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Message 69779 - Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 9:55:34 UTC - in response to Message 69778.  
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Thank you for the reply. Yes, it is a windows machine, and I have tried various core limitations with the same jerky results. I will check out TThrottle. I didn\'t realize there were command line options with the Boinc manager. I will check them out too. I just love the challenge of a good batch file LOL!

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Message 69784 - Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:18:12 UTC

The jerky CPU line is just a fact of life. CPUs don\'t run \"at 70%\", they are either running (100%)... or not (0%). BOINC cycles the tasks on and off to achieve the target usage. In your case you are probably below 100% to ensure available CPU for other work, but many are using this as a heat control mechanism and it works great for that.

As for ensuring available CPU during business hours, BOINC runs at a low priority. It TRIES to run 70% of CPU, it has tasks demanding CPU 70% of the time... but if the machine has something else to do, it will run that and the BOINC tasks will not get the full 70%. The main factor there being to have enough memory to avoid page faults when the primary workload hits.

You can read more about boinccmd in the BOINC wiki here. You might create two configuration files (cc_config.xml) so you have one for day and one for night with the corresponding CPU %. Then have your batch file copy in the one that\'s appropriate, then run boinccmd and tell it to \"--read_cc_config\". It will just keep running, read the new preferences and alter the preferences. You will see the messages indicating new preference settings in the messages tab. So the messages should look just as they do when you set the preferences from the GUI.
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Message 69785 - Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 19:39:25 UTC - in response to Message 69784.  
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Thank you Mod-Sense! I will dig into the .xml files and see what I can do!

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Message 69826 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 21:51:55 UTC - in response to Message 69784.  

Thanks again Mod.Sense, I have it working perfectly now with 2 batch files, and Microsoft Scheduler. It runs 4 cpu\'s at 51% during buisness hours, and 8 cpu\'s at 91% the rest of the time.

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Message 69989 - Posted: 7 Apr 2011, 15:42:54 UTC
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I\'m running a Macbook, and just joined Rosetta yesterday. It turns out that I had a bad battery in the computer, so when I unplugged it - instant shutdown. Now when I try to start the BOINC Manager, it refuses to start and gives an error:
BOINC ownership or permissions are not set properly, please reinstall BOINC.
(Error code -1202)

When I look at the file stderrgui in the BOINC Data directory, there\'s a line at the end saying
Permissions error -1202 at /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/gfx_info

I know that OpenOffice, in similar situations, has refused to let me edit a file I was working on before a crash; when I delete a hidden lock file, it works again. Is there a similar fix that I can make here? If I delete the gfx_info file, will it get rebuilt? Is there anything I can do, short of reinstalling BOINC? If I do need to reinstall BOINC, will it overwrite or abort the tasks I already have downloaded?

Thank you!
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Message 69990 - Posted: 7 Apr 2011, 18:25:36 UTC

You can uninstall and reinstall the BOINC Manager and it will leave your projects and work units in place... but the directory path you mention is specific to Rosetta@home... so I doubt it will resolve the problem.

I would suggest you uninstall BOINC, then delete the BOINC Data directory at the path shown (this will remove all of your attached projects and work units, if you have projects other then Rosetta), then reinstall BOINC and attach to Rosetta@home again, and that should give you a clean slate.
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Message 69991 - Posted: 7 Apr 2011, 20:35:20 UTC - in response to Message 69990.  

Colour me surprised!

As a last-ditch attempt at a fix before re-installing, I tried deleting the file that was giving me a problem, as well as a second that then gave the same error.

BOINC started up perfectly and I\'m working again :) I can even see the Rosetta graphics and everything!

Thank you for the help ^_^
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Message 70483 - Posted: 1 Jun 2011, 17:04:09 UTC

Hello Forum,
I have a general question. There are times that I defrag my hard drive and also run a program called Advanced System Care by IObit Information technology.
This program removes junk files, scans for malware, fixes registry errors, and
defrags my hard drive. I have been using this program for a few years now and it brings up the question. By running this program does it in anyway interfere rosetta@home or any other @home projects ??.
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Message 70567 - Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 7:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 70483.  

Hello Forum,
I have a general question. There are times that I defrag my hard drive and also run a program called Advanced System Care by IObit Information technology.
This program removes junk files, scans for malware, fixes registry errors, and
defrags my hard drive. I have been using this program for a few years now and it brings up the question. By running this program does it in anyway interfere rosetta@home or any other @home projects ??.


Hi

I think no. I use this app. somethimes also, but there wasn\'t any major effect on my running projects.

With regards
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Message 70568 - Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 17:31:17 UTC - in response to Message 70483.  

Hello Forum,
I have a general question. There are times that I defrag my hard drive and also run a program called Advanced System Care by IObit Information technology.
This program removes junk files, scans for malware, fixes registry errors, and
defrags my hard drive. I have been using this program for a few years now and it brings up the question. By running this program does it in anyway interfere rosetta@home or any other @home projects ??.


No. Think of it this way. You use your PC all the time while Rosetta runs. And it doesn\'t interfere with anything! I too run some apps when I\'m away (perfectdisk) and haven\'t had a problem at all.
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Message 70885 - Posted: 3 Aug 2011, 23:04:44 UTC - in response to Message 17973.  

Q: \"To completion\" time is going UP!
A: This is normal. The time gets revised when the progress % is recomputed at the end of each model. So at the end of a model the time to completion will drop. Then during the crunching of the next model it will increase again.


I am new to Rosetta. Got my first WU today.

Time to complete is going up, as noted in the quoted item above. I was already to abort it then decided to come here and read first.

