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Message 18329 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 1:41:29 UTC
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We updated our boinc servers today to BOINC version 5.5.0. Please report issues regarding the server upgrade here.

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Message 18332 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 2:58:53 UTC
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Just 'Merged' our machines.....no problems apparent.....thanks for the upgrade (fix).....Cheers, Rog.
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Message 18334 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 3:53:16 UTC - in response to Message ID 18332.

Just 'Merged' our machines.....no problems apparent.....thanks for the upgrade (fix).....Cheers, Rog.



I just tried merging a couple of mine, but after I clicked on the link to merge them, the list of computers ("check which computer is the same as [NAME]" or something like that) showed no computers.

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Message 18335 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 3:59:54 UTC - in response to Message ID 18334.
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Just 'Merged' our machines.....no problems apparent.....thanks for the upgrade (fix).....Cheers, Rog.



I just tried merging a couple of mine, but after I clicked on the link to merge them, the list of computers ("check which computer is the same as [NAME]" or something like that) showed no computers.

>Your machines must be identical in order to merge....ie have the same specs. If the server finds no matches, no merges can take place....Cheers, Rog.
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Message 18370 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 13:20:39 UTC - in response to Message ID 18329.

after upload successfull, some results aren't credited and aren't shaw as reported

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Message 18371 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 13:42:18 UTC - in response to Message ID 18370.

after upload successfull, some results aren't credited and aren't shaw as reported


which results for example? I browsed your results and couldn't find non-credited ones.

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Message 18390 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 16:56:34 UTC - in response to Message ID 18370.

after upload successfull, some results aren't credited and aren't shaw as reported


I've noticed this as well. If the WUs are still shown in your work (or "tasks") tab of BOINC Manager, it means you have uploaded, but not yet "reported" them. Once that phase completes, you will see the details.

If the WUs ended with errors, there is a daily task that runs to grant credit. And when this occurs, you have to look in the WU details to see the credit issued, (at least prior to this server upgrade) as it is not shown in the list of WUs.
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Message 18403 - Posted 10 Jun 2006 19:17:38 UTC

Do not know if it is a problem with the upgrade or me, but I am not getting any new work. Have reset the project as well. So guess I will wait 24 hrs and see.

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Message 18432 - Posted 11 Jun 2006 2:09:29 UTC - in response to Message ID 18403.

...I am not getting any new work.

John, do you run other projects? Is there a message in the messages tab about being overcommitted, and running earliest deadline first? If so, yes, just be patient. BOINC has decided to spend some time elsewhere and will return to Rosetta soon. If not, do you have any work on your PC? What is your General Preference for "connect to network every ... days"?

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Message 18435 - Posted 11 Jun 2006 2:35:08 UTC

From new participant "bird-dog":

I want to add the same Avatar I use in other projects but every time I try, after clicking update in the Edit preferences I get the following.

Couldn't update forum preferences.
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Looks like other projects are having the same problem. Due to the server upgrade?
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Message 18440 - Posted 11 Jun 2006 3:07:55 UTC

After the "UPgrade"

One of my pcs, that crunched OK before that

continued crunching OK -:) Great !!!

Only there is this additional message on the "log" at each "Work Request"


2006-06-10 23:38:34 [rosetta@home] Message from server: Your computer has only 254119936 bytes of memory; workunit requires 245880064 more bytes


And then, the job cruches OK, and upload OK, without any erros !

So, the message is misleading

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Message 18467 - Posted 11 Jun 2006 15:22:23 UTC

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I am not sure if this has anything to do with the update but my Tasks started erroring. My last sucessfull task was 10 Jun 2006 5:48:24 UTC. I have reset the project, but not downloaded any new tasks yet.

