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Message 25808 - Posted: 1 Sep 2006, 6:23:37 UTC

TestPilot:

1. I am not finished.
2. John made a post. He was then informed that we were trying to get your "TestPilot" account back so you didn't have to use the "Administrator" to post here. And because he was informed after posting, you claim he shouldn't have had that impression when he made his post?


3. That house is green. [a fact.]
I think that green house looks ugly. [an opinion.]
That green house is ugly. [an opinion stated as fact.]

There are more people running Seti than Rosetta@Home. [a fact.]
I feel that Seti wastes cpu cycles by using too large a quorum. [an opinion.]
Socially conscious people run Rosetta rather than Seti. [an opinion stated as fact.]

Try stating opinions in the "I think", "I feel", "It seems to me", "In my mind" formats.

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Message 25827 - Posted: 1 Sep 2006, 14:07:41 UTC - in response to Message 25808.  
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Mod.Tymbrimi
And because he was informed after posting, you claim he shouldn't have had that impression when he made his post?

That guy should not insult others by posting personal attack, irrelavantely if he was informed or not and his "impressions".



[an opinion stated as fact]

Here come example of opinion stated as a fact:
Mod.Tymbrimi If WCG using an older version of Rosetta requires 1000 results be tested to find a potential cure; while WCG using a newer version of Rosetta two years from now would require 20 results be tested to find the same cure.


You came to thread where problem gone, brought old stuff up, said " my sincerely apology" to guy who did nothing but posted unmotivated attack. You knew you starting flame. Now you selectively deleted posts, and starting to talk about "opinions as facts" and someones "impressions".

I'll try(the best I can) to post no futher on this subject cuz this is a flame discassion by nature.

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Message 25855 - Posted: 1 Sep 2006, 22:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 25827.  

That guy should not insult others by posting personal attack,

Granted. But why did he post that way? If there was something I could have done to keep him from posting that way, should I have done it? If I saw an approach that would have eliminated the temptation for him to respond that way, and I did not take it, should I apologize? And to whom should I apologize if I should apologize?

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Message 26057 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 0:06:19 UTC

Mod TymBrimi;

What is "schadenfreude"???,

You did not respond to my query about this in my email response.

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Message 26059 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 0:32:09 UTC

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Message 26071 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 6:29:14 UTC

That's not a word I use, Mike047. And one of the reasons I haven't responded to your email is that I'm basically a moderator initiate. I haven't moved up to handling the email, yet.
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Message 26110 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 15:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 26057.  

Mod TymBrimi;

What is "schadenfreude"???,

You did not respond to my query about this in my email response.

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That was me. It's a german word but I read somewhere that it is used in english as well like the Reinheitsgebot for example. The moderator email is still not available to all mods but hopefully soon.

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Message 26133 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 21:17:18 UTC - in response to Message 26071.  

That's not a word I use, Mike047. And one of the reasons I haven't responded to your email is that I'm basically a moderator initiate. I haven't moved up to handling the email, yet.



Hey THANKS for your response, sorry that I assumed it was you.:(
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Message 26134 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 21:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 26110.  
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Mod TymBrimi;

What is "schadenfreude"???,

You did not respond to my query about this in my email response.

Thanks
mike


That was me. It's a german word but I read somewhere that it is used in english as well like the Reinheitsgebot for example. The moderator email is still not available to all mods but hopefully soon.

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THANKS DE for your response, sorry for confusing you with TYM:(

I guess I'll have to do a German word search. Being an American, I am linguistically challenged:D, And apparently don't do well at my posting sometimes:(:)
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Message 26135 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 21:23:19 UTC - in response to Message 26110.  

Mod TymBrimi;

What is "schadenfreude"???,

You did not respond to my query about this in my email response.

Thanks
mike


That was me. It's a german word but I read somewhere that it is used in english as well like the Reinheitsgebot for example. The moderator email is still not available to all mods but hopefully soon.

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That means something like "malicious delight"....
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Message 26138 - Posted: 5 Sep 2006, 22:43:14 UTC
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The link Vester posted gives the definition as, "A malicious satisfaction obtained from the misfortunes of others."

It reminded me of the name of the story teller in The Thousand and One Nights; perhaps the male version of her name.

I'll have to get into the habit of signing the messages. Hmm.. Perhaps I could delete a few messages of Ethan's, sign it as Mod.De and see how quickly it's noticed that my writing style and his are different. <evil grin> Posting this makes it impossible to get away with the prank. Besides, deleting messages and writing helpful comments is not something I find fun; as you're limited with the sense of humor you can use, or it's taken wrong.

Perhaps, someday, I will live up to my pseudonym. But first, I should work on the serious side of this task, before moving on to fun stuff.




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Message 26426 - Posted: 9 Sep 2006, 5:58:37 UTC

Dr David Kim may need to see this it's not something that I've seen before.
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Message 26676 - Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 3:20:51 UTC - in response to Message 26426.  

hugothehermit:
Dr David Kim may need to see

David Kim mentions here that he's not a PhD. We seem to get away with referring to David Baker as Dr., though.
The link you shared was passed on to David Kim. Let us know when it's been addressed, if we don't notice it first. <smile>


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Message 27245 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 3:27:50 UTC - in response to Message 26138.  

The link Vester posted gives the definition as, "A malicious satisfaction obtained from the misfortunes of others."


There's a song titled "Schadenfreude" from the musical Avenue Q. Very good play and very good song. It also explains the concept nicely.

Check it out. The lyrics are here: http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/avenueq/schadenfreude.htm Much better when listen to than when read but there are some laws or something that keep me from sharing the audio :)

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Message 27315 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 15:48:36 UTC
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Would someone please remove this result that has been in my results stack since March 2?

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=12282807
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Message 27316 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 15:55:19 UTC

Dag, we've got the issue of WUs sticking on the results page on our list of items that require the review of the project team. From what I can tell the problem is very rare, and has zero impact on your operations, and so I believe it's got a rather low priority. If I'm mistaken on the pervasiveness (I've seen post from about 3 people in total effected I believe) or the impact, be sure to let us know.
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Message 27334 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 17:09:16 UTC - in response to Message 27315.  
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Would someone please remove this result that has been in my results stack since March 2?

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=12282807


I have some to.

This computer has 2 https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=9804&offset=40

Here is 1 more https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=12939447

and this computer has 2 https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=184505

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Message 27489 - Posted: 19 Sep 2006, 2:23:54 UTC
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Here's a hotmail user that isn't receiving the emails from the Rosetta server. carl.h mentioned he wasn't receiving the message delete alerts on his hotmail account. Does someone else who uses a hotmail account want to test this and see if all the Rosetta messages are being stored in the junk/bulk mail folder on hotmail?


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Message 27502 - Posted: 19 Sep 2006, 3:21:46 UTC

from mod email:

Thanks for your concern about which threads drift off the page... have you confused this one for the Moderators CONTACT thread? This one is where we push posts once they are resolved. We already have the OTHER stickied. --Mod.Sense


Not confused at all. It is important to see which topics have been previously addressed, so as to not repeat a request, or to see what the resolution was.

They both should be stickied, or left combined.


Nemesis n. A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.


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Message 27516 - Posted: 19 Sep 2006, 5:46:41 UTC

No annonymous moderators

Annonymous or not, moderators should not have two accounts. Someone had a good analogy earlier in this thread: You *can't* be referee and player in the same game.

No one can ever be sure you are really acting in a fair and unbiased manner....even if you do!

So if you want to moderate, then great! Be a moderator. But that should mean giving up posting under your private acount for the duration.

It also has the advantage of making the issue of anonymity moot.
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