I have been working this WU for about an hour. I think the \"to complete\" was around 5 hours when it started. It seems to have added almost the whole working time to the \"to complete time\" which is now over 6 hours and is steadily going up.

Meanwhile my Seti work units run as you would expect with the \"to complete\" going down. In most cases the \"to complete\" on the seti units go down faster than the elapsed time.

Just let me know that this is normal for Rosetta and I will relax. It just seems very very odd.

Rosetta Mini 3.14

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Running 24X7
Full time internet access
No screen saver
Monitor is off most of the time.


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Message 70890 - Posted: 4 Aug 2011, 4:11:25 UTC

I think it is more interesting to know how long the task(s) have been running. Default a task will run for about 3 hours. If a task is stuck the watchdog will/should abort after an additional 4 hours. If a task is stuck (percentage complete does not increase), stopping and restarting BOINC will sometimes help.
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Message 70892 - Posted: 4 Aug 2011, 4:19:07 UTC - in response to Message 70890.  

I think it is more interesting to know how long the task(s) have been running. Default a task will run for about 3 hours. If a task is stuck the watchdog will/should abort after an additional 4 hours. If a task is stuck (percentage complete does not increase), stopping and restarting BOINC will sometimes help.
I have (had) WUs coming in with a \"time to completion\" at download anywhere from 2h to 10h, possibly depending on the machine they are running.
And then at some point about a couple of month ago, more or less randomly some WU\'s would run fine as usual until anywhere from 1% to 60% completed, they would just \"sit\" and the only thing moving was the \"time to completion\" counter. Had terminated than jobs after +20h for what normally would have been a 4-5h job...

Disabled R@H on three hosts, attached to RALPH@Home on one machine instead (with the WUs that come in few and far between usually running without a hitch for 1.5-2h)...

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Message 70897 - Posted: 4 Aug 2011, 13:17:46 UTC - in response to Message 70885.  
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Q: \"To completion\" time is going UP!
A: This is normal. The time gets revised when the progress % is recomputed at the end of each model. So at the end of a model the time to completion will drop. Then during the crunching of the next model it will increase again.


I am new to Rosetta. Got my first WU today.

Time to complete is going up, as noted in the quoted item above. I was already to abort it then decided to come here and read first.

I have been working this WU for about an hour. I think the \"to complete\" was around 5 hours when it started. It seems to have added almost the whole working time to the \"to complete time\" which is now over 6 hours and is steadily going up.

Meanwhile my Seti work units run as you would expect with the \"to complete\" going down. In most cases the \"to complete\" on the seti units go down faster than the elapsed time.

Just let me know that this is normal for Rosetta and I will relax. It just seems very very odd.

Rosetta Mini 3.14

Intel dual core
Windows 7
Running 24X7
Full time internet access
No screen saver
Monitor is off most of the time.




OK, this WU has gotten 12:40 Elapsed cpu time since it started. The Remaining was around 5 hours when it started. It is now 33+ hours and still going up. And we are only showing 6.706% done which is where it was at 4 hours Elapsed.

I am going to assume this is a bad work unit OR that Rosetta does not work properly on my system.

I will abort the WU.

If the next one does this, I am outa here.


Edit: When I aborted the WU and sent an update request I got a new Rosetta WU. The remaining on this one says 4:17. So I will expect I can complete this one in 8 hours or less.
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Message 71178 - Posted: 1 Sep 2011, 11:25:16 UTC
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NOT a newbie, but all of the references I can find to merging CPU records are rather old, and although there is reference to turning this feature back on some years ago, it does not seem to have happened.

For no reason I can determine, 1 of my 4 hosts keeps ending up reporting 0 points on BOINCstats under \'Host list\'. I let it run its work out, renamed it, restarted it with only 3 projects, Rosetta being one of them. Ran fine for maybe a month, then starts showing 0 points again.

Somehow this CPU is split yet again, and Rosetta is the only one of the 3 that won\'t let me merge the two of them together. It was running Rosetta previously, but there were more projects and I couldn\'t seem to figure out which one was causing the issue.

Is there a way to do this?
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Message 71179 - Posted: 1 Sep 2011, 16:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 71178.  

Now seems to be turned on, we\'ll see if this stays fixed or not. I was able to merge the two CPUs in question. Thanks!


NOT a newbie, but all of the references I can find to merging CPU records are rather old, and although there is reference to turning this feature back on some years ago, it does not seem to have happened.

For no reason I can determine, 1 of my 4 hosts keeps ending up reporting 0 points on BOINCstats under \'Host list\'. I let it run its work out, renamed it, restarted it with only 3 projects, Rosetta being one of them. Ran fine for maybe a month, then starts showing 0 points again.

Somehow this CPU is split yet again, and Rosetta is the only one of the 3 that won\'t let me merge the two of them together. It was running Rosetta previously, but there were more projects and I couldn\'t seem to figure out which one was causing the issue.

Is there a way to do this?


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Message 74905 - Posted: 16 Jan 2013, 3:42:01 UTC

I can see several Work Units on my result page that were sent on January 13 and have a deadline of January 23, their Server State is \'In Progress\' and Client State is \'new\'. I, unfortunately don\'t see any such tasks in my BOINC Manager, is there a way to re-request them ?
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Message 74928 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 14:45:02 UTC

No, the transmission back to your machine issuing those work units must have been interrupted. They will be reissued once the deadline is passed.
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Message 75818 - Posted: 2 Jul 2013, 15:53:41 UTC

Does Rosetta do GPU crunching?

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere

Many thnaks
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Message 75820 - Posted: 2 Jul 2013, 21:21:29 UTC - in response to Message 75818.  

Does Rosetta do GPU crunching?

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere

Many thnaks


NO.....
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