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2006-06-11 10:10:19 [rosetta@home] Resuming computation for result t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1 using rosetta version 522
2006-06-11 10:10:20 [---] using earliest-deadline-first scheduling because computer is overcommitted.
2006-06-11 10:11:47 [rosetta@home] Result t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
2006-06-11 10:11:47 [rosetta@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
2006-06-11 10:11:47 [---] Rescheduling CPU: application exited
2006-06-11 10:11:58 [rosetta@home] Restarting result t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1 using rosetta version 522
2006-06-11 10:14:20 [rosetta@home] Result t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
2006-06-11 10:14:20 [rosetta@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
2006-06-11 10:14:20 [---] Rescheduling CPU: application exited
2006-06-11 10:14:20 [rosetta@home] Restarting result t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1 using rosetta version 522
2006-06-11 10:14:57 [---] Rescheduling CPU: application exited
2006-06-11 10:14:57 [rosetta@home] Computation for result t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1 finished
2006-06-11 10:14:59 [rosetta@home] Starting result t314__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom003__666_12281_0 using rosetta version 522
2006-06-11 10:16:11 [rosetta@home] Result t314__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom003__666_12281_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
2006-06-11 10:16:12 [rosetta@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
2006-06-11 10:16:12 [---] Rescheduling CPU: application exited
2006-06-11 10:16:12 [rosetta@home] Unrecoverable error for result t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1 (<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom013__638_3836_1_0</file_name>
<error_code>-161</error_code>
<error_message></error_message>
</file_xfer_error>
)
2006-06-11 10:16:12 [rosetta@home] Restarting result t314__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom003__666_12281_0 using rosetta version 522
2006-06-11 10:48:03 [---] Rescheduling CPU: application exited
2006-06-11 10:48:03 [rosetta@home] Computation for result t314__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom003__666_12281_0 finished
2006-06-11 10:48:05 [rosetta@home] Starting result t299__CASP7_JUMPABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_BARCODE_hom003__676_7666_0 using rosetta version 522
2006-06-11 10:48:08 [rosetta@home] Started upload of t314__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom003__666_12281_0_0
2006-06-11 10:48:32 [rosetta@home] Finished upload of t314__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_hom003__666_12281_0_0
2006-06-11 10:48:32 [rosetta@home] Throughput 721 bytes/sec
2006-06-11 11:06:12 [---] Rescheduling CPU: project reset by user
2006-06-11 11:06:12 [rosetta@home] Resetting project
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Message 18470 - Posted 11 Jun 2006 17:29:22 UTC

I have a number of computers with less than 512Megs of ram, and since the upgrade I have been getting a number of error messages on those computers like this:

6/10/2006 5:30:21 PM|rosetta@home|Message from server: Your computer has only 266780672 bytes of memory; workunit requires 233219328 more bytes

The work units download and complete without any problems, but the computers then stop communicating with the server. So the results are never sent in for credit and the computers stop requesting work.

I realize that the minimum requirement is 512megs, but these computers have been crunching without any problems for 6 months. Are you now forcing computers to have 512megs before allowing them to take part in the project?

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Message 18476 - Posted 11 Jun 2006 19:53:16 UTC

Perhaps it's coincidence, but the Ralph site's no longer allowing result-reports or downloads, and has been reporting "project down for maintenance" since about the time of the server update. (& server status shows the feeder is down). Only posting here in case staff might see it sooner, since no one has responded or posted news on the RALPH boards. Meanwhile best of luck on any issues coming from the server update.

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Message 18477 - Posted 11 Jun 2006 20:02:58 UTC
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I've noticed that each time my computer contacts the project, a new host is created. As a result after one day, there are 7 new hosts - clones of the same pc, each with only one result on account.
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Message 18488 - Posted 12 Jun 2006 2:08:44 UTC - in response to Message ID 18477.

I've noticed that each time my computer contacts the project, a new host is created. As a result after one day, there are 7 new hosts - clones of the same pc, each with only one result on account.


Sebastian, are you using BAM?
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Message 18502 - Posted 12 Jun 2006 9:45:44 UTC

Help can't upload result. All result are just queue up.

2006-06-12 17:41:35 [rosetta@home] Started upload of x287__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT__633_620_0_0
2006-06-12 17:41:39 [rosetta@home] Temporarily failed upload of x287__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT__633_620_0_0: error 502
2006-06-12 17:41:39 [rosetta@home] Backing off 23 minutes and 57 seconds on upload of file x287__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT__633_620_0_0
2006-06-12 17:41:45 [rosetta@home] Started upload of x287__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT__633_620_0_0
2006-06-12 17:41:49 [rosetta@home] Temporarily failed upload of x287__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT__633_620_0_0: error 502
2006-06-12 17:41:49 [rosetta@home] Backing off 3 hours, 0 minutes, and 31 seconds on upload of file x287__CASP7_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT__633_620_0_0
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Message 18509 - Posted 12 Jun 2006 12:31:57 UTC - in response to Message ID 18477.

I've noticed that each time my computer contacts the project, a new host is created. As a result after one day, there are 7 new hosts - clones of the same pc, each with only one result on account.


Yep, this problem seems to be rearing its head again. All other projects that had this problem, but have now upgraded are still ok, it seems that rosetta is the odd one out.
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Message 18531 - Posted 12 Jun 2006 18:37:55 UTC - in response to Message ID 18488.

Sebastian, are you using BAM?


Yes, i'am using BAM, but problem exists even on hosts which aren't connected to BAM.
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Message 18545 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 0:27:32 UTC

My machinces are not getting new work since the upgrade. Is anyone else having this problem ????
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Message 18546 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 0:54:00 UTC - in response to Message ID 18470.

