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Message 38377 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 18:41:05 UTC - in response to Message 38360.  

I have to agree with Penguin on this matter and add that it was not so much the word spam but the way it was being presented by the person I have now filtered out. Again, as mod. sense was saying earlier, he was pushing our buttons and being generally disruptive to the community. Not only in word link but in last one to post here wins - the original. His actions lead to a back lash from me and others due to the perceived insult to the integrity of the thread, which in turn leads to a insult to those of us who were having a good time until said user came along with his spam message. Also in wordlink there was no insult or namecalling. It was inline with the words being presented at the time. Perhaps the more conservative types would call it provocative, again it was inline with the words being presented at the time and was posted strictly as fact and a word, nothing more. Wounded ego's have no place in a forum where we the other users are having a enjoyable time.

If the moderator wishes to erase the perceived insults, it is within his right to do so. His explanation was nice to read, versus just deletion and no explanation. But again, someone had to bring up the fact that the user in question was being disruptive, which leads to the disruptive messages being removed. Perhaps that is better, so that others do not get caught up in this mess.

Now, since we are done with this user and some of us have elected to filter him out of our screens, we should get back to what we were doing....having fun.

While I am not going to make a federal case out of it, I will state for the record that there was no intent to insult anyone's heritage, and accordingly the wordlink was not "namecalling".

However, if mods feel the potential for mis-understanding is too great, I do not object to the deletion.

I would remind everyone that the thread was entitled WordLink, and my wordlink was a legitimate response to the previous word "spam".

While other countries in the world may relish Hormel's spam as a culinary delight, here in the States, its reputation is not so esteemed, as reflected by its ingredients and my wordlink.

Wikipedia: "Spam is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. The labeled ingredients in the Classic variety of Spam are: chopped pork shoulder meat with ham meat added, salt, water, sugar, and sodium nitrite. It has gained a peculiar infamy, along with something of a place in pop culture, and has even entered into folklore and urban legend.

Since fresh meat was difficult to get to the soldiers on the front, World War II saw the largest use of Spam. GIs started eating Spam for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. (Some soldiers referred to Spam as "ham that didn't pass its physical" and "meatloaf without basic training.")

Many jocular backronyms have been devised, such as "Something Posing As Meat"

'nuf said.

EDIT --> I will apologize to Angus for any perceived insult he felt. And if a response such as mine (a definition from a dictionary) was in any other thread other than WordLink, I would likely agree that it would not be legitimate. However, when you post the word "spam" in a WordLink, you shouln't be overly surprised with what the legitimate responses could be.

I have deleted the two posts which you referenced, as you point out, they were namecalling.

If you wish to maintain your good family name, I suggest you make nice with the locals.



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Message 38388 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 20:46:56 UTC
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I think it's wonderful that the project has so many extra resources that they can have a play area for two or three people to have their little word-play games and post-count-pumping last-post-wins threads. Actually, it appears that the majority of the active threads in the Cafe are the personal playground for only two users (who have posted below).

Your signiture (sic) proudly boasts about being banned, and being a bad BOINC user.

If you were following the Trojan censoring scandal at Predictor, you would recognize this image as support for all those users wrongly banned from that forum.

About your comments on the red X, that is a topic which bears further discussion. It's not something I can directly control as a moderator, but I can make recommendations to the Project Team. Perhaps you could start a thread explaining your point and why it is needed in the Number Crunching board.

I'm not going to post about this AGAIN on Number Crunching just to give you another chance to whack me down for not posting in the Moderator thread.
This is a standard BOINC forum feature that only needs a configuration entry made to point red 'x' complaints to an email account for moderators to look at.

Go back 420+ days in this thread to see the discussion, then click the red 'x' youself to see the BOINC provided explanation of why it isn't working.






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Message 38392 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 23:26:49 UTC

since the filter doesn't seem to work, i think i will reply to poor poor angus's little hissy fit.

dude, get a life. we would welcome you if you would be more positive and would quit complaining like a spoil sport.

while there are two of us being a bit more vocal than the others, we are here to have fun. if you can't have fun what the ---- are you doing here in the cafe anyway?

and if you look at some of the other threads there are more than just two of us having FUN here.

so sorry to say this, but take your spoil sport soul somewhere else and let those of us who are here to have fun, have fun.

