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Message 108782 - Posted: 26 Dec 2023, 22:08:48 UTC - in response to Message 108781.  

I don't know what your settings are but I'm getting nearly 100% valid tasks here on my both Windows and Linux pc;s.
Me too. Send more betas.

Some Robetta tasks - non-Beta - sneaking through atm.
Hardly any tbh, but not quite nothing
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Message 108783 - Posted: 27 Dec 2023, 15:52:25 UTC - in response to Message 108782.  

I don't know what your settings are but I'm getting nearly 100% valid tasks here on my both Windows and Linux pc;s.
Me too. Send more betas.

Some Robetta tasks - non-Beta - sneaking through atm.
Hardly any tbh, but not quite nothing

Sneaking a few new8v Beta tasks now but similarly hard to come by
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Message 108840 - Posted: 12 Feb 2024, 15:58:36 UTC - in response to Message 108755.  

I think that the 6.xx branch of code makes the same things as the 4.xx plus other things.
But it's in beta since the beginning of April.
Why not abandon the 4.xx branch (that has over 3 years old code)?


Still
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Message 108957 - Posted: 9 Mar 2024, 11:13:06 UTC
Last modified: 9 Mar 2024, 11:15:03 UTC

Current batch of Beta tasks have the same naming convention as Rosetta 4.20, and use a similar amount of RAM.
Roughly 1.2GB of RAM required per Task.


Also running for around 8 hours, not the previous Task runtime of around 3hrs.
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Message 108964 - Posted: 9 Mar 2024, 17:49:48 UTC - in response to Message 108957.  

Current batch of Beta tasks have the same naming convention as Rosetta 4.20, and use a similar amount of RAM.


And seems there are problems with the graphic...
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Message 108999 - Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 7:52:01 UTC

Some errors 1552811222, 1552784491, etc

ERROR: Error in protocols::cyclic_peptide_predict::SimpleCycpepPredictpplication::set_up_n_to_c_cyclization_mover() function: residue 1 does not have a LOWER_CONNECT.
ERROR:: Exit from: src/protocols/cyclic_peptide_predict/SimpleCycpepPredictApplication.cc line: 2442
BOINC:: Error reading and gzipping output datafile: default.out
08:36:42 (5544): called boinc_finish(1)

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Message 109002 - Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 10:49:43 UTC

Yep, another group of faulty Tasks in with the current batch.
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Message 109020 - Posted: 21 Mar 2024, 6:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 109002.  
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Yep, another group of faulty Tasks in with the current batch.


Today a lot of wus with this error:
residue 1 does not have a LOWER_CONNECT

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Message 109021 - Posted: 21 Mar 2024, 6:31:20 UTC - in response to Message 109020.  

New batch, same problem.
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Message 109022 - Posted: 21 Mar 2024, 13:39:02 UTC - in response to Message 109021.  
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New batch, same problem.


A little debug from admins is welcome.
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Message 109231 - Posted: 5 May 2024, 19:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 108999.  

ERROR: Error in protocols::cyclic_peptide_predict::SimpleCycpepPredictpplication::set_up_n_to_c_cyclization_mover() function: residue 1 does not have a LOWER_CONNECT.
ERROR:: Exit from: src/protocols/cyclic_peptide_predict/SimpleCycpepPredictApplication.cc line: 2442
BOINC:: Error reading and gzipping output datafile: default.out
08:36:42 (5544): called boinc_finish(1)


Still the same error.
After 2 months. Seems there is no debug of errors...
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Message 109245 - Posted: 13 May 2024, 4:44:13 UTC
Last modified: 13 May 2024, 5:03:08 UTC

A bug report (in the unlikely event that one of the developers still read forum and decides to fix some of the bugs).

On one of my computers (this one: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=1211592) ALL, without exception, tasks for the Rosetta Beta 6.xx application end with an error at the 1st minute of operation.
The error is always the same:
Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address ........... (address vary)

This is a fairly old, but still decent and stable computer running on an AMD Phenom II X6 processor (6 physical cores) and 16 GB of RAM

Tasks for Rosetta 4.x are performed on it without any problems (except for faulty tasks that cause errors on all computers like famous "CHI angle" or "residue LOWERCONNECT" errors) as well as many(thousands - literally) tasks for several other DC projects: Einstein@Home, World Community Grid, SiDock@Home.