I have a number of computers with less than 512Megs of ram, and since the upgrade I have been getting a number of error messages on those computers like this:

6/10/2006 5:30:21 PM|rosetta@home|Message from server: Your computer has only 266780672 bytes of memory; workunit requires 233219328 more bytes

The work units download and complete without any problems, but the computers then stop communicating with the server. So the results are never sent in for credit and the computers stop requesting work.

I realize that the minimum requirement is 512megs, but these computers have been crunching without any problems for 6 months. Are you now forcing computers to have 512megs before allowing them to take part in the project?


I'd like to second this post. I have 2 old windows machines - a 300MHz PII with 384 meg of memory running Win98SE and an 667 MHZ PIII with only 128 meg of memory running Win2K. Both have been crunching just fine (the Win 98SE machine seems also to not have the problem where the app does not report cpu time any more. It's been several days since I saw that one. Did that get fixed?)

Anyway, the PIII is now reporting this message (with different nuumbers) a couple of dozen times when it contacts the server. It then backs off for 24 hours. It does not stop communicating. I can manually update the project. I saw this once before last week and a manual update worked. Now it does not. It reports back the same error about not enough memory, and backs off 24 hours. If this continues, it should switch over to my backup project, SIMAP once the RAH workunits complete. I run 99% RAH and 1% SIMAP on all three of my machines (third one is an AMD XP2600+ running Linux and 1 gig of memory.)

I increaed the swap area on the PIII and yes, it does swap a bit, but it is still is able to crunch the workunits. I would really like to have it work on RAH if at all possible. I could spring to the PC100 memory it needs, but I didn't want to sink any money into the old machine. Maybe I'll have to.

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Message 18547 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 2:13:13 UTC - in response to Message ID 18546.



Anyway, the PIII is now reporting this message (with different nuumbers) a couple of dozen times when it contacts the server.



I just wanted to emphasize that when the system does contact the RAH servers, whether it does it itself or I manually force an update, I get the message about not enought memory repeated many many times, not just once. The last time was 184 times. The time before that was 177 times.

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Message 18549 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 2:49:24 UTC - in response to Message ID 18547.

Just tried another manual update. This time there were no messages about not enough memory and it downloaded a new WU. Strange!

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Message 18550 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 4:15:23 UTC - in response to Message ID 18470.

I have a number of computers with less than 512Megs of ram, and since the upgrade I have been getting a number of error messages on those computers like this:

6/10/2006 5:30:21 PM|rosetta@home|Message from server: Your computer has only 266780672 bytes of memory; workunit requires 233219328 more bytes

The work units download and complete without any problems, but the computers then stop communicating with the server. So the results are never sent in for credit and the computers stop requesting work.

I realize that the minimum requirement is 512megs, but these computers have been crunching without any problems for 6 months. Are you now forcing computers to have 512megs before allowing them to take part in the project?

>We have received the same message on a machine with 469Meg RAM.....had to manually upgrade to get more work.....seems to be a growing problem with machines that were happily crunching R@H before the upgrade.....Cheers, Rog.
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Message 18552 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 10:30:48 UTC - in response to Message ID 18550.

I have a number of computers with less than 512Megs of ram, and since the upgrade I have been getting a number of error messages on those computers like this:

6/10/2006 5:30:21 PM|rosetta@home|Message from server: Your computer has only 266780672 bytes of memory; workunit requires 233219328 more bytes

The work units download and complete without any problems, but the computers then stop communicating with the server. So the results are never sent in for credit and the computers stop requesting work.

I realize that the minimum requirement is 512megs, but these computers have been crunching without any problems for 6 months. Are you now forcing computers to have 512megs before allowing them to take part in the project?

>We have received the same message on a machine with 469Meg RAM.....had to manually upgrade to get more work.....seems to be a growing problem with machines that were happily crunching R@H before the upgrade.....Cheers, Rog.


I would also like to second this post. I have an 8-way server with only 256MB RAM running Linux. It crunched great before the upgrade, but now I have also a lot of errors indicating I have not enough memory and then the communication stops for 24 hours.
Manually forcing an update does some help, but I do not get enough WU for all my processors...

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Message 18553 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 11:40:03 UTC - in response to Message ID 18549.

Just tried another manual update. This time there were no messages about not enough memory and it downloaded a new WU. Strange!


This morning when I checked the PIII it had asked for a new WU overnight and had received an uncounted number of messages about not enough memory and had backed off for 24 hours. I tried a manual update. I got a couple dozen messages about not enough memory and then it started downloading a new WU.