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Message 38401 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 23:56:59 UTC - in response to Message 38392.  
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since the filter doesn't seem to work, i think i will reply to poor poor angus's little hissy fit.

dude, get a life. we would welcome you if you would be more positive and would quit complaining like a spoil sport.

while there are two of us being a bit more vocal than the others, we are here to have fun. if you can't have fun what the ---- are you doing here in the cafe anyway?

and if you look at some of the other threads there are more than just two of us having FUN here.

so sorry to say this, but take your spoil sport soul somewhere else and let those of us who are here to have fun, have fun.

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So your idea of "fun" is quoting nursery rhymes to each other. How cute and adult of you.

How ironic that you advise me to "get a life" and you and your playmate spend your time and 95% of your posts playing silly words games.

And then you act like schoolkids running to the teacher when someone tells you your game is childish and a waste of time (not to mention bandwidth and server space).
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Message 38516 - Posted: 28 Mar 2007, 7:22:15 UTC
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Could you delete/hide the thread here for me (I started the thread).

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Message 38521 - Posted: 28 Mar 2007, 12:57:19 UTC

Sorry you feel that your forum experience is being interferred with Hugo. I did attempt to delete specific, clearly off-topic posts as I noticed them to remove such interferrence.
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Message 38793 - Posted: 1 Apr 2007, 8:40:01 UTC

question on filtering lame users
i was told recently to add a certain users number into the filter, however i see his posts in other threads i participate in and they are still the same old lame thing as when i first asked in here how to get rid of this user from my viewing.

the id of the user is in the filter, but they still show up. is something not working right? i thought the filter would eliminate them from all posts i view.
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Message 38807 - Posted: 1 Apr 2007, 15:42:35 UTC

whats with this filter rating stuff? -1 and so on?
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Message 38827 - Posted: 1 Apr 2007, 23:28:02 UTC
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When a user is in your filter list, you should see something like this any time they post:

This post has been filtered (rating: 0) and the user is on your ignore list, press here to view this thread without filtering

...is that not what you are seeing?

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A negative rating indicates that a user has clicked the pink minus sign under the message. In fact, a -1 indicates that of all the users that have voted on that message, one user more pressed the minus sign(-) then pressed the plus sign(+).

Check your message board preferences. You have the option of setting a rating filter. It is called "Filter threshold". If a post receives more negative votes then your prefernce, then it will be filtered as well as the users in your list.
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Message 38837 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 3:27:44 UTC

My filter threshold is set to -25 (default) and greg's id is now in my ignore list. The message with a filter setting of 0 shows up with no problem, but the message that has a filter setting of -1 says that the message is hidden because the poster is being ignored.

I'm using firefox 2.0; but this isn't the effect I'd expect from the filtering/ignoring. (Time to empty out my ignore list and set my filter threshold back to where I had it.)
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Message 38843 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 9:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 38837.  

The rating system has also been abused by members of a certain team to try to hide the recruiting post of my team. We had to have several members positive rate the post to counter the actions of that other team. Seems to be a bad feature and possibly for that reason not used on other BOINC boards.
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Message 38855 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 16:17:25 UTC - in response to Message 38827.  

This is what I see

This post has been filtered (rating: -1), press here to view this thread without filtering

When a user is in your filter list, you should see something like this any time they post:

This post has been filtered (rating: 0) and the user is on your ignore list, press here to view this thread without filtering

...is that not what you are seeing?

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A negative rating indicates that a user has clicked the pink minus sign under the message. In fact, a -1 indicates that of all the users that have voted on that message, one user more pressed the minus sign(-) then pressed the plus sign(+).

Check your message board preferences. You have the option of setting a rating filter. It is called "Filter threshold". If a post receives more negative votes then your prefernce, then it will be filtered as well as the users in your list.


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Message 38865 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 19:34:00 UTC - in response to Message 38855.  
Last modified: 2 Apr 2007, 19:34:55 UTC

So - what's the issue/problem? It sounds as if it's working OK.

