrently, Im going to holdout on detaching to see what it produces for a result.
88.12 RAC on 4 x XPPRO + 1 x server2003 x 24 hours

1 quadcore 2.66ghz
1 HT 2.8ghz
1 1.6ghz
1.5`ghz
1 Mobile at 1.9ghz



can you point to which specific machine(s) this is happening on.
you have so many there is no quick way to know which machine the tasks you listed belong to.
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Message 57974 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 17:11:29 UTC - in response to Message 57972.  

3 machines with XP Pro sp3 1 machine sp2,1 machine Server 2003, mini 1.47, last 24 hours has been all Exit Status -177 (oxffffff4f)Maximum Memory exceeded.

A Sample from 2 machines:

Task ID 215092853 workunit 196054490

Task ID 215087694 work unit 196045728

they both have same computer ID 964014

1 of the machines is running a Beta 5.98 task concurrently, Im going to holdout on detaching to see what it produces for a result.
88.12 RAC on 4 x XPPRO + 1 x server2003 x 24 hours

1 quadcore 2.66ghz
1 HT 2.8ghz
1 1.6ghz
1.5`ghz
1 Mobile at 1.9ghz



can you point to which specific machine(s) this is happening on.
you have so many there is no quick way to know which machine the tasks you listed belong to.


I merged machines to assist.

The 2 that I have posted tasks from are
964014
965938

The other machines with simular errors are
961824
954192
954486
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Message 57977 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 18:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 57974.  

3 machines with XP Pro sp3 1 machine sp2,1 machine Server 2003, mini 1.47, last 24 hours has been all Exit Status -177 (oxffffff4f)Maximum Memory exceeded.

A Sample from 2 machines:

Task ID 215092853 workunit 196054490

Task ID 215087694 work unit 196045728

they both have same computer ID 964014

1 of the machines is running a Beta 5.98 task concurrently, Im going to holdout on detaching to see what it produces for a result.
88.12 RAC on 4 x XPPRO + 1 x server2003 x 24 hours

1 quadcore 2.66ghz
1 HT 2.8ghz
1 1.6ghz
1.5`ghz
1 Mobile at 1.9ghz



can you point to which specific machine(s) this is happening on.
you have so many there is no quick way to know which machine the tasks you listed belong to.


I merged machines to assist.

The 2 that I have posted tasks from are
964014
965938

The other machines with simular errors are
961824
954192
954486



computer 964014 is less than their new recomendation of 512 memory. this must be one of the tasks they were talking about.

December 10, 2008
We are now recommending systems with at least 512MB of memory. The majority of tasks will run fine with 256MB but some tasks will involve larger proteins that will use more memory.

computer 965938 is having a lockfile issue, there has been alot of discussion in 1.45 thread about this. you have to delete the empty slot folders in the boinc slot folder located in the projects folder. do a search in forums about lockfiles. it is discussed heavily in the 1.45 thread.

only one other computer had an issue, but that is due to defective task.
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Message 57985 - Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 23:32:51 UTC - in response to Message 57902.  

HoHo kids!


And Happy Holidays to everyone at the Baker Lab, as well as my fellow crunchers.

Oh, and this WU failed: 214946535

<core_client_version>6.2.19</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)
</message>
<stderr_txt>

~Joel






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Message 57988 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 0:55:00 UTC

Like some other people mentioned, the WU titled

"cs_noe_fullw_nolin_homo_bench_cs_noe_abrelax_cs_flua_olange_5605_43_0"

appears to be running fine, but when I click "show graphics" the window becomes unresponsive and requires the app to restart. the other work units are working without any problem.
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Message 57989 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 0:58:56 UTC

I'm running vista64. I am running BOINC 64-bit edition. boincmgr.exe and boinctray.exe are running in 64-bit mode. however, minirosetta_1.47_windows_x86_64.exe is currently running in 32 bit mode. it says *32 next to the name, which I belive to indicate that it is running in 32-bit mode.
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Message 57994 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 4:33:25 UTC - in response to Message 57945.  

Not sure if this is related or not...

Crux of my problem is this, I have no graphic display, the screen saver is blank and when I hit the 'show graphics' button in the advanced view, it opens a window (title - minirosetta version 1.47 [workunit: cs_noe_ .... etc]) that is blank, and then becomes unresponsive within about 10 seconds and requires the process to be killed.

Bonic Manager Version : 6.4.5
Wigets Ver : 2.8.7
Rosetta application : Rosetta Mini 1.47
Microsoft Windows Vista Business x86 Editon, (06.00.6000.00)
Dont know if you need this but..
PC : GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 9], 1gb RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT

New account/install, 44 mins old according to its first work unit.. Vista is a fresh build, <24hrs old...

The workunits are running/progressing along, I would just like to see what im crunching :)


Getting this again...

cc_nonideal_1_0_nocst4_hb_t286__IGNORE_THE_REST_1ESCA_7_5665_10

WU ID 196233123
PC ID 966609
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Message 57995 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 6:17:59 UTC - in response to Message 57989.  

I'm running vista64. I am running BOINC 64-bit edition. boincmgr.exe and boinctray.exe are running in 64-bit mode. however, minirosetta_1.47_windows_x86_64.exe is currently running in 32 bit mode. it says *32 next to the name, which I belive to indicate that it is running in 32-bit mode.


As far as I know there is no real 64 bit version for rosetta. It is the 32 bit version in a 64 bit wrapper.
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Message 58006 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 16:13:30 UTC

I've the problem with Norton Antivirus 2009 too, it delete minirosetta exe file because it's a "high security risk threat".
I entered Boinc path in Norton exclusion paths to solve it, but it would be better if Rosetta staff talk to Norton staff to avoid this problem...
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Message 58010 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 19:25:23 UTC

Question on memory size..

Greetings!
First of all, thanks to all of the developers for debugging the code.

I have a question about the memory size and page fault rate for mini-rosetta 1.47 .

I was looking at the windows (XP) task manager and looking at the memory size and page fault rate.

I admit that I do not know what it all means - and would like to ask the forum for an explanation that would help me..

Environment: Here is what BOINC says:
Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 14 Stepping 12]
Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx
OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 4.87 GB virtual
Disk: 107.41 GB total, 78.57 GB free

Here is what the Task manger is showing for mini-rosetta 1.47
Mem usage: 184,944K ( Varying between 170,000K and 247,000K while I watched.)
PF delta: 3,228 ( in a three second period)
VM size: 199,344K ( and moving up to 243,000 K)

I was running 2 Boinc projects at once: Rosetta and WCG-clean energy.
If I suspend all others so that only Rosetta is running, the page faults are more sporadic, mostly zero, then up to 6,375 in the three second period.

With Boinc only running the Rosetta task, the task manager says:

Commit charge (K)
total: 788748
limit: 5107808
peak: 1319708

Physical Memory (K)
total: 2,095,532
available: 1,127,112
System cache: 838,252



Bottom Line - I assumed that the pf rate is not good.
Do you know of anything I can tweak to help??

THANK YOU!!
Jay E.

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