Here is what I think is happening. It contacts the server asking for a new WU. The server starts going through a list of available WUs. If my machine does not meet the memory requirements, it gets sent one of these error messages. This continues until either the list is exhausted, in which case it causes a 24 hour backoff, or it happens to hit a WU in the list that has small memory requirement. In this latter case the WU is sent as usual.

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Message 18573 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 16:07:49 UTC - in response to Message ID 18553.
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Here is what I think is happening. It contacts the server asking for a new WU. The server starts going through a list of available WUs. If my machine does not meet the memory requirements, it gets sent one of these error messages. This continues until either the list is exhausted, in which case it causes a 24 hour backoff, or it happens to hit a WU in the list that has small memory requirement. In this latter case the WU is sent as usual.

Charlie

>You could very well be right, Charlie. There was some talk of assigning certain WUs to machines with 1G memory before the upgrade and maybe this problem follows from that......I don't know what has happened to the usual excellent communication from the Admins (CASP7?) but it would be nice to know what's up so we can upgrade RAM or whatever....Cheers, Rog.
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Message 18575 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 16:34:07 UTC


When I try to update my "Message board preferences" I get the following error:
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Is there a fix listed for this?


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Message 18577 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 17:19:07 UTC

I'll notify Rhiju and Bin about this issue and see what we can do if this is indeed what is happening.

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Message 18585 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 18:45:52 UTC - in response to Message ID 18577.

I'll notify Rhiju and Bin about this issue and see what we can do if this is indeed what is happening.


Thanks for taking care of this.

On a side note, Linux-pc's have normally enough swap-space available to handle those large WU's. As said before, I got an old server with 8 CPU's and only 256MB of RAM, which needs to be shared among those 8 CPU's and I have never had 1 error on a WU.

Right now, my RAC is dropping like hell! :)

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Message 18586 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 18:53:45 UTC - in response to Message ID 18585.

Bin and I are on it. Its exactly the scenario that Charles described below. We'll figure out a solution!

I'll notify Rhiju and Bin about this issue and see what we can do if this is indeed what is happening.


Thanks for taking care of this.

On a side note, Linux-pc's have normally enough swap-space available to handle those large WU's. As said before, I got an old server with 8 CPU's and only 256MB of RAM, which needs to be shared among those 8 CPU's and I have never had 1 error on a WU.

Right now, my RAC is dropping like hell! :)

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Message 18587 - Posted 13 Jun 2006 19:00:11 UTC - in response to Message ID 18586.

Bin and I are on it. Its exactly the scenario that Charles described below. We'll figure out a solution!

I'll notify Rhiju and Bin about this issue and see what we can do if this is indeed what is happening.


Thanks for taking care of this.

On a side note, Linux-pc's have normally enough swap-space available to handle those large WU's. As said before, I got an old server with 8 CPU's and only 256MB of RAM, which needs to be shared among those 8 CPU's and I have never had 1 error on a WU.

Right now, my RAC is dropping like hell! :)

Just my 2 cents




Great! Thanks for all the hard work! I increaed the swap space on my old Windows boxes a while ago so total memory (physical + virtual) on them should be more than enough. I don't care if they swap like heck every once in a while. One is my music server (feeding a NetGear MP101 attached to my entertainment center) and the other is only around to run Microsoft Money for tracking family finances and I can turn off the crunching when I need to use them.

Keep up the good work!

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Message 18601 - Posted 14 Jun 2006 0:37:42 UTC - in response to Message ID 18586.

Bin and I are on it. Its exactly the scenario that Charles described below. We'll figure out a solution!

>Thanks, Guys.....Cheers, Rog.

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Message 18607 - Posted 14 Jun 2006 2:51:51 UTC - in response to Message ID 18575.


When I try to update my "Message board preferences" I get the following error:
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Is there a fix listed for this?


David Kim reports that this issue has been fixed.
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Message 18629 - Posted 14 Jun 2006 11:51:36 UTC - in response to Message ID 18586.

Bin and I are on it. Its exactly the scenario that Charles described below. We'll figure out a solution!


Possibly a new development? It appears now that I only get a single message that I do not have enough memory rather than a large batch of messages. However, it still backs off for 24 hours. Any chance of lowering that to an hour or two or going into an exponential backoff starting at a small time period and getting progressivly larger up to a max of a hour or two?

Right now my queue length on this machine is 0.5 days and the WU run time is set for 4 hours. I may have to adjust that upwards so that I have more than a day's worth of work in my queue so as not to run out when it goes into a 24 hour backoff.

Again, thanks for all the hard work.

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Message 18637 - Posted 14 Jun 2006 13:45:12 UTC - in response to Message ID 18607.