The post doesn't disappear completely - just the message text is hidden until you click "here".

This is what I see

This post has been filtered (rating: -1), press here to view this thread without filtering

When a user is in your filter list, you should see something like this any time they post:

This post has been filtered (rating: 0) and the user is on your ignore list, press here to view this thread without filtering

...is that not what you are seeing?

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A negative rating indicates that a user has clicked the pink minus sign under the message. In fact, a -1 indicates that of all the users that have voted on that message, one user more pressed the minus sign(-) then pressed the plus sign(+).

Check your message board preferences. You have the option of setting a rating filter. It is called "Filter threshold". If a post receives more negative votes then your prefernce, then it will be filtered as well as the users in your list.


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Message 38873 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 20:19:04 UTC

Sounds like the issue is that posts with -1 rating are being filtered when they do not match the filter criteria. I will try it out my self here.
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Message 38886 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 22:54:29 UTC

The description of the ignore feature made it sound like someone on the ignore list would have to get positive ratings high enough to hit the emphasis rating to show up. But they show up at 0 for the default settings, which makes the setting - pointless.
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Message 38888 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 23:20:00 UTC - in response to Message 38865.  

Nemesis,

certain messages were not filtered before a certain user came to light.
since then alot of messages have been filtered to -1 and even replies are at -1.
if you have a look over in team synergy, all their messages are -1 filtered. So that is why I ask why the filter if there is nothing wrong with them. I think that Mod is thinking the same as I am, other than I have no idea what the filter limit is or how it works.

So - what's the issue/problem? It sounds as if it's working OK.

The post doesn't disappear completely - just the message text is hidden until you click "here".

This is what I see

This post has been filtered (rating: -1), press here to view this thread without filtering

When a user is in your filter list, you should see something like this any time they post:

This post has been filtered (rating: 0) and the user is on your ignore list, press here to view this thread without filtering

...is that not what you are seeing?

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A negative rating indicates that a user has clicked the pink minus sign under the message. In fact, a -1 indicates that of all the users that have voted on that message, one user more pressed the minus sign(-) then pressed the plus sign(+).

Check your message board preferences. You have the option of setting a rating filter. It is called "Filter threshold". If a post receives more negative votes then your prefernce, then it will be filtered as well as the users in your list.




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Message 38889 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 23:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 38886.  

positive ratings or not, when you want a person ignored, they should be filtered out of the forum they are in when you go view that forum. That is what a proper ignore should do and not be subject to what ratings system that can be manipulated to suit the person or friends of the persons interest.

The description of the ignore feature made it sound like someone on the ignore list would have to get positive ratings high enough to hit the emphasis rating to show up. But they show up at 0 for the default settings, which makes the setting - pointless.


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Message 38892 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 23:43:44 UTC
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The ratings system (+/-) is independent of the manual user filter process in the Forum Preferences.

Two different things.

You can put a user number in your filter list in Forum Preferences and it should block the message body content of all of their posts on this site. You will still see the header (the post number, date, user nick, etc.) and possibly the signature. So - you can see that they posted but you don't have to read their content unless you wish to.

You can also set your rating (+/-) filter level to filter the content of post that have ratings outside of your preferences, such as all posts with ratings worse than -5, or -25. The instructions in Message Board Preferences do lead one to believe that messages with a high ratings level (many +s) will override the manual filter list. Questions about that functionality would be best asked over on the BOINC message boards, as that is where those that program the forum software hang out.

The ratings system is a means for people to anonymously rate the content of a post, and has been the topic of much - umm - controversy in the BOINC community. Ratings wars were common at SETI.




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Message 38894 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007, 23:52:09 UTC - in response to Message 38886.  

The description of the ignore feature made it sound like someone on the ignore list would have to get positive ratings high enough to hit the emphasis rating to show up. But they show up at 0 for the default settings, which makes the setting - pointless.


I guess you should set your emphasis level higher.

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Message 38901 - Posted: 3 Apr 2007, 0:53:13 UTC

Does this mean I'm filter-proof?
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