This has been going on for several months by now (starting from Rosetta beta version 6.03, I think, because I've seen some valid WUs with early versions from the 6.x branch on this computer), killing many hundreds of WUs.
During this time, there were several computer reboots and I reset the project twice (this includes re-downloading of all executable files and data files).
Without changes.

I do not think that the problem is in the software configuration, because on other computers I have not just a similar, but almost identical setup (originally obtained by cloning the system disk from this one).
The main difference is that other computers have newer processors installed - also from AMD but from newer generations - Ryzen 7 2700 and Ryzen 5 5600X on which the Rosetta 6.xx application works without problems with same SW setup.

So one of the versions of the error causes is that the application is trying to use one of the new instruction sets (AVX maybe? or other never CPU features which old Phenom series lacking ) without proper verification of their availability causing errors on older CPUs.

It would be nice if someone from the owners of the old processors (like a Phenom or Core 2 DUO/QUAD) check this.
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Message 109407 - Posted: 22 Jun 2024, 6:58:46 UTC

Yesterday, a new kind of wus "test_asx_single_".
All errors after few seconds

ERROR: The residue ASX could not be generated. Has a suitable params file been loaded? (Note that custom params files not in the Rosetta database can be loaded with the -extra_res or -extra_res_fa command-line flags.)
ERROR:: Exit from: src/core/chemical/ResidueTypeSet.cc line: 116
BOINC:: Error reading and gzipping output datafile: default.out
06:55:44 (18124): called boinc_finish(1)

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Message 109423 - Posted: 29 Jun 2024, 7:47:01 UTC - in response to Message 109245.  

I also have an old computer that cannot run the Beta 6.4 tasks but is fine for the 4.x tasks.

Name 8a_hal_k_hal_8aa_2jp2703_d31_1_0001_SAVE_ALL_OUT_2978406_105_0
Workunit 1403453387
Created 25 Jun 2024, 12:04:52 UTC
Sent 25 Jun 2024, 12:29:47 UTC
Report deadline 28 Jun 2024, 12:29:47 UTC
Received 25 Jun 2024, 13:31:34 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Computation error
Client state Compute error
Exit status -1073741819 (0xC0000005) STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION
...
<core_client_version>7.16.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
(unknown error) - exit code 3221225477 (0xc0000005)</message>
<stderr_txt>
command: projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/rosetta_beta_6.04_windows_x86_64.exe @8a_hal_k_hal_8aa_2jp2703_d31_1_0001.flags -nstruct 10000 -cpu_run_time 28800 -boinc:max_nstruct 20000 -checkpoint_interval 120 -mute all -database minirosetta_database -in::file::zip minirosetta_database.zip -boinc::watchdog -boinc::cpu_run_timeout 36000 -run::rng mt19937
Using database: database_0f7f01a1b07database


Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00007FF6296448CC read attempt to address 0xFFFFFFFF
...
(address may vary)
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x000000000000000F


CPU type AuthenticAMD
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ [Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 1]
Number of processors 2
Coprocessors AMD ATI Radeon HD 5400/R5 210 series (Cedar) (2048MB) driver: 1.4.1848 OpenCL: 1.2


- Stopped using my computer from 1994 (free WIN95 upgrade) after 28 years. Outlived WIN98, XP, Vista computers.
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Message 109424 - Posted: 30 Jun 2024, 19:16:33 UTC - in response to Message 108305.  

Most projects let you choose whether you want to run beta applications or not.

I don't.

There's no way to shut these off other than stopping Rosetta work altogether.


That was 4/2023, now it's 6/2024, and this still hasn't been fixed? I came back wanting to run more Rosetta, but I'm getting 90% "beta" tasks that I don't want.

What happened to this being the best-run, best-communication, project on BOINC? Now it seems more like SZTAKI...
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Message 109427 - Posted: 3 Jul 2024, 8:30:24 UTC - in response to Message 109424.  

What happened to this being the best-run, best-communication, project on BOINC? Now it seems more like SZTAKI...


You're here, like me, for more than 15 years.
At the beginning there was a thread like "David Baker's Rosetta@home journal" (closed in 2017), the last news in the home page is June 2022, etc.
Maybe more "interaction" with volunteers can attract more people (and, listening us, to have a better app).

Maybe r@h became only a "divertissement" for IPD?
I don't think so, 'cause they would not be developing a new app as they are doing on Ralph.
But the lack of comunication is frustrating
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