When I try to update my "Message board preferences" I get the following error:
Couldn't update forum preferences.
Unknown column 'minimum_wrap_postcount' in 'field list'

Is there a fix listed for this?


David Kim reports that this issue has been fixed.


Worked perfectly. That was very quick, thanks.


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Message 18655 - Posted 14 Jun 2006 19:50:05 UTC - in response to Message ID 18637.

I'm in the same boat, just the one line saying not enough memory then the box inexplicably sits idle for 24 hours unless I manually intervene.
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Message 18698 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 10:41:24 UTC - in response to Message ID 18655.

I'm in the same boat, just the one line saying not enough memory then the box inexplicably sits idle for 24 hours unless I manually intervene.



Is anyone working on this? I found 4 of my boxes sitting idle this morning again due to the same problem. What a waste of time and resources. When this happens I'm getting about half the work I should be. Multiply that by the thousands of computers ruuning Rosetta and this must be a huge problem.
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Message 18699 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 11:51:08 UTC - in response to Message ID 18698.

I'm in the same boat, just the one line saying not enough memory then the box inexplicably sits idle for 24 hours unless I manually intervene.



Is anyone working on this? I found 4 of my boxes sitting idle this morning again due to the same problem. What a waste of time and resources. When this happens I'm getting about half the work I should be. Multiply that by the thousands of computers ruuning Rosetta and this must be a huge problem.


You may want to consider a backup project if all you do now is RAH and you'd like your machines to not run out of any kind of work. I figured SIMAP was somewhat related (it deals with protein similarities - something that RAH uses in its algorithms) so I set up my RAH resource share at 9900 and my SIMAP share at 100. That gives me 99.0% RAH and 1.0% SIMAP. When you first do this, your BIONC client may download several SIMAP workunits and very slowly crunch away on them. As they near their deadline the client will most likely go into earliest deadline first mode and finish off any remaining SIMAP workunits. Then, as long as there are RAH workunits available, you'll crunch only those for the next several weeks until the long term debt for SIMAP is lowered enough to start the process over. Of course, if RAH cannot supply work, SIMAP will take over until RAH can once again supply work.

If you choose to go this route, just give BOINC a chance to work by itself. Resist the temptation to play with the scheduling and all will work out well. I've used SIMAP here because that is what I use. You may prefer some other project as a backup. Also, there is nothing to prevent you from using more that one project as a backup. Just give them all a low resource share. Other people prefer to join multiple projects and give them all equal resource shares or somethng other than very low shares.

Meanwhile, I have one old machine that has this problem of low memory. I moved it to a different venue (I typically use Home but switched this one over to School) and set the time to contact the server to 2 days for the School venue (Home is set at 0.5 days). At least that way when it does contact the server, either by itself or if I force a manual update, it will have enough work so that it hopefully will not run out until the next time I can check on it.

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Message 18702 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 13:46:51 UTC - in response to Message ID 18698.
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I'm in the same boat, just the one line saying not enough memory then the box inexplicably sits idle for 24 hours unless I manually intervene.



Is anyone working on this? I found 4 of my boxes sitting idle this morning again due to the same problem. What a waste of time and resources. When this happens I'm getting about half the work I should be. Multiply that by the thousands of computers ruuning Rosetta and this must be a huge problem.

I a Post lower down in this thread, Rhiju and Bin are in fact aware of and working on this issue. However the problem is not as wide spread as you might believe. Most systems that are seeing this error message are also still getting work.

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Message 18703 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 13:56:44 UTC

I've been tryingt to get my computer to share it's resources wiht the Rosetta@home project, but when I try to register I keep getting an error message that states: Failure to attach. I've installed the lastest BOINC 5.4.9 and originally attempted to work with Rosetta on 13 Feb 2006. What do I need to do to get this program to work?
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Message 18706 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 14:33:16 UTC - in response to Message ID 18703.
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I've been tryingt to get my computer to share it's resources wiht the Rosetta@home project, but when I try to register I keep getting an error message that states: Failure to attach. I've installed the lastest BOINC 5.4.9 and originally attempted to work with Rosetta on 13 Feb 2006. What do I need to do to get this program to work?
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Since you already have an ID here on the Rosetta site, when you use the BOINC project attach function you must check the "use existing account" button when it askes for the user ID and password. It should then attach and begin loading software.

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Message 18732 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 21:03:15 UTC - in response to Message ID 18706.

I've been tryingt to get my computer to share it's resources wiht the Rosetta@home project, but when I try to register I keep getting an error message that states: Failure to attach. I've installed the lastest BOINC 5.4.9 and originally attempted to work with Rosetta on 13 Feb 2006. What do I need to do to get this program to work?
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Since you already have an ID here on the Rosetta site, when you use the BOINC project attach function you must check the "use existing account" button when it askes for the user ID and password. It should then attach and begin loading software.


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Message 18733 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 21:05:23 UTC

I just tried attaching again and got the same error message. Also it says Incomplete request received. I used my account key in place of my password because I've forgotten it. Could this be the problem?
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Message 18738 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 21:50:35 UTC - in response to Message ID 18733.

I just tried attaching again and got the same error message. Also it says Incomplete request received. I used my account key in place of my password because I've forgotten it. Could this be the problem?
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jas, you can reset your password by:

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2. logging in with your account key

3. clicking on the "password" link in the "Change" row under "Account information".

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Message 18745 - Posted 15 Jun 2006 23:30:52 UTC - in response to Message ID 18733.

I just tried attaching again and got the same error message. Also it says Incomplete request received. I used my account key in place of my password because I've forgotten it. Could this be the problem?
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Yes that could be the issue. The advice provided by David Kim is the way to go. Just change the password to something you know and use it to attach.
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Message 18747 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 0:36:29 UTC

I followed the steps you suggested. Changed my password, then went through the steps again to attach. Still getting the same error message, now what?
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Message 18749 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 1:15:03 UTC

Can you try starting from scratch - uninstall boinc and then reinstall it?

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Message 18751 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 1:31:41 UTC
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Jas, Are you using the URL (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta), then selecting "use existing account" and entering your email address and newly created password, and still getting "failed to attach"???

If so, Then please copy and paste first 30 lines of your "messages tab" (from inside the boinc manager). Here's a sample from mine. I need the lines similar to my first ones, then the next 30.

thanks

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6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||Starting BOINC client version 5.4.9 for windows_intelx86
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||libcurl/7.15.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||Memory: 1023.48 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||Disk: 19.53 GB total, 2.55 GB free
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM|rosetta@home|URL: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID: 212252; location: home; project prefs: default
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM|boincsimap|URL: http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/; Computer ID: 7246; location: home; project prefs: default
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM|ralph@home|URL: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/; Computer ID: 2172; location: home; project prefs: default
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 1607667; location: home; project prefs: default
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2006-05-10 22:35:23)
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||Local control only allowed
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM||Listening on port 31416
6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM|ralph@home|Resuming task t296__CASP7_JUMPABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_BARCODE_nterm_hom001__655_982_0 using rosetta_beta version 523
6/15/2006 3:33:25 PM||Rescheduling CPU: application exited
6/15/2006 3:33:25 PM|ralph@home|Computation for task t296__CASP7_JUMPABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_BARCODE_nterm_hom001__655_982_0 finished
6/15/2006 3:33:26 PM|ralph@home|Starting task t306__CASP7_JUMPRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_BARCODE_hom017__699_4_0 using rosetta_beta version 523
6/15/2006 3:33:28 PM|ralph@home|Started upload of file t296__CASP7_JUMPABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_BARCODE_nterm_hom001__655_982_0_0
6/15/2006 3:33:33 PM|ralph@home|Finished upload of file t296__CASP7_JUMPABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_BARCODE_nterm_hom001__655_982_0_0
6/15/2006 3:33:33 PM|ralph@home|Throughput 23406 bytes/sec
6/15/2006 4:06:55 PM|ralph@home|Sending scheduler request to http://ralph.bakerlab.org/ralph_cgi/cgi
6/15/2006 4:06:55 PM|ralph@home|Reason: Requested by user
6/15/2006 4:06:55 PM|ralph@home|Reporting 1 tasks
6/15/2006 4:07:00 PM|ralph@home|Scheduler request succeeded

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Message 18752 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 1:45:42 UTC

I had already deleted and reinstalled the Boinc program before I received your message, but here are my messages that I received after reinstalling and trying to attach again. Same results.
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6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.4.9 for windows_intelx86
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||libcurl/7.15.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Memory: 1022.09 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Disk: 144.32 GB total, 128.46 GB free
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: not assigned yet; location: home; project prefs: default
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||General prefs: from (last modified 1969-12-31 18:00:00)
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Local control only allowed
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Listening on port 31416
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Suspending network activity - user is active
6/15/2006 8:42:17 PM||Fetching configuration file from http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/get_project_config.php
6/15/2006 8:42:17 PM||Resuming network activity
6/15/2006 8:42:18 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
6/15/2006 8:42:18 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work
6/15/2006 8:42:18 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
6/15/2006 8:42:23 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded
6/15/2006 8:42:23 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Incomplete request received.
6/15/2006 8:42:23 PM|SETI@home|No work from project
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Scheduler list download succeeded
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Reason: Requested by user
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Scheduler request succeeded
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Message from server: Incomplete request received.
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Resetting project
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM||Rescheduling CPU: exit_tasks
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Detaching from project

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Message 18759 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 3:39:06 UTC

jas, can you login and go to your "General preferences" (click View or Edit), and click "Edit preferences", configure it how you like, and then click "Update preferences"?

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Message 18776 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 8:56:58 UTC

Hi all, since the upgrade of the servers, I had a strange problem. I have 1 computer that has no permanant connection, I just hook it up when it needs work. My problem is that since the upgrade of the servers this computer only downloads enough work for around 24 hours instead of the 72 hours it is supposed to. I have seperate preferences for this PC ( I use the school preferences) and according to the messages tab it is still using the school preferences, but it only downloads 24 hours of work. I have the "Connect to network" option set to 3 days in the school preferences, which used to work fine for me. It is a hassle to have to connect up every day as this PC belongs to my step son who is Autistic and plays war games on the PC as often as possible. I am only able to connect the PC when he is not around.

Is there any fix for this?
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Message 18780 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 9:41:18 UTC - in response to Message ID 18776.

Hi all, since the upgrade of the servers, I had a strange problem. I have 1 computer that has no permanant connection, I just hook it up when it needs work. My problem is that since the upgrade of the servers this computer only downloads enough work for around 24 hours instead of the 72 hours it is supposed to. I have seperate preferences for this PC ( I use the school preferences) and according to the messages tab it is still using the school preferences, but it only downloads 24 hours of work. I have the "Connect to network" option set to 3 days in the school preferences, which used to work fine for me. It is a hassle to have to connect up every day as this PC belongs to my step son who is Autistic and plays war games on the PC as often as possible. I am only able to connect the PC when he is not around.

Is there any fix for this?


Did you change your "target CPU time" recently? What estimate do you have for each WU within BOINC? It might underestimate the completion time so that you in fact have WU for three days.
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Message 18782 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 10:15:51 UTC - in response to Message ID 18780.


Did you change your "target CPU time" recently? What estimate do you have for each WU within BOINC? It might underestimate the completion time so that you in fact have WU for three days.


Thanks for reply tralala. In answer to your question I haven't changed the target CPU time for quite a while. But, as I checked my preferences I noticed that I only have the target CPU time set for 2 hours on my "home" computers whereas my default setting is for 4 hours. This is most likely the cause of the problem. I will continue to monitor the suspect PC and see if changing the default target CPU time has the desired effect.

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Message 18796 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 13:19:30 UTC - in response to Message ID 18759.

These are my current preferences, what do you suggest that I change?

Processor usage
Do work while computer is running on batteries?
(matters only for portable computers) no
Do work while computer is in use? no
Do work only after computer is idle for 3 minutes
Do work only between the hours of (no restriction)
Leave applications in memory while preempted?
(suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no
Switch between applications every
(recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes
On multiprocessors, use at most 0 processors
Use at most 100 percent of CPU time
Disk and memory usage
Use no more than 100 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.001 GB disk space free
Use no more than 50% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 60 seconds
Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory
Network usage
Connect to network about every
(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 0.1 days
Confirm before connecting to Internet?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Disconnect when done?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Maximum download rate: no limit
Maximum upload rate: no limit
Use network only between the hours of
Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction)
Skip image file verification?
Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example).
Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no

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Message 18798 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 14:18:05 UTC - in response to Message ID 18796.
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These are my current preferences, what do you suggest that I change?

Processor usage
Do work while computer is running on batteries?
(matters only for portable computers) no
Do work while computer is in use? no
Do work only after computer is idle for 3 minutes
Do work only between the hours of (no restriction)
Leave applications in memory while preempted?
(suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no
Switch between applications every
(recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes
On multiprocessors, use at most 0 processors should be atleast 1
Use at most 100 percent of CPU time
Disk and memory usage
Use no more than 100 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.001 GB disk space free
Use no more than 50% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 60 seconds
Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory
Network usage
Connect to network about every
(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 0.1 days
Confirm before connecting to Internet?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Disconnect when done?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Maximum download rate: no limit
Maximum upload rate: no limit
Use network only between the hours of
Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction)
Skip image file verification?
Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example).
Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no


Here's mine for comparison:

Processor usage
Do work while computer is running on batteries?
(matters only for portable computers) yes
Do work while computer is in use? yes
Do work only between the hours of (no restriction)
Leave applications in memory while preempted?
(suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') yes
Switch between applications every
(recommended: 60 minutes) 300 minutes
On multiprocessors, use at most 1 processors
Use at most 100 percent of CPU time
Disk and memory usage
Use no more than 400 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) .25 GB disk space free
Use no more than 85% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 600 seconds
Use no more than 100% of total virtual memory
Network usage
Connect to network about every
(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) .5 days
Confirm before connecting to Internet?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Disconnect when done?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Maximum download rate: 200 KB/s
Maximum upload rate: 200 KB/s
Use network only between the hours of
Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction)
Skip image file verification?
Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example).
Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no

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Message 18824 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 20:59:11 UTC

I made the changes to match yours. Tried attaching and received the same error message.
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Message 18828 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 21:47:36 UTC - in response to Message ID 18752.
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It seems to me that the source of the problem is in the blue line below. For some reason the server is either not getting the correct request from your system, or it is not recognizing it. Having said that, based on what you have already tried, I will have to think for a while to make a guess as to what to try next.


6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.4.9 for windows_intelx86
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||libcurl/7.15.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Memory: 1022.09 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Disk: 144.32 GB total, 128.46 GB free
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: not assigned yet; location: home; project prefs: default
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||General prefs: from (last modified 1969-12-31 18:00:00)
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Local control only allowed
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Listening on port 31416
6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||Suspending network activity - user is active
6/15/2006 8:42:17 PM||Fetching configuration file from http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/get_project_config.php
6/15/2006 8:42:17 PM||Resuming network activity
6/15/2006 8:42:18 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
6/15/2006 8:42:18 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work
6/15/2006 8:42:18 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
6/15/2006 8:42:23 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded
6/15/2006 8:42:23 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Incomplete request received.
6/15/2006 8:42:23 PM|SETI@home|No work from project
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Scheduler list download succeeded
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Reason: Requested by user
6/15/2006 8:42:41 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Scheduler request succeeded
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Message from server: Incomplete request received.
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Resetting project
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM||Rescheduling CPU: exit_tasks
6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Detaching from project


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Message 18829 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 22:55:05 UTC

OK. I'll be waiting to hear from you.
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Message 18830 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 22:59:16 UTC

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6/15/2006 8:41:15 PM||General prefs: from (last modified 1969-12-31 18:00:00)

Can you detach from seti at home? and click on the R@h project and click update.

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Message 18832 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 23:37:58 UTC - in response to Message ID 18828.

It seems to me that the source of the problem is in the blue line below. For some reason the server is either not getting the correct request from your system, or it is not recognizing it. Having said that, based on what you have already tried, I will have to think for a while to make a guess as to what to try next.


6/15/2006 8:42:42 PM|http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/|Message from server: Incomplete request received.



Let me take a wild shot in the dark. In the directory where I run Boinc, I have the files sched_request_boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta.xml and sched_reply_boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta.xml. Is the request file what is sent to the server and what it gets back is stuck in the reply file? If so, is it possible the request file is either corrupt or the permissions are wrong (I'm a *nix guy and know those permissions. Windows permissions still mystify me.) or something else is wrong with this file?

My suggestion, unless it's already been done, is to uninstall boinc. This will not remove every file so go to where boinc is installed and delete everything else manually. In Windows that would probably be C:\Program Files\Boinc. Blow away the Boinc folder. Then reinstall Boinc.

Like I said, this is just a wild guess. I could be totally wrong. (Won't be the first time. Just ask my wife!)

Charlie


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Message 18834 - Posted 17 Jun 2006 0:48:08 UTC

What's got me scratching my head is the fact that his "message log" shows an "incomplete request" for both seti and rosetta. He's already attached to seti and is getting NO work, but when trying to attach in the first place to Rosetta he can't. It seems to be something to do with either his network, his Firewall, or Boinc. I'll keep thinking on this.

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Message 18906 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 21:51:40 UTC - in response to Message ID 18780.

Hi all, since the upgrade of the servers, I had a strange problem. I have 1 computer that has no permanant connection, I just hook it up when it needs work. My problem is that since the upgrade of the servers this computer only downloads enough work for around 24 hours instead of the 72 hours it is supposed to. I have seperate preferences for this PC ( I use the school preferences) and according to the messages tab it is still using the school preferences, but it only downloads 24 hours of work. I have the "Connect to network" option set to 3 days in the school preferences, which used to work fine for me. It is a hassle to have to connect up every day as this PC belongs to my step son who is Autistic and plays war games on the PC as often as possible. I am only able to connect the PC when he is not around.

Is there any fix for this?


Did you change your "target CPU time" recently? What estimate do you have for each WU within BOINC? It might underestimate the completion time so that you in fact have WU for three days.


i have rosetta running while i play team fortress, it works